Possible power-ups for Tsunade and Hiruzen

[TheEvilOne]

The manga hints the Hokages are stronger then the other Kages. [

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] Hashirama, Minato and Tobirama are easily stronger then the other Kages, they are top 10 shinobies. But what about Tsunade and Hiruzen? With their current feats, they are the weakest Hokages and they are among the weakest Kages ever, especially Hiruzen.

The gap between the Hokage's power can't be so great. They should be at least as strong as Minato and Tobirama or slightly stronger, considering one of them is a living legend [

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Tsunade's power up - Slug Sage Mode

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According to the manga, Tsunade's nickname is 'Slug Princess'. This refers to her connection with the slugs, but it could also be a hint that she mastered an incomplete/ complete Sage Mode. Kishi portrayed the Sannins as equals. Jiraiya was the 'Toad Sage' of Konohagure, Orochimaru also had some sort of incomplete Sage mode, considering he stored his Senjutsu chakra in Anko's curse mark. [

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According to Kabuto, there are three, EQUALLY FAMOUS places where the sage mode can be mastered. [

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~ Mount Myouboku = toads = toad sage mode = Jiraiya/ Naruto
~ Ryuchidou= snakes = snake/ dragon sage mode = Orochimaru/ Kabuto
~ Shikkotsu Forest [

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] = slug = slug sage mode = Tsunade/ Sakura

So its very likely Kishi foreshadowed Tsunade's future power- up, the Slug Sage Mode. Now you may ask, why she didn't used it against Pain or Madara? The reason is simple: When Pain attacked the village, her primary role was to save as many lives as she can, therefore she didn't fought. She tried to heal everyone instead of attacking Pain.

Against Madara she had no time to activate it. She was busy healing the others and not getting killed. As a medical niinja her main role is to heal and not to fight. But now the situation is different, considering Sakura mastered the Byakugou seal and she can heal the army. Tsunade can now unleash her full power.

Hiruzen's power up -???

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Well this is a tricky one, considering Hiruzen has no special abilities or kekkei genkais. But his intelligence seems to be unparalleled, considering he was the only Hokage who was able to find out how Juubito's ability is working.

Probably he also has a Sage mode. One of his nicknames is the 'Monkey'.

What are your thoughts? And srry for the grammar mistakes.​

 

[OWanime]

yeah I think for tsunade but probably not hiruzen xd

 

[Niwdog]

Hiruzen is meant to be able to use all 5 elements and know how to use all the particularly non-bloodline techs of Konoha, even able to use the smelling technique Kiba uses in Part 1. Surely, you would expect some haxxed combo technique by now. But it looks like Kishi particularly wants to take a big dump on Hiruzen, so you're probably never going to see anything special from him. If you ask me, Tsunade is already OP enough with the Byakugou and practically being unkillable and some of the moves she displayed when fighting Kabuto in Part 1. Considering that she's never been hailed God of Shinobi at any one point, her power level and ability seems adequate. It's Hiruzens that doesn't make any sense. He seems like such a fodder right now. How could someone this weak have ever been hailed as God of Shinobi and the strongest of the 5 Kage in a time when Oonoki was around.

 

[5pace time continuum]

Nope, they're both way past their prime.

Although, we haven't seen a snippet of a young primed Hiruzen...

 

[JasonTheArgonaut]

His nickname is monkey because his name sarutobi saru means monkey

 

[Niwdog]

His nickname is monkey because his name sarutobi saru means monkey

Are you forgetting the fact that his summon is literally a monkey. It's not a far stretch that he went to the monkey place and became a monkey sage lol

 

[JasonTheArgonaut]

Are you forgetting the fact that his summon is literally a monkey. It's not a far stretch that he went to the monkey place and became a monkey sage lol

No its more likley kishi wanted to be funny and gave hime Enma King of the monkey sage's he himself will receive no powerups whatsoever he was is and will forever be useless

 

[Exaar]

I would'n't say hiruzen will get a SM.

I'm betting On Enma getting a slight power up, According to mythology behind Enma He had controll over clouds (or something along those lines). So Cloud release or some form of KKG/Kekkei Tota and he also had about 70 or so different transformations.

 

[MickNerks]

Well, Theres really no doubt in my mind that Hiruzen doesnt have sage mode. Hence him knowing every jutsu that exist in the leaf village, and hashirama had it in the leaf village.

Also, Enma is a badass and showed more impressive feats in part 1 then hiruzen, hashirama, tobirama, and orochimaru combined. So imaging his power-up in part 2 (shippuden).

Many of us have said it multiple times, yet people seem not to believe us. When Hiruzen does decide to enter the fray seriously he's gonna do something OP and everyone will try to ride his bandwagon afterwards. Kishimoto hasnt forgotten anything about his God of Shinobi status, or the hype of all konoha jutsu's that he gave him.

I mean kishi even gave iruka a power-up in the war arc, so its HIGHLY unlikely that he would skip hiruzen.

VERY VERY VERY UNLIKELY.

Patience.​

 

[grizzlyshree]

i dont know why people overanalyse instead of looking in to mangafacts!. Hiruzen isnt underrated. he just hasnt got the timing for his jutsu. when Minato,Tobiraama are taking care of Juubito,hashi is busy with Madara while hiruzen most probably is planning his jutsus to use them efficiently. when two people are fighting Juubito its unwise for Hiruzen to interfere since his jutsus might interfere with the plan or might decrease the efficacy of attack.

this is a possibility.

Well, Theres really no doubt in my mind that Hiruzen doesnt have sage mode. Hence him knowing every jutsu that exist in the leaf village, and hashirama had it in the leaf village.

Also, Enma is a badass and showed more impressive feats in part 1 then hiruzen, hashirama, tobirama, and orochimaru combined. So imaging his power-up in part 2 (shippuden).

Many of us have said it multiple times, yet people seem not to believe us. When Hiruzen does decide to enter the fray seriously he's gonna do something OP and everyone will try to ride his bandwagon afterwards. Kishimoto hasnt forgotten anything about his God of Shinobi status, or the hype of all konoha jutsu's that he gave him.

I mean kishi even gave iruka a power-up in the war arc, so its HIGHLY unlikely that he would skip hiruzen.

VERY VERY VERY UNLIKELY.

Patience.​

thats very much possible too!

 

[Sacrosanct]

Hiruzen will appear next chapter, he's been a let-down so far as was Tobirama until this chapter. Tsunade being a Sage all of a sudden when she didn't use it against Madara? I doubt it; if so then she endangered the lives of her fellow Kage and of many other shinobi by not giving it her all.

Also, the gap in power between the Hokage is that great. It has been stated on more than one occasion that the Gokage are inferior to Hashirama; that he makes them look like nothing. I do believe that Tsunade was a part of that, was she not? In addition, per her own admittance, she is inferior in medical ninjutsu to Hashirama (Madara supports this).

 

[TheEvilOne]

Hiruzen will appear next chapter, he's been a let-down so far as was Tobirama until this chapter. Tsunade being a Sage all of a sudden when she didn't use it against Madara? I doubt it; if so then she endangered the lives of her fellow Kage and of many other shinobi by not giving it her all.

Also, the gap in power between the Hokage is that great. It has been stated on more than one occasion that the Gokage are inferior to Hashirama; that he makes them look like nothing. I do believe that Tsunade was a part of that, was she not? In addition, per her own admittance, she is inferior in medical ninjutsu to Hashirama (Madara supports this).

Did you even read my thread?

 

[Sacrosanct]

Did you even read my thread?

I ignored that, is that the best excuse that you have for her not utilizing it? Mei and A were able to cover for the other three Kage while Tsunade was healing Onoki and Gaara, don't you think the same would have been done for Tsunade if it really could have changed the tide of the battle? Tsunade gave it her all, as did the other members of the Gokage, and were still taken down.

As aforementioned, there is a huge gap between the Hokage.

 

[Stark]

Hiruzen doesn't need any powerups, he is stronger than all the Hokage and is tie with Hashirama as of now.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Hiruzen doesn't need any powerups, he is stronger than all the Hokage and is tie with Hashirama as of now.

Wanking shall be countered with underrating, beware of making comments like this.

 

[TheEvilOne]

I ignored that, is that the best excuse that you have for her not utilizing it? Mei and A were able to cover for the other three Kage while Tsunade was healing Onoki and Gaara, don't you think the same would have been done for Tsunade if it really could have changed the tide of the battle? Tsunade gave it her all, as did the other members of the Gokage, and were still taken down.

As aforementioned, there is a huge gap between the Hokage.

Or it probably takes more time for Tsunade to enter the sage mode. Its speculation, but what I wrote makes sense.

Nope, the gap won't be so huge after Hiruzen and Tsunade shows their hidden powers.

 

[Exaar]

I ignored that, is that the best excuse that you have for her not utilizing it? Mei and A were able to cover for the other three Kage while Tsunade was healing Onoki and Gaara, don't you think the same would have been done for Tsunade if it really could have changed the tide of the battle? Tsunade gave it her all, as did the other members of the Gokage, and were still taken down..

The same reason tsunade failed to summon katsuyu who would of been an incredible help to the kages during their battle.
Simply because it's an important fight, Doesn't mean kishi will make them go balls to the wall.

Same with why Minato used a basic rasengan instead of an Elemental attack when he struck a 14Year old obito.
If his chakra nature if fuuton like naruto's (i think it is anyway), Instead of using Rasengan he could of just split him in half with a basic fuuton/raiton or what ever element he has.

Kishi simply shows what relevant at the time and saves the best for the final fights.

 

[startup97]

Well, Theres really no doubt in my mind that Hiruzen doesnt have sage mode. Hence him knowing every jutsu that exist in the leaf village, and hashirama had it in the leaf village.

Also, Enma is a badass and showed more impressive feats in part 1 then hiruzen, hashirama, tobirama, and orochimaru combined. So imaging his power-up in part 2 (shippuden).

Many of us have said it multiple times, yet people seem not to believe us. When Hiruzen does decide to enter the fray seriously he's gonna do something OP and everyone will try to ride his bandwagon afterwards. Kishimoto hasnt forgotten anything about his God of Shinobi status, or the hype of all konoha jutsu's that he gave him.

I mean kishi even gave iruka a power-up in the war arc, so its HIGHLY unlikely that he would skip hiruzen.

VERY VERY VERY UNLIKELY.

Patience.​

What this guy said!

 

[Dark Artist]

Hurizen deserve a Sage mode

let's call it MONKEY SAGE MODE !

 

[Icelerate]

I don't think Hiruzen can use sage mode because he was revived in an old state where his chakra capacity won't be enough to maintain sage mode. In his prime, he may have had it but he most likely can't use it in his old age.

Tsunade might have sage mode but don't you think such a power up is more likely to be used by Sakura since it was said she'll eventually surpass Tsunade? Furthermore, what makes you sure that it will be Sakura who is healing the alliance and not Tsunade instead?