The battle of the weakest Kages - who is the strongest weakest Kage?

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Nah, Enma solos Sakura.

iirc you said Katsuyu >>> Enma

 

[TheEvilOne]

iirc you said Katsuyu >>> Enma

Enma kills Foddera before she summons the slug.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Enma kills Foddera before she summons the slug.

wrong!
Sakura had the same speed in the last databook and she improved

 

[TheEvilOne]

wrong!
Sakura had the same speed in the last databook and she improved

Orochimaru had 4, 5 points in speed.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Orochimaru had 4, 5 points in speed.

and then what?

 

[genii96]

Kazekage stomps. Giant shurikens just add to his arsenal.

 

[illidanson]

Easily Hiruzen.

Even in his old age he could probably have beaten the 4th Kazekage and Mei. With high diff, yes, but i'm pretty sure he could.

And even though the hype about his prime is probably an exaggeration, he must have been stronger back then.

And that bit stronger he was back then would easily be enough to take down Tsunade.

 

[genii96]

Easily Hiruzen.

Even in his old age he could probably have beaten the 4th Kazekage and Mei. With high diff, yes, but i'm pretty sure he could.

And even though the hype about his prime is probably an exaggeration, he must have been stronger back then.

And that bit stronger he was back then would easily be enough to take down Tsunade.

so basically hype is all you have to say he wins?,how does old hiryzen beat the kazekage?,dude he gets raped

 

[Penguin]

Kazekage is da strongest.

 

[illidanson]

so basically hype is all you have to say he wins?,how does old hiryzen beat the kazekage?,dude he gets raped

Lol you think the Kazekage can beat him? Dude that guy got stomped by Gaara in a matter of seconds. His sand is not only slower than Gaaras, but he obviously doesn't have the same skill manipulating it as Gaara has. All we've really seen from his was a huge wave of sand and if you don't think Hiruzen can beat that then you must be drunk.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

so basically hype is all you have to say he wins?,how does old hiryzen beat the kazekage?,dude he gets raped

Oro defeated the Kazekage so prime Hiruzen (who shits on Oro as Oro himself admitted) should roflstomp the Kazekage

 

[genii96]

Lol you think the Kazekage can beat him? Dude that guy got stomped by Gaara in a matter of seconds. His sand is not only slower than Gaaras, but he obviously doesn't have the same skill manipulating it as Gaara has. All we've really seen from his was a huge wave of sand and if you don't think Hiruzen can beat that then you must be drunk.

gaara beat him cuz he was forced to defend the other kages too. Hs sand speed is equal to gaara's as seen in their clash,he controls gold,not sand,andhe is a magnet release user,which means those metal shurikens hiruzen uses arre useless,that giant wave of gold shits on hiruzen. He has enough control to best a a bijuu,so he is just fine.

Oro defeated the Kazekage so prime Hiruzen (who shits on Oro as Oro himself admitted) should roflstomp the Kazekage

he was assasinated,it wasnt a fight. And thats ABC logic,and that was part 1 oro,who dindnt spit out 10,000 snakes nor did hydra mode,hiruzen was said to be the strongest hokage too,is that true?.
Prime hiruzen is not a feat-wise character,he is just hype

 

[illidanson]

gaara beat him cuz he was forced to defend the other kages too. Hs sand speed is equal to gaara's as seen in their clash,he controls gold,not sand,andhe is a magnet release user,which means those metal shurikens hiruzen uses arre useless,that giant wave of gold shits on hiruzen. He has enough control to best a a bijuu,so he is just fine.




he was assasinated,it wasnt a fight. And thats ABC logic,and that was part 1 oro,who dindnt spit out 10,000 snakes nor did hydra mode,hiruzen was said to be the strongest hokage too,is that true?.
Prime hiruzen is not a feat-wise character,he is just hype

Alright you just proved my point:

You're most definetly drunk.

No reason to argue with you then.

Btw the Shukaku can hardly be counted as bijuu level... Gamabunta was able to keep up with it for gods sake!!!

 

[genii96]

Alright you just proved my point:

You're most definetly drunk.

No reason to argue with you then.

Btw the Shukaku can hardly be counted as bijuu level... Gamabunta was able to keep up with it for gods sake!!!

how about you tell me how jhiruzen survives the gold wave rather than being blind to fanboyism?. Shukaku isnt bijuu level?,yea,your the one whose drunk. Last time i checked,he wasnt een close to hs full power and was still beating up bunta

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

he was assasinated,it wasnt a fight. And thats ABC logic,and that was part 1 oro,who dindnt spit out 10,000 snakes nor did hydra mode,hiruzen was said to be the strongest hokage too,is that true?.
Prime hiruzen is not a feat-wise character,he is just hype

so is Sakumo he still roflstomps Hinata

also part1 Oro >>> part2 Oro who couldn't use most of his jutsus

 

[genii96]

so is Sakumo he still roflstomps Hinata

also part1 Oro >>> part2 Oro who couldn't use most of his jutsus

part 2 oro without his arms showed more than part 1 oro did. He toyed with a kn4 naruto,smmoned rashomon gates,went hyda mode,summoned 10,000 snakes. The next time he used edo tensei,it was far better than part 1. With these powers he would rape the shit out of old hiruzen without even trying. Part 1 oro just showed a few snake summons,weak ET and his snake like body attacks. Not even comparable. Part 2 oro by far has better feats with his arms sealed.than part 1 oro.
It dosent still change the fact that you used ABC logic.

 

[illidanson]

how about you tell me how jhiruzen survives the gold wave rather than being blind to fanboyism?. Shukaku isnt bijuu level?,yea,your the one whose drunk. Last time i checked,he wasnt een close to hs full power and was still beating up bunta

That's just pathetic... That wave can't do shit to Hiruzen. He'd simply stop the wave with his earth-style wall like he did to Tobiramas suitons wave. And sure gold is harder than water, but it's still one of the softest metals and a lot softer than rock, so there's no way it could take down Hiruzens wall. And before you say it: Yes the wave is bigger than the wall, but Hiruzen would get more than enough time to get out of the way just by blocking some of the wave.

Hiruzen almost managed to take out both previous hokages and Orochimaru in his old age! And yes those edos where weaker than the original, but one of them was Hashirama for gods sake! Even if he was only at 30 % strength i'd still be impressive. Orochimaru would shit on 4th kazekage even without edo.

And who the **** says Shukaku wasn't even close to full power?? It was in full Shukaku form and had full control of itself, what exactly makes you think it wasn't at full strength?? Maybe it was missing a small amount of it's power, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still weak as **** compared to a Tailed Beast like the Eight-Tails or Kurama.

 

[genii96]

That's just pathetic... That wave can't do shit to Hiruzen. He'd simply stop the wave with his earth-style wall like he did to Tobiramas suitons wave. And sure gold is harder than water, but it's still one of the softest metals and a lot softer than rock, so there's no way it could take down Hiruzens wall. And before you say it: Yes the wave is bigger than the wall, but Hiruzen would get more than enough time to get out of the way just by blocking some of the wave.

Hiruzen almost managed to take out both previous hokages and Orochimaru in his old age! And yes those edos where weaker than the original, but one of them was Hashirama for gods sake! Even if he was only at 30 % strength i'd still be impressive. Orochimaru would shit on 4th kazekage even without edo.

And who the **** says Shukaku wasn't even close to full power?? It was in full Shukaku form and had full control of itself, what exactly makes you think it wasn't at full strength?? Maybe it was missing a small amount of it's power, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still weak as **** compared to a Tailed Beast like the Eight-Tails or Kurama.

gold is 20x heaver than water and is one of the heaviest elements on earth,a freaking earth wall will do shit against a gold wave that changes the entire landscape. Hiruzen is not dodging anything,his earth wall isnt anywhere as high as the wave,it will come from the top and the sides,from there it is over for hiruzen. Gold is denser than lead,rock isdoing nothing,,it stopped the suiton because eartth is above water in naruto
Those edos were not even 10% in power,i guess you didnt see madara use hashirama's moukton against the kages,one wood dragon would have raped hiruzen,hiruzen beat them using RDS,which killed himself too. Compare hashirama at that time to current hashirama

Nope,bunta himself acknwledged the fact that he would be raped if shukaku got to full power,and that body was a mini clone of the shukaku made by gaara,and the fact that shukaku did not use any sand based powers shows just how weakened it was. In part 2,the kazekage compared the sand attack of current gaara to when gaara lost control and turned into shukaku when gaara was 6 years old.
Bunta nearly broke his body just trying to cut a mini shukaku form,hachibi has had his body cut by kunais,shurikens etc..Kurama is the strongest bijuu,shukaku with his sand wind near unbreakable body beats nearly every other bijuu.

 

[Zexion~]

Tsunade or 4th Kazekage win

 

[TheEvilOne]

How can Hiruzen have more votes then the Yondaime Kazekage and Tsunade? How he is going to deal with them?? With Kage Shurikens?