Katon are only incoming attacks in the contrary of Chou Mokuton sashiki attack that was spammable, it would only traverse during a certain moment. And Hiashi maintained his kaiten long enough to even protect the alliance against something as spammable as the Chou Mokuton sashiki attack, so i've no doubt that Madara's katon would do nothing especially when we talk about Hiashi's level of rotation. Neji's is fodder in comparison
Hiashi can't beat an Uchiha of that level even if latter uses the 3T Sharingan only. As the greatest Uchiha of all times, Madara is not only blessed with insightful ocular powers, allowing him to predict most Nin- and Taijutsu techniques, see through the most moves what includes Genjutsu and cast powerful illusions, he further is a child of war and spent his whole life battling the strongest clan and others, obtaining a lot of battle experience and skills. His feats in base further contain great Taijutsu (less effective aginst a user of the Byakugan though), formidable speed, massive scaled Katon, great weaponry skills and the further knowledge of Uchiha Kinjutsu. Due to the ability to act within all ranges and cast powerful Genjutsu, Hiashi, despite of having the edge in close combat, will experience inferiority.
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has such a massive scale, that Hiashi will either dodge or outlast it with his rotation. This technique literally swept a part of the alliance together with the ground away and created a stream of flames.
Hiashi can't beat an Uchiha of that level even if latter uses the 3T Shringan only. As the greatest Uchiha of all times, Madara is not only blessed with insightful ocular powers, allowing him to predict most Nin- and Taijutsu techniques, see through the most moves what includes Genjutsu and cast powerful illusions, he further is a child of war and spent his whole life battling the strongest clan and others, obtaining a lot of battle experience and skills.
His feats in base further contain great Taijutsu (less effective aginst a user of the Byakugan though), formidable speed, massive scaled Katon, great weaponry skills and the further knowledge of Uchiha Kinjutsu. Due to the ability to act within all ranges and cast powerful Genjutsu, Hiashi, despite of having the edge in close combat, will experience inferiority.
Ok so basically Madara wins when his long range attacks are meaningless against kaiton, and his genjutsu are used in close range where he is basically inferior to Hiashi, ok... Genjutsu is the only threat here and i only left it to make things more interesting, but Hiashi is Hyuga clan leader, having great knowledge in dojutsu capacities. His Byakugan has even shown to detect killing intent:
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And on the contrary to what you think Hiashi also has long range attacks and powerful even. His
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is on another level than
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It was containing Jubi's tail when we know that it's even bigger than a Bijuu like
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The vacuum technique attack vital points:
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Good luck to Madara to countering him then
Madara's
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has such a massive scale, that Hiashi will either dodge or outlast it with his rotation. This technique literally swept a part of the alliance together with the ground away and created a stream of flames.
Read above. His katon would do nothing to Hiashi's rotation, when he was capable to counter a much more spammable attack like Chou Mokuton sashiki technique that last much more longer than Madara's katons
Hiashi would have to spin for 10 seconds each Katon.
It's not spammable in the sense that it is not a projectile, but the fire lingers so it's pretty much the same thing.
Madara simply uses it again and again and again. He was able to hold Susanoo on the Kyuubi against Hashirama for quite a while, his chakra is gigantic. He can definitely spam that Katon as long as he wants to.
Ok so basically Madara wins when his long range attacks are meaningless against kaiton, and his genjutsu are used in close range where he is basically inferior to Hiashi, ok... Genjutsu is the only threat here and i only left it to make things more interesting, but Hiashi is Hyuga clan leader, having great knowledge in dojutsu capacities. His Byakugan has even shown to detect killing intent:
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And on the contrary to what you think Hiashi also has long range attacks and powerful even. His
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is on another level than
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It was containing Jubi's tail when we know that it's even bigger than a Bijuu like
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The vacuum technique attack vital points:
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Good luck to Madara to countering him then
Read above. His katon would do nothing to Hiashi's rotation, when he was capable to counter a much more spammable attack like Chou Mokuton sashiki technique that last much more longer than Madara's katons
He can actually fight with his eyes closed or covered to prevent all visual Genjutsu btw...
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Not to mention stopping Genjutsu is simple and easy for a hyuga or elite hyugas who have perfect chakra control! Disrupt or stop your chakra flow is how you stop genjutsu. It isnt hard if you know how to control your chakra..
Basically Genjutsu that relies on vision is a non factor! Just my two cents on visual genjutsu and hyugas..
Once again, Katon are only incoming attacks in the contrary of Chou Mokuton sashiki attack that was spammable, it would only traverse during a certain moment.
Look carefully at the pic where Juubi, Madara and Obito launched their attack:
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Look at the bottom particularly. We read the manga from right through left. Bottom right panel we see the group unbalanced(due to Juubi's attack), so at that point, the Katons didn't reach.
Bottom right middle panel, the katons still didn't reach but was close to it. The katons finally reached bottom left middle panel where we see the alliance protected by Naruto's cloak.
And bottom left panel we see Madara and Obito prepared to launch other attacks, that we see on the page later:
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On the same page(bottom), notice that the katons just seems to have traverse the alliance. That means the katons didn't last that long on them. The moment it touched the alliance, it travelled very fast to pass through them. That's the process of katon technique
The katon despite impressive in size is only an incoming attack that travels very fast from one point to another, not a spammable attack like Chou Mokuton sashiki that Hiashi countered during a great while to save the alliance
The vacuum will not be a threat for Madara, seeing that Kisame remained unaffected too [
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]. You should rather insist on what Manga scans display instead of alluding on the Naruto Wikia, which is composed by fans.
Hiashi also didn't outlast that Mokuton technique. He admitted there would be too many [
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] and was later killed as he wasn't able to continue spinning. The rotation is not a constant movement but can only be kept up for a certain moment before the user has to repeat it.
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As you can see, the rotation remains a short time before he repeats it, what Kidomaru used to his advantage. Neji said he couldn't avoid all of these pales as he couldn't spin fast enough. It appears to be the same with that Katon if not worse. This massive scaled Katon creates a continuous stream of flames which will affect Hiashi straightaway after the rotation stopped.
Though these pales where spammed, they still left enough space for one to act and react without continuous defense [
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]. As for Madara's Katon, they needed continuous defense for the whole period of the flames flowing, as any canceling of the cloaks would have affected them immediately. The flame is so massive that it does not only remain for a longer period (than a Hyuga can spin per rotation), the impact itself takes away a humans footing and sweeps him away. It is safe to say that the rotation will not prevent Hiashi from being roasted.
As for the Genjutsus, it is always the same with those who just can't acknowledge their power. It is always said that the respective opponent of an Uchiha is very well aware of the Sharingan, is experienced in some way and a leader or high ranked Shinobi. All this is hype however, a lot of Shinobi already felt for the Sharingan's Genjutsu, whether they were aware or not. The Byakugan also doesn't have sensing abilities in the way you claim (detecting killing intent), it is just that his brother possesses a seal on his head which allowed Hiashi to react by his brother's Byakugan activating, what is counted as killing intend. Hiashi has no counter for Madara's Genjutsu. Even Sharingan user fall for it if they don't possess enough skills to see through it. The more skilled Uchiha however are enabled to see through illusions, but for the reason that their eyes have the explicit ability to do so, not all Doujutsus.
Tell me, how does Madara touch him once he is intangible? Or "Lord Sasuke"? Or what the both of them do to get over Gedou Mazou or 6 jinchuuriki? Or how they beat him now that he is so6p no #2? Lmao. & Base kakashi with no kamui is low kage.
