Madara's clones susanoos?

[accept pain]

Are all clones of susanoo of madara powerful as original?

 

[Shichi]

No clone jutsu cuts the User's charka in half amongst the clones

 

[Gatsuuga]

No clone jutsu cuts the User's charka in half amongst the clones

Well thats not technically true. Sure shadow clones cut the users chakra in half but it doesn't make the techniques half strength. So susano'o would be just as strong, but could only be maintained for half the time.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

I believe so.

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

Well thats not technically true. Sure shadow clones cut the users chakra in half but it doesn't make the techniques half strength. So susano'o would be just as strong, but could only be maintained for half the time.

Yeah im gonna agree with this. It seems that the power they output would be the same given that they have enough chakra to perform the jutsu. to me it seems that they have a limit in terms of stamina not power

 

[Naijakid]

Half chakra; full strength

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Well thats not technically true. Sure shadow clones cut the users chakra in half but it doesn't make the techniques half strength. So susano'o would be just as strong, but could only be maintained for half the time.

No, the power of chakra is spread among clones as well as the amount.

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Susanoo is an embodiment of the users chakra, they aren't as strong as the original.

 

[accept pain]

No, the power of chakra is spread among clones as well as the amount.

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Susanoo is an embodiment of the users chakra, they aren't as strong as the original.

no madara is talking about his body not his technique

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

No, the power of chakra is spread among clones as well as the amount.

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Susanoo is an embodiment of the users chakra, they aren't as strong as the original.

I think your scan proves that you can focus as much energy as you need. honestly i think it can go either way. i think you can put enough energy into a clone to the point where its stronger than you. it all depends on how you divide your chakra

 

[johnny335704]

A clone divides user's chakra in half so the clones are not strong as the original instead original's strength is reduced and become equal to clone's strength.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

I think your scan proves that you can focus as much energy as you need. honestly i think it can go either way. i think you can put enough energy into a clone to the point where its stronger than you. it all depends on how you divide your chakra

I agree but the density of chakra isn't limitless, same as the amount. It's impossible to have a clone that is stronger than the actual body without clones.

 

[Gatsuuga]

No, the power of chakra is spread among clones as well as the amount.

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Susanoo is an embodiment of the users chakra, they aren't as strong as the original.

The manga has never stated that. Take Naruto's pain fight for example. The clones had enough chakra for Naruto to use 2 rasenshurikens - hence rasenshuriken used at least 50% of the sage chakra at the time. Naruto also had at least 2 clones at the frog mountain + the two he used to create rasenshuriken. As the Naruto lost/ dispelled clones his rasenshurikens didn't progressively get stronger - they stayed the same strength.

This proves that as long as someone has enough chakra to complete a technique it won't be any less effective. Clones are only limited by their total charka pool and thus can't use as many high level and because the don't have the amount of chakra required to form the full technique. As long as the clone has the chakra to make a technique then it shouldn't be any less effective. This was even further demonstrated when Naruto hit the 3rd raikage with rasenshuriken. If your clone power scaling thing was true then that rasenshuriken would have been about 1/20 as good as the ones used against pain or kakuzu - but it wasn't.

The only reason Madara's susano'o would be weaker is if making a clone meant that he didn't meet the chakra requirements to form a certain stage. Its not the technique itself thats the problem its the chakra/ stamina.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

The manga has never stated that. Take Naruto's pain fight for example. The clones had enough chakra for Naruto to use 2 rasenshurikens - hence rasenshuriken used at least 50% of the sage chakra at the time. Naruto also had at least 2 clones at the frog mountain + the two he used to create rasenshuriken. As the Naruto lost/ dispelled clones his rasenshurikens didn't progressively get stronger - they stayed the same strength.

This proves that as long as someone has enough chakra to complete a technique it won't be any less effective. Clones are only limited by their total charka pool and thus can't use as many high level and because the don't have the amount of chakra required to form the full technique. As long as the clone has the chakra to make a technique then it shouldn't be any less effective. This was even further demonstrated when Naruto hit the 3rd raikage with rasenshuriken. If your clone power scaling thing was true then that rasenshuriken would have been about 1/20 as good as the ones used against pain or kakuzu - but it wasn't.

The only reason Madara's susano'o would be weaker is if making a clone meant that he didn't meet the chakra requirements to form a certain stage. Its not the technique itself thats the problem its the chakra/ stamina.

The clones were merely storing senjutsu chakra then disappearing so that it could be used by the main body. Not much of Naruto's actual chakra was likely stored within the clones as he was fighting pain. Much less the strength of it.

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Clones only being limited to chakra pool doesn't make much sense either. As you'd be implying that the density of chakra can somehow be spread without losing strength. This doesn't really work as the Susanoo clones themselves prove this wrong. Madara's incomplete Susanoo was able to break through Gaara's sand with Magatama's to hit Onoki's stone golem while it took the strength of 5 Susanoo clones just to break Gaara's guard while he was distracted.

EDIT: Also, you missed another point I was trying to make. Edo Tensei have unlimited chakra, and Hashirama is an Edo. The only way that they can be effected is if the strength of chakra is also spread.