(DrProof) Orochimaru's Key to Immortality | Kimimaro & Sasuke

[DrProof]

I've configured that Orochimaru's "Key" to Immortality was Kimimaro; so much liability was placed on Kimimaro it's quite interesting. Orochimaru was rather dependent on Kimimaro due to reasons I will connect in the future, Orochimaru wanted Kimimaro's body more so greater than an Uchiha's (a direct Descendant of the Older Brother); Kimimaro Kaguya was indeed his ultimate solvent to Immortality.​

To make the connections within this thread regarding Kimimaro being Orochimaru's "Key" to Immortality you all must read this theory first:

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The Case Of Orochimaru's 3 Year Body Limit Restriction Nullified​

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Orochimaru possesses a unique Kinjutsu in which allows him to take on a host, living inside of their body physically, and spiritually. This grants him Immortality in a sense, but with a drawback; a three year limit:

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I believe that this "drawback" was only given to Orochimaru's Kinjutsu because he never attained a compatible/strong enough host to contain his soul in (Orochimaru is a Sannin after all, it would be unfathomable if he didn't require a host with strong physical/spiritual chakra overall). Take note of his previous containers:

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The first panel regarding the young unknown women was a container in which was used to attack Hiruzen during the first Konoha Attack; her abilities are unknown, overall nothing special, and didn't pertain to either Senju/Uchiha lineage.

The second panel regarding the young man is Gen'yumaru; he was a desperate container due to Orochimaru being in so much pain (due to the execution regarding his Jutsu; his arms were sealed within Shiki Fujin) overall he was a rushed host to suppress Orochimaru's pain for three years; nothing special pertaining to either Senju/Uchiha.

Pay close attention to this quote:

Presumably, if he had a proper container, he could stay in the host for a full lifetime. The fact that he wanted to prepare Sasuke Uchiha and Kimimaro for the transfer before performing it reinforces this.

Sasuke, and Kimimaro; one could say they were the perfect vessels for Orochimaru due to their lineage (yes I said lineage). But why is this? Because they were BOTH descendants of either the Younger Brother (Kimimaro- I will be making a theory behind this very soon), and the Older Brother (Sasuke).

But their bodies weren't just desired for their Kekkei Genkai's it was due to what the Younger/Older Ancestors had passed down genetically; Younger - Phyiscal Energy, and Strong Life Force, Older - Spiritual Energy, and Powerful Chakra:

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The way Orochimaru had targeted Sasuke was clear that his Kinjutsu to stay inside of a host could be maintained for a lifetime, as he wouldn't have gone through so much trouble for it just to rot after three years; to further more strengthen this assumption, Kimimaro commented that Orochimaru needed a newer, STRONGER body (Sasuke), and that immortality didn't necessarily mean his vessel would hold up for the time period. Hence, why he wanted Sasuke's:

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A more interesting fact is why did Orochimaru save Kimimaro of the Kaguya Clan? It wasn't sheer luck that is for sure, I'll leave you with this scan to ponder (Perfect Body; Body Orochimaru most desired):

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With the following pieces being put together, I can very well say that Kimimaro, and Sasuke would have nullified the drawback of Orochimaru's Kinjutsu. Now to move on to Case #2.​

The Case Of Shiki Fujin's Suppression​

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As it seems Orochimaru has discovered the way to temporarily suppress the symptoms of Shiki Fujin (his arms being sealed) through his Kinjutsu; Fushi Tensei:

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The suppression of Shiki Fujin is hinted at due to the scan above. Why exactly? Because Hiruzen during Orochimaru's attempt to crush Konohagakure took away Orochimaru's capability to perform ALL Jutsu:

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During the extraction of his Jutsu, Orochimaru had a bit of a predicament as during the unexpected sealing of his hands, he had already taken over the young unknown women prior to confrontation with Hiruzen:

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In conclusion Orochimaru screwed himself over due to trying to show off his Perfected Kinjutsu to his previous Sensei Hiruzen. Orochimaru never seemed to have disposed of the body prior to his hands being sealed; during his battle with Tsunade, and Jiraiya his hands were a liability, needing Kabuto to summon Manda:

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The above panels represent Kabuto using his blood to sign Orochimaru snake contract for Manda, then summons Manda after the previous events. This proves Orochimaru was still within the body he had his arms sealed in, but not only this, Orochimaru seems to have "showed off" his immortality by revealing the young unknown women's face once again before leaving the battle with Tsunade, and Jiraiya:

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Alright, now let's fast forward a bit (Naruto Shippuden; Part 2), and take a look at how Orochimaru is performing within his new host, Gen'yumaru; the rushed container due to not being able to get Kimimaro, or Sasuke:

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Orochimaru within his new container had temporarily suppressed the sealing effects of Shiki Fujin, as against an Enraged-Kyuubi Naruto, Orochimaru had performed multiple snake-based jutsu with his hands, as well as summoning the Kuchiyose: Sanju Rashomon:

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Thus, proving orochimaru has the capabilities to suppress the sealing of Shiki Fujin for three years within the average container. However, this doesn't prove as to what Orochimaru's key to solve the problem (Shiki Fujin sealing his arms) is, as he expressed that he had a method to do so:

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There are only two options in which Orochimaru could solve what Shiki Fujin had done, and those are:

• Use Kimimaro/Sasuke's body to perfect his Kinjutsu, causing the drawbacks of the three year limitation to be nullified; returning the ability to use his arms once again eternally.
  
  
• Using the reverse seal; Shiki Fujin: Kai to return his sealed arms back to him, allowing him to use Jutsu once again.

Now is it the former (using Kimimaro/Sasuke's body as his solvent), or is it the latter (using the reverse seal; Shiki Fujin: Kai as his solvent)..​

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I want to first acknowledge why Orochimaru's Key to Immortality couldn't have been the latter (Using the reverse seal; Shiki Fujin: Kai); because it was within Part 2, and ways away from when Orochimaru had first admitted he had a method to gain his arms back.

Not only that, but if the latter was the case wouldn't have Orochimaru took the incentive to apply that method sooner, than later? I think so; the former is the method in which Orochimaru was discussing as his solvent.

Thus, Kimimaro/Sasuke were the solvent to Orochimaru's Immortality (The Former).

Edit:

Was going to add a few things, but figured it would be better saved for another thread in which was my final conclusion, so enjoy this once again.​

 

[Klad]

Didn;t read but you're awesome . A theory on that caliber , only you can do it .

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Boy when you get an obsession with a character, you stick to it. Even when it doesn't make sense.

 

[kekerot]

Wow....you are so bored.

 

[DrProof]

Didn;t read but you're awesome . A theory on that caliber , only you can do it .

Thanks man, but you should really read it.

Boy when you get an obsession with a character, you stick to it. Even when it doesn't make sense.

I'm quite sure you didn't read it yet. It all makes perfect sense.

 

[The Necromancer]

I agree for the most part. My question is why did orochimaru wait long enough in the hopes that Sasuke would arrive in time to perform the ritual? End of part1 sasuke was VASTLY inferior to Kimmimaro let alone Orochimaru, so even if sasuke were to arrive on time, he would probably only last 3 standard years as the previous hosts did. So why stall?

 

[HashiramaIsBack]

Awesome.I m just waiting for your theory's so i can read something with good quality.

 

[Shindo]

Very Nice.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Orochimaru should have just taken the body of one compatible with a biju and sealed the Sanbi within himself. Then, he would have so much chakra that he wouldn't even need to worry about taking the body of an Uchiha, and he would just need the eyes.

 

[Fodder#4]

Wow! Nice theory!

 

[DrProof]

I agree for the most part. My question is why did orochimaru wait long enough in the hopes that Sasuke would arrive in time to perform the ritual? End of part1 sasuke was VASTLY inferior to Kimmimaro let alone Orochimaru, so even if sasuke were to arrive on time, he would probably only last 3 standard years as the previous hosts did. So why stall?

More than likely Sasuke's body due to his lineage (The Uchiha - Older Brother) it wouldn't have mattered all that much, seeing as Orochimaru would have possessed a portion of the Sages power in which would have reinforced his Kinjutsu in my opinion.

Kimimaro was the ultimate container, so more so I believe Kimimaro was the superior in this case a fitting host indeed.

Awesome.I m just waiting for your theory's so i can read something with good quality.

Thanks man.

Very Nice.

Thank you.

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Thanks man, but you should really read it.



I'm quite sure you didn't read it yet. It all makes perfect sense.

I did, it actually really doesn't. There is no reason to suggest that gaining either one of their bodies would ensure immortality any differently than any other body. If that was the case then his new Zetsu body would be perfect immortality.

 

[DrProof]

Orochimaru should have just taken the body of one compatible with a biju and sealed the Sanbi within himself. Then, he would have so much chakra that he wouldn't even need to worry about taking the body of an Uchiha, and he would just need the eyes.

Very true. However, I don't think Orochimaru's Kinjutsu itself would allow him to take over a Jinchuriki due to his soul being transferred, once could say that the conjunction of the Jinchuriki, and it's Bijuu would be overwhelming, and push and/or reject Orochimaru's soul during the performed Kinjutsu.

But that's just my opinion.

Wow! Nice theory!

Thanks bro. *_*

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

Great thread bro enjoyed it from start to finish. I always thought kimmimaro was a descendant of the younger son myself for obvious reasons.


just one thing i have a question about.

in the other thread you show us this panel

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"Kimimaro's Kekkei Genkai allows him to control not only the bones within his body, but allows him to control the reforming of destroyed cells. This is similar to that of Tsunade's technique, but without the taxing death toll:"

Now my question is pertaining to the type of cells he is speaking of. it seems to me that he is speaking about bone cells but he is shown to manipulate skin cells also. do you think his keke-genkai can possibly regenerate other organ tissue and cell matter besides skin and bone?

 

[Sacrosanct]

Very true. However, I don't think Orochimaru's Kinjutsu itself would allow him to take over a Jinchuriki due to his soul being transferred, once could say that the conjunction of the Jinchuriki, and it's Bijuu would be overwhelming, and push and/or reject Orochimaru's soul during the performed Kinjutsu.

But that's just my opinion.

He wouldn't take over a jinchuuriki, he would take the body of one compatible with biju (as Gaara was) then seal the biju within himself.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Good Job :I

 

[DrProof]

I did, it actually really doesn't. There is no reason to suggest that gaining either one of their bodies would ensure immortality any differently than any other body. If that was the case then his new Zetsu body would be perfect immortality.

That's exactly what I am saying! The possession of Younger/Older Brother descendants grants his Kinjutsu no drawbacks, giving him perfect Immortality. What more do you not understand? Kimimaro is a descendant of the Younger Son, clans branch off, and new genes, and breeds spring to life, evolution isn't a hard concept to grasp.

Great thread bro enjoyed it from start to finish. I always thought kimmimaro was a descendant of the younger son myself for obvious reasons.


just one thing i have a question about.

in the other thread you show us this panel

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"Kimimaro's Kekkei Genkai allows him to control not only the bones within his body, but allows him to control the reforming of destroyed cells. This is similar to that of Tsunade's technique, but without the taxing death toll:"

Now my question is pertaining to the type of cells he is speaking of. it seems to me that he is speaking about bone cells but he is shown to manipulate skin cells also. do you think his keke-genkai can possibly regenerate other organ tissue and cell matter besides skin and bone?

Thank you. And I doubt it, unfortunately. But he did replace the cells needed in order to fully function his spinal cord, so there may be hope to that possibility.

 

[HiddenSound]

Very nice theory

 

[DrProof]

He wouldn't take over a jinchuuriki, he would take the body of one compatible with biju (as Gaara was) then seal the biju within himself.

I get your concept, but what Bijuu would he seal in himself? I don't recall any roaming currently.

Good Job :I

Very nice theory

Thanks bros *_*

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

That's exactly what I am saying! The possession of Younger/Older Brother descendants grants his Kinjutsu no drawbacks, giving him perfect Immortality. What more do you not understand? Kimimaro is a descendant of the Younger Son, clans branch off, and new genes, and breeds spring to life, evolution isn't a hard concept to grasp.

But you didn't say why. Why would that grant him any more immortality than a normal body, when ALL bodies wither and die.