2nd and 4th's FTG: Not totally the same

[ajpn920]

Recent chapter shows that both Minato and Tobirama uses FTG. They even sync their tech but there's one problem here.We all know how FTG works and they need their mark/seal to be able to use their FTG. While many of you claimed that Minato copied Tobirama's FTG then that means Minato's FTG have the same mark/seal as Tobirama. How can you consider someone copying if his work is not the same as yours?​

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Minato's seal and Tobirama's seal are different. If Minato copied Tobirama's FTG then the seal must be the same because Tobirama's FTG works with his seal and that seal alone. Minato used the same principle as Tobirama's FTG but one thing is clear, they are different!​

Just think this way. If their FTG are the same, then Minato can teleport to where Tobirama's marks are and vice versa but we know that is not possible. Logically speaking, their FTG are different but with the same principle. It further support my theory that both of them are born with the skill capable of using FTG like Onoki capable of learning Jinton from Muu.​

 

[PYROVT]

possible yea i like the idea same principle different execution

 

[Klad]

Minato copied it , but he maybe had developed it somehow , to make it better

 

[Penguin]

Not necessarily. The seal could react to chakra or some weird thing. You are most likely right, but there are always possibilities.

 

[xcoyote]

I agree Tobiramas FTG is original,Minatos is a copy.

 

[-immortal-]

I still think...minato FTG is a littttle..bit betta

 

[Gerkak]

Nice point I think you are right.

 

[Minato fanboy]

Tobirama said it himself that Minato perfected his jutsu

 

[Uzamaki Arlyss]

They have different markings that much is clear.
But what is also clear is that, minato drew inspiration from tobirama's original hiraishin and added his own twist to it.

Same with orochimaru. Advanced tobirama's edo tensei.

So yes it is a form of copy in the sense that they have identical jutsu's, but also fighting style (marking opponents).

Tbh who cares, really. There hardly such a thing as pulling ideas from thin air. Everybody is inspired by something

What more can I say?!! -Sean Carter

 

[ajpn920]

possible yea i like the idea same principle different execution

thanks

They have different markings that much is clear.
But what is also clear is that, minato drew inspiration from tobirama's original hiraishin and added his own twist to it.

Same with orochimaru. Advanced tobirama's edo tensei.

So yes it is a form of copy in the sense that they have identical jutsu's, but also fighting style (marking opponents).

Tbh who cares, really. There hardly such a thing as pulling ideas from thin air. Everybody is inspired by something

I agree on the inspiration thing but calling Minato's FTG a copy of Tobirama's is absurd because the mark alone speaks the truth. A better example is Tobirama's edo tensei. Did Oro create another handseal to this? Did Kabuto create his own handseal? Kabuto made the tech stronger but the handseals in doing ET are the same. Just like RDS. Both Minato and Hiruzen uses the same handseals.

The principle are the same like summoning but we can't say Oro copied Jman or vice versa because both of them can summon. Even in summoning, if i'm not mistaken they are using the same handseals.

Nice point I think you are right.

thanks..

I still think...minato FTG is a littttle..bit betta

absolutely true..

Not necessarily. The seal could react to chakra or some weird thing. You are most likely right, but there are always possibilities.

If FTG only works on the seal then how come they don't have the same seal? If it's so easy to copy seals and if the secret to the tech was written in the scroll then why only two of them can perform FTG.. I think that these guys were born with a skill capable of using FTG.

 

[Sanguis]

A car is still a car no matter what make it is.

 

[Uchiha Aizen]

I'd like to think that minato upgraded the 2nd's FTG

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Actually I'd disagree. The seals have been seen to act and do the exact same things.

1. Seals places on target can be teleported to.

2. They teleport to only things their chakra is on

3. They fused their seals/combined their timing to teleport at the exact same time.


This third point virtually proves their seals are basically the same...just differently shaped. It is virtually...more likely LITERALLY impossible for two people to co-ordinate the exact same thing...at the exact same time. The only time it can be done is when it's been practiced and played out on a time basis (spin at four, and jump at 7). Instead of timing together based on movement..they time together using time.

Minato and Tobirama used the medium of a fusion jutsu of their FYG'S to teleport.

Finally, it was noted one can only teleooet to places containing hid chakra signature/seal so it is already impossible for them to teleport to one another's even if they were the same. It has to be connected to his or her chakra.as a result...even with the same copy it would be impossible.



Having said that...most likely Minato's is written in a way more convenient. It may take less overall chakra and maybe even is written in a way that makes putting it on kunai possible.

 

[ajpn920]

Actually I'd disagree. The seals have been seen to act and do the exact same things.

1. Seals places on target can be teleported to.

2. They teleport to only things their chakra is on

3. They fused their seals/combined their timing to teleport at the exact same time.


This third point virtually proves their seals are basically the same...just differently shaped. It is virtually...more likely LITERALLY impossible for two people to co-ordinate the exact same thing...at the exact same time. The only time it can be done is when it's been practiced and played out on a time basis (spin at four, and jump at 7). Instead of timing together based on movement..they time together using time.

Minato and Tobirama used the medium of a fusion jutsu of their FYG'S to teleort.

Finally, it was noted one can only teleooet to places containing hid chakra signature/seal so it is already impossible for them to teleopo yto one another's even if they were the same. It has to be connected to his or her chakra.as a result...even with the same copy it would

The seals function can be the same but the seals are not. That's why I disagree that Minato copied FTG because if he did then his marking should be the same as Tobirama's. He possibly was inspired by Tobirama.

A car is still a car no matter what make it is.

Then a ninjutsu is still a ninjutsu no matter what! All of the techs are copies from the sage then..good!

Sometimes we have to learn what is something common and what is proper! Hope you get it..

 

[The ProphecY]

Spoiler

Recent chapter shows that both Minato and Tobirama uses FTG. They even sync their tech but there's one problem here.We all know how FTG works and they need their mark/seal to be able to use their FTG. While many of you claimed that Minato copied Tobirama's FTG then that means Minato's FTG have the same mark/seal as Tobirama. How can you consider someone copying if his work is not the same as yours?​

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Minato's seal and Tobirama's seal are different. If Minato copied Tobirama's FTG then the seal must be the same because Tobirama's FTG works with his seal and that seal alone. Minato used the same principle as Tobirama's FTG but one thing is clear, they are different!​

Just think this way. If their FTG are the same, then Minato can teleport to where Tobirama's marks are and vice versa but we know that is not possible. Logically speaking, their FTG are different but with the same principle. It further support my theory that both of them are born with the skill capable of using FTG like Onoki capable of learning Jinton from Muu.​

What surprises me was the fact that the 2nd can mark a person without even him noticing that he was marked with his FTG formula. Not even sharingan, rinnegan byakugan or sensors knew that the mark was already applied. This is very much like Minato's FTG. & we all know that they used their chakra in applying the jutsu. I'm starting to think that 2nd can also transform it's chakra to meet any person type when he transmit it, just like Minato & Naruto as stated by the kyubi itself. If this is the case, then 2nd & the 4th were blood related.

 

[ajpn920]

What surprises me was the fact that the 2nd can mark a person without even him noticing that he was marked with his FTG formula. Not even sharingan, rinnegan byakugan or sensors knew that the mark was already applied. This is very much like Minato's FTG. & we all know that they used their chakra in applying the jutsu. I'm starting to think that 2nd can also transform it's chakra to meet any person type when he transmit it, just like Minato & Naruto as stated by the kyubi itself. If this is the case, then 2nd & the 4th were blood related.

Most likely but haters will hate the idea that Minato is a senju because it will make him more OP..=D

 

[iSpeak]

Lol, this guy still had me as his sig xD. I thought you would have admitted defeat by now. It's ok though.

 

[ajpn920]

Lol, this guy still had me as his sig xD. I thought you would have admitted defeat by now. It's ok though.

LOL. what?? you still believe that? dammm..so hard headed. Just answer this, if there are 100 TBB's from Obito coming at all angles, can kakashi defend that using kamui?

 

[iSpeak]

LOL. what?? you still believe that? dammm..so hard headed. Just answer this, if there are 100 TBB's from Obito coming at all angles, can kakashi defend that using kamui?

Nope, why do you ask?