gold is 20x heaver than water and is one of the heaviest elements on earth,a freaking earth wall will do shit against a gold wave that changes the entire landscape. Hiruzen is not dodging anything,his earth wall isnt anywhere as high as the wave,it will come from the top and the sides,from there it is over for hiruzen. Gold is denser than lead,rock isdoing nothing,,it stopped the suiton because eartth is above water in naruto
Those edos were not even 10% in power,i guess you didnt see madara use hashirama's moukton against the kages,one wood dragon would have raped hiruzen,hiruzen beat them using RDS,which killed himself too. Compare hashirama at that time to current hashirama
Nope,bunta himself acknwledged the fact that he would be raped if shukaku got to full power,and that body was a mini clone of the shukaku made by gaara,and the fact that shukaku did not use any sand based powers shows just how weakened it was. In part 2,the kazekage compared the sand attack of current gaara to when gaara lost control and turned into shukaku when gaara was 6 years old.
Bunta nearly broke his body just trying to cut a mini shukaku form,hachibi has had his body cut by kunais,shurikens etc..Kurama is the strongest bijuu,shukaku with his sand wind near unbreakable body beats nearly every other bijuu.
Okay it's obvious that this is not getting anywhere so this'll be my last post no matter how stupid a respond you make to it.
First the Earth-style wall is obviously made of rock, despite the name and the fact that you think it could be beaten by water if it wasn't because of thes Earth > Water thing is just too damn stupid. Sure Gold weights a lot, but rock is a whole lot harder so i'd definetly wouldn't break the wall immediately and Hiruzen was pretty fast even in his old age. He could definetly dodge that wave whether you believe it or not.
And secondly, the most retarded thing you said: THE HOKAGES WHERE AT 10 %!?!? Cmon... I mean really 10 %
You think they could do this at 10 %!?
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Cause if you do you're not only drunk, but you've probably also taken some drugs. Yes Hashirama is incredibly strong and yes a lot stronger than that. But at 10 %?? No way. At 10 % he'd be like Yamato.
Yes Hashirama didn't have his wooddragon, but that's one of his strongest jutsus for gods sake! He'd need at the very least 50 % to do that, most likely 70 %. My honest guess is that those kages where at about 30 to 40 % strength, cause to be honest they were still pulling off jutsus that'd be considered mid-high kage level. And at 10 % there's no way they could do that, not even Hashirama.
About Gamabunta I just read his fight with Shukaku through again to be sure and yes when Gaara falls a sleep it does take some time for the Shukaku to reach full power. But it's still in full jinchuriki transformation and very close to Shukakus full power.
And no, Gamabunta didn't say a single word about it's full power being way too much for him to hande. Sure Gamabunta can't beat full power Shukaku, but from all we know it's not that much stronger than him. Besides, was it said anywhere that the 4th kazekage beat a full power Shukaku? In theory he could have done the same as Naruto and simply woken the beast up.
So conclusion = Beating a rampaging Gaara is not that big a deal.
Gold is not one of the heaviest elements on earth nor laboratory created fused. Density is low-md while if you compare softness and strength it is weak by itself and soft.
The other stuff I leave you and him to debate. Just saying about gold. I love gold.
OMG you guys are so underestimating hiruzen :O It has been said in the manga that he was the strongest kage of his time. That means he is stronger than fourth kazekage. Kishi said it himself!
Gold is not one of the heaviest elements on earth nor laboratory created fused. Density is low-md while if you compare softness and strength it is weak by itself and soft.
The other stuff I leave you and him to debate. Just saying about gold. I love gold.
"Goldhas another distinctive quality,whichis perhaps most important to the prospector (otherthanits value) and that is its weight.Goldis extremely dense, one of the heaviest of all metals. The specific gravity ofgoldis 19.6, meaning that it weighs 19.6 times morethanan equal volume or mass of pure water. Iridium (one of the platinum group metals) is one of few metals that have a higher specific gravitythangold, being 22.6.Goldis around 8 times heavierthanthe quartz rockwhichit is commonly associated with whengoldis found in hardrock form. A single cubic foot ofgoldwill weigh approximately 1187 pounds. It is this quality ofgold, having a superior weight factor over the other materials usually found along with it, that is used in mostgoldrecovery methods."
Okay it's obvious that this is not getting anywhere so this'll be my last post no matter how stupid a respond you make to it.
First the Earth-style wall is obviously made of rock, despite the name and the fact that you think it could be beaten by water if it wasn't because of thes Earth > Water thing is just too damn stupid. Sure Gold weights a lot, but rock is a whole lot harder so i'd definetly wouldn't break the wall immediately and Hiruzen was pretty fast even in his old age. He could definetly dodge that wave whether you believe it or not.
And secondly, the most retarded thing you said: THE HOKAGES WHERE AT 10 %!?!? Cmon... I mean really 10 %
You think they could do this at 10 %!?
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Cause if you do you're not only drunk, but you've probably also taken some drugs. Yes Hashirama is incredibly strong and yes a lot stronger than that. But at 10 %?? No way. At 10 % he'd be like Yamato.
Yes Hashirama didn't have his wooddragon, but that's one of his strongest jutsus for gods sake! He'd need at the very least 50 % to do that, most likely 70 %. My honest guess is that those kages where at about 30 to 40 % strength, cause to be honest they were still pulling off jutsus that'd be considered mid-high kage level. And at 10 % there's no way they could do that, not even Hashirama.
About Gamabunta I just read his fight with Shukaku through again to be sure and yes when Gaara falls a sleep it does take some time for the Shukaku to reach full power. But it's still in full jinchuriki transformation and very close to Shukakus full power.
And no, Gamabunta didn't say a single word about it's full power being way too much for him to hande. Sure Gamabunta can't beat full power Shukaku, but from all we know it's not that much stronger than him. Besides, was it said anywhere that the 4th kazekage beat a full power Shukaku? In theory he could have done the same as Naruto and simply woken the beast up.
So conclusion = Beating a rampaging Gaara is not that big a deal.
you say i am drunk,yet you sprout this BS,yes,earth>water in naruto,in pokemeon it's th other way around.
An earth wall stopping a gold wave is rubbish,especially since the sheer size and density of the wave far outweights the rock wal,and what stops the kazekage from simply twisting the wave around the wall anyway?. How will hiruzen even win?.with shurikens?. He cant dodge a wave tht engulfs the freaking landscape,just stop.
Shukaku didnt use any sand techs,didnt use a tbb,was using the body of a mini clone,it wasnt close to full power,bunta would get raped by any bijuu at full power. The kazekage afaced it when it used these powers and he clearly said he used his gold to stop the shukaku's attacks,also gaara didnt fall asleep to let shukaku out like against bunta,gaara lost control of shuakaku and it came out