Theory~ Madaras' unique tech ~ Theory

[Mitarashi]

DISCLAIMER~ I know this is pretty far fetched, and that you will argue, but I'm not here to please you, I'm just taking a guess.

So, we all know tengai shinsei, right? This beauty.

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Some say it's a rinnegan tech, and I'm not saying that it 100% isn't, I've just been thinking.
Could it be Madara's unique Sharingan tech? Like obito/Kakashi's Kamui, or sasuke's Katon?
let's look at some things.

He's the only one who's been known to use it.

He said after he used it that 'This landscape brings back memories', you can argue that it means dead shinobi, but I'm going to take it that he meant the Huge ass meteor in the ground.

He probably didn't learn such a jutsu ( and master it to a degree that he could summon 2 with such precision ) instantly, and we know he didn't have the rinnegan untill he was far too weak to train this jutsu.

When he used the Mokkuton for the first time, he said 'I just want to try something', implying that he hadn't used it before, but he said no such thing when he used tengai shinsei.

The jutsu requires a double body Susano'o to synchronize handseals with, no-one else has shown this Susano'o, and NO rinnegan tech requires hand seals, where as a few sharingan techs do.

If you're going to say 'Why didn't he use it against hashirama?, then I'd say it's because he was in close range at the time, and he couldn't have avoided it himself, making it useless.

I know this may sound stupid, but it's just what I think.
Please don't just post 'Lolno u r stewpid'

Thanks for reading .

 

[TrollingSage]

with, no-one else has shown this Susano'o, and NO rinnegan tech requires hand seals,

Rinne tensei

The jutsu requires a double body Susano'o to synchronize handseals

Or perhaps Madara used it because he couldn't be bothered to perform all the handseals himself.

 

[Fair Warning]

The only problem is that it would most likely kill Madara too if he used it while alive.


so i'm guessing Kabuto gave it to him

 

[Cooh]

I think he used Susanoo just for swag, seriously not even kidding.

 

[Imperfect]

Nice analysis. I think it's something he came up with in his prime with his Susano'o but never got a chance to use.

We can argue the facts but ultimately lets just mutually respect each other, much nicer that way.

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[Shichi]

Quite possible

 

[RNITBmsage]

dont fap to hard bro
you might break it

 

[Mitarashi]

Rinne tensei
Or perhaps Madara used it because he couldn't be bothered to perform all the handseals himself.

Thanks for point that first bit out, I forgot xD.
I doubt that though, he probably needed too do it, also.
it's the only dojutsu that requires handseals.
( other than the rinne tensi )

Nice analysis. I think it's something he came up with in his prime with his Susano'o but never got a chance to use.

We can argue the facts but ultimately lets just mutually respect each other, much nicer that way.

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I think so aswell, and yea .

I think he used Susanoo just for swag, seriously not even kidding.

Wouldn't even surprise me lol.

The only problem is that it would most likely kill Madara too if he used it while alive.


so i'm guessing Kabuto gave it to him

Maybe, but I'd say he can launch it from a distance, he just didn't need to as an edo.

 

[Touken]

Yeah, no, it's a Rinnegan/Sharingan tech.

It requires Bansho Ten'in and Susanoo to pull it from the upper atmosphere.

Nothing as simple as a Sharingan would create such a technique.

Notice how it's also called 'Heavenly Obstacle Shaking Star' and Shinra Tensei/Bansho Ten'in in English is 'Heavenly Subjugation of the Omnipresent God'/'Heavenly Attraction of All of Creation'.

It's all to do with Heaven and God-like stuff which the Rinnegan represents.

Nagato was called 'Kami' (God) only because of the Rinnegan.

 

[Mitarashi]

Yeah, no, it's a Rinnegan/Sharingan tech.

It requires Bansho Ten'in and Susanoo to pull it from the upper atmosphere.

Nothing as simple as a Sharingan would create such a technique.

Notice how it's also called 'Heavenly Obstacle Shaking Star' and Shinra Tensei/Bansho Ten'in in English is 'Heavenly Subjugation of the Omnipresent God'/'Heavenly Attraction of All of Creation'.

It's all to do with Heaven and God-like stuff which the Rinnegan represents.

Nagato was called 'Kami' (God) only because of the Rinnegan.

You can't say it requires Bansho ten'in, you don't know this.
How'd he learn it on the spot man, and use it so proficiently?

If sharingan can teleport you to another dimension, it can draw a meteor from the sky ( or quite possibly from another dimension, as I doubt it was just sitting there.)

 

[Touken]

You can't say it requires Bansho ten'in, you don't know this.
How'd he learn it on the spot man, and use it so proficiently?

If sharingan can teleport you to another dimension, it can draw a meteor from the sky ( or quite possibly from another dimension, as I doubt it was just sitting there.)

Learn it? Proficiently?

He didn't need to learn anything, all he needed to do was pull it.

There was no proficiency involved, all he did was drop it from the sky.

It's definitely not a Sharingan tech.

You're literally saying he created a meteor through a Sharingan alone; you've not explained how a Meteor could just suddenly appear.

 

[Mitarashi]

Learn it? Proficiently?

He didn't need to learn anything, all he needed to do was pull it.

There was no proficiency involved, all he did was drop it from the sky.

It's definitely not a Sharingan tech.

You're literally saying he created a meteor through a Sharingan alone; you've not explained how a Meteor could just suddenly appear.

Kamui variation, he could have used a kamui variation to warp one from space to the atmosphere, this makes more sense than the rinnegan pulling one from the sky, as there's almost 0 chance 2 were there ready.

You don't just pull it down, that wouldn't require hand signs at all, but opening a portal/dimension without kamui probably would.

 

[Touken]

Kamui variation, he could have used a kamui variation to warp one from space to the atmosphere, this makes more sense than the rinnegan pulling one from the sky, as there's almost 0 chance 2 were there ready.

You don't just pull it down, that wouldn't require hand signs at all, but opening a portal/dimension without kamui probably would.

That seems completely absurd. Why would there be meteors hanging around in a dimension? Have you seen any from Obito's Kamui dimension?

The fact that he used handseals shows that merely using Bansho Ten'in alone wouldn't pull it. It needed to be stronger than the average Bansho Ten'in which is why he used handseals.

There are always meteors in space.

 

[Mitarashi]

That seems completely absurd. Why would there be meteors hanging around in a dimension? Have you seen any from Obito's Kamui dimension?

The fact that he used handseals shows that merely using Bansho Ten'in alone wouldn't pull it. It needed to be stronger than the average Bansho Ten'in which is why he used handseals.

There are always meteors in space.

That are likely to be thousands of miles away, pretty convenient that they were right above him at the time, right?
I didn't say they were in the kamui dimension, just that he could have pulled them through something similar.

 

[Touken]

That are likely to be thousands of miles away, pretty convenient that they were right above him at the time, right?
I didn't say they were in the kamui dimension, just that he could have pulled them through something similar.

We're gonna have to agree to disagree here.

 

[Mitarashi]

We're gonna have to agree to disagree here.

IDK man, unless his 'trump card' is his unique tech, this is it.
The strongest Uchiha of all time, with EMS, has to have a unique jutsu like kamui ect,

 

[Touken]

IDK man, unless his 'trump card' is his unique tech, this is it.
The strongest Uchiha of all time, with EMS, has to have a unique jutsu like kamui ect,

His unique EMS tech is Perfect Susanoo; something that can rival Bijuu.

No other Uchiha will gain this ability, except from, possibly, Sasuke.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Maybe maybe not. We dont have enough info on it so it can go both ways

 

[Mitarashi]

His unique EMS tech is Perfect Susanoo; something that can rival Bijuu.

No other Uchiha will gain this ability, except from, possibly, Sasuke.

Sasuke, Itachi, they both have Susano'o, his is just more powerful because he's a superior shinobi.

I don't know man, and we probably never will, but we can both believe whatever.

 

[Byron123]

I don't think it's a special technique that only he has but rather a technique that he has only reached. What I mean? Tengai tensei has to do with pulling powers exactly like Shinra Tensei and Bansho tennin but in order to use it, you have to have a susanoo. I think that Susanoo acts as vessel through which Madara can use rinnegan's pulling powers to the extent of allowng him to pull meteorites from space to earth. That being said, I believe that Tengai Tensei is not neither sharingan's nor rinnegan's technique but rather a collaboration of both.