The 5 Biggest Screw-ups of Konoha

[GodaimeRaikage]

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I've already said. Hiruzen could've easily dedicated time out of his really open schedule to train Sasuke personally, making him feel wanted and special to the Hokage- maybe even making Hiruzen his then-father figure. It's better than just leaving the damn kid alone, that's for sure.

How would have Hiruzen spending time with Sasuke changed anything?what are you not getting?Sasuke had friends, the admiration of every girl in the village, and was praised by all the jonin as a genius.If all that didn't stop him, how was being trained by the hokage going to do it?Orochimaru was trained by the Hiruzen and made to feel special and how did that work out?


What you asre failing to understand is nothing Hiruzen or anyone other could have done would have changed the fact that Sasuke parents were murder along with his rntire clan.Nothing could have changed the fact that Sasuke felt weak because he couldn't stop Itachi.Nothing would have changed the fact that he would have wanted revenge because it's in the DNA of the Uchiha to have strong feelings, whether good or bad depending on the situation.The facts don't support your argument.Sasuke was going to follow the path he did no matter what;and there was nothing anyone could have done about it.

 

[saw2097]

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The whole thing with Oro wasn't really so much a mess up on the villages part, it was Hiruzen's hesitation.

Hiruzen was supposed to kill him then and there but he hesitated because Oro was his student so Oro was able to escape. So they didn't really banish him, he just escaped from his execution.

The Uchiha were not cowards for throwing Madara out, they were just sick and tired of war plus they all seemed to trust Hashirama and he didn't betray that trust, he tried to treat the Uchiha equally with the rest of the village.

But I do agree with the Naruto and Sasuke thing, Hiruzen should have taken steps, he is just lucky that Naruto is so forgiving, otherwise he would have two rogue ninja.

 

[AfricanProdigy]

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Biggest f**k up was making Sasuke wanting the dream of becoming Hokage, because now the Part II Naruto vs. Sasuke fight that we've been waiting months for is now supposed to be some friendly fight over who becomes Hokage...

 

[Stark]

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Itachi is most likely the biggest **** up.

Tobirama was for moving the Uchiha to the outskirts of the village giving them the worst job, law enforcement.

 

[Lightbringer]

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Hashirama leaving Madara alive and trying to make him hokage

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[Nous]

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Letting Orochimaru leave was the Biggest-Mistake imo. That and Minato not letting anyone know of what happened during the Kyūbi Incident.. all it took was a little clone walking to Hiruzen. It's definitely debatable but they could have possibly dealt with the Obito-Threat before it became big.

 

[Silverblade]

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Konoha's Biggest **** up.

#1 - Giving Sakura Haruno a ninja License.

NOW THAT IS THE BIGGEST **** UP.

 

[uchihajaime]

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His hatred would've been built up anyway having parents replace the ones that got killed by his big brother isn't solving anything.I don't know what kind of wacked out person would think putting him up for adoption would solve anything.

Really? In Part 1, Team 7 (especially Naruto) befriends Sasuke. He repeatedly saves them, an act which did not further his revenge. In the Battle of the Valley of the End, Sasuke himself admitted that his bonds with Team 7 had made him reconsider his desire for revenge (coming from Sasuke that is saying a lot), though eventually he did decide on revenge.
By putting him up for adoption, that process of reforming bonds (very important to dealing with grief on such a scale) would have started years earlier. Moreover, one of the themes of Naruto is that loneliness (being such a horrible thing) is one thing that drove Sasuke mad, though it was self-imposed in Sasuke's case. If Sasuke had started the process of reforming bonds earlier, then the probability of him choosing to remain loyal to his new bonds and not focus solely on revenge is increased exponentially.
Also not having child services is wrong on so many levels.

Edit: I'm not arguing Sasuke would have completely given up on his revenge. He would have still wanted revenge. However, if he had made new bonds earlier, he would have been able to prioritize those bonds over his revenge, like he did when he saved Naruto from Haku. Perhaps, he would have waited until making jonin until he requesting a mission where he tracks down and kills Itachi.

 

[uchihajaime]

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I also think the Uchiha Massacre should have been handled better. It seems they considered two options
1. Make peace
2. Kill them all. Danzo wanted to kill an unknowing child like Sasuke too!
Very immoral. They should have been a secret trail or something where the Uchiha actually can defend their position, an option they were not given in the Genocide.

 

[Naijakid]

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Ok kinda true........

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

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Um....great?

 

[Fireplay]

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Fugaku and Mikoto f***** up the worst. Giving birth to Itachi and Sasuke. The former eventually wiped their clan and everybody they cared about while the latter is an emo kid filled with hatred who's been making dumb decisions since day one. Damn you Fugaku and your pene****ion skills, Damn you! Ohh and don't forget Hashi. Letting Madara live and all that ish.

 

[KingHashirama]

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False, it wasn't Konoha's fault that the other retarded ass villages wanted to fight over tailed beasts =]

-Madara /Uchiha clan : The so called "traitors" weren't traitors they were basically people who were captured..not traitors. No clue why you would call them that. Madara was a bad leader... And Konoha is not at fault for his incompetence. Hashirama requested for him to be his right hand man, since everybody wanted Hashirama to be Hokage...


- Orochimaru : Fault of the Hokage, and Danzo the traitor

- Danzo: He was weaker then Tsunade and Naruto.. he had no chance against pain.

- Tsunade was a genius for leaving Naruto on missions. He turned out to be the number 1 Hero of the world now. Leaving Naruto "alone" was a very good decision.. though he was never really left alone =D.

Sasuke was never left alone. Sasuke didn't become a criminal until he joined the Akatsuki. Before he was classified as a shinobi who was captured by Orochimaru.


- Uchiha Genocide , basically the fault of the 2nd Hokage - Danzo and Hiruzen and Minato and the counsel.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

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Fugaku and Mikoto f***** up the worst. Giving birth to Itachi and Sasuke. The former eventually wiped their clan and everybody they cared about while the latter is an emo kid filled with hatred who's been making dumb decisions since day one. Damn you Fugaku and your pene****ion skills, Damn you! Ohh and don't forget Hashi. Letting Madara live and all that ish.

You really can't blame a woman for giving birth and raising a child :')

 

[skay5269]

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i honestly believe the biggest f**k up is Itachi's entire plan involving Sasuke...:nexus:

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

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i honestly believe the biggest f**k up is Itachi's entire plan involving Sasuke...:nexus:

It is. That's his personal mistake though and he admitted to it. I'm thinking more politics and the Leaf village itself.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

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they should have killed every uchiha ....

woah, watch out there danzo shimura

 

[reject101]

Can't really say that konoha is the worst or most evil village out there. The series follows that village and characters from there, so thats mainly all we see. We never get to know whats happened in the others, but going on some things, such as bloody mist village end of acadamy exam, Plus what the sand village did to garaa... just shows the other vilages were as bad, but we never really see or find out much.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Can't really say that konoha is the worst or most evil village out there. The series follows that village and characters from there, so thats mainly all we see. We never get to know whats happened in the others, but going on some things, such as bloody mist village end of acadamy exam, Plus what the sand village did to garaa... just shows the other vilages were as bad, but we never really see or find out much.

They were more blatantly violent and twisted but Konoha has foundation and has unleashing so many of the worlds horrors.