Minato Is Top 5 At Least, Not Counting KCM

[Trollasaur]

deidara, sasori,kaisame and muu are ppl i dont like putting on top ten lists. To me they are more like wildcards. They can beat some but not all of the ppl that are usually in top ten lists. (i.e muu can beat minato but not itachi,yet itachi is now below minato on the top 10 lists)
deidara's nano bombs.
sasori's poison
kisame's waterdome
muu's invisibility.....

they don't have enough feats or usually require too much prep for their op techs.

I don't like putting Minato on top ten lists either, he too is a wild card IMO

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That can't happen tho. Everytime the Edos are summoned they first get revived with their mind intact.. Soo either way Hashirama wouldn't be able to be controlled.

i don't see the difficulty of stuffing a kunai in the back of hashi's head the moment he is summoned. He's even facing away from the user.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I don't like putting Minato on top ten lists either, he too is a wild card IMO

i disagree. his speed and intellect is already tried and true and as more chapters come out we find out more and more about how hax ftg is. On top of that ftg requires little to no preptime. unlike deidara's nano bombs or kisame's waterdome.

And then there is the one touch situation.....

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

he already proved he has complete control over tobirama. The only one that broke out was hashi, and even hashi wouldn't breakout had he turned him into a mindless zombie from the get go.

hiruzen and minato didn't even attempt to break from it(chances are they know they can't)

controlling >>> restraining
try again

 

[BenjerminGaye]

controlling >>> restraining
try again

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[BlackFlame44]

Hidan solo's Minato Midd-High diff..and everyone else who I listed are stronger than Hidan

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[Trollasaur]

i disagree. his speed and intellect is already tried and true and as more chapters come out we find out more and more about how hax ftg is. On top of that ftg requires little to no preptime. unlike deidara's nano bombs or kisame's waterdome.

And then there is the one touch situation.....

Without FTG is a low tier kage, if he fails to hit someone with hit his chances of winning aren't that great, it really depends on who he's fighting. Hell even if he tags someone like Madara or Hashirama he can't do much damage. But they proably can't hit him, it's weird with Minato.

 

[Trollasaur]

i disagree. his speed and intellect is already tried and true and as more chapters come out we find out more and more about how hax ftg is. On top of that ftg requires little to no preptime. unlike deidara's nano bombs or kisame's waterdome.

And then there is the one touch situation.....

Without FTG is a low tier kage, if he fails to hit someone with hit his chances of winning aren't that great, it really depends on who he's fighting. Hell even if he tags someone like Madara or Hashirama he can't do much damage. But they proably can't hit him, it's weird with Minato.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

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Oro's own statement is proof?
nice
then Kabuto is the closest thing to the So6P :snick:

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Oro's own statement is proof?
nice
then Kabuto is the closest thing to the So6P :snick:

and then he proved himself with tobirama(the creator of the jutsu btw) as guinea pig.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

and then he proved himself with tobirama(the creator of the jutsu btw) as guinea pig.

he didn't control Tobirama
he restrained him

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Without FTG is a low tier kage, if he fails to hit someone with hit his chances of winning aren't that great, it really depends on who he's fighting. Hell even if he tags someone like Madara or Hashirama he can't do much damage. But they proably can't hit him, it's weird with Minato.

true. but then thats why he's below the likes of hashi and madara. He doesn't have that much if any large scale techs. But his base rasengan(looks like odama) is strong enough to kill ur average shinobi. look what rasengan did to pain

 

[BenjerminGaye]

he didn't control Tobirama
he restrained him

like i said He proved himself. They have to do what he tells them or he restrains them and turns them into mindless killing machines.

 

[Trollasaur]

true. but then thats why he's below the likes of hashi and madara. He doesn't have that much if any large scale techs. But his base rasengan(looks like odama) is strong enough to kill ur average shinobi. look what rasengan did to pain

Yeah rasengan imo is a one shot move, but it's inconsistent, Kabuto,Obito survived them lol, while Pain literally died from it..

 

[Trollasaur]

true. but then thats why he's below the likes of hashi and madara. He doesn't have that much if any large scale techs. But his base rasengan(looks like odama) is strong enough to kill ur average shinobi. look what rasengan did to pain

Yeah rasengan imo is a one shot move, but it's inconsistent, Kabuto,Obito survived them lol, while Pain literally died from it..

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

like i said He proved himself. They have to do what he tells them or he restrains them and turns them into mindless killing machines.

you still don't have proof that he can do it U_U

 

[BenjerminGaye]

you still don't have proof that he can do it U_U

he already restrained tobirama and while restraining him he can put a talisman in the back of his head(like he did in part 1) and have them do as he wishes.

Now its on you to prove that he cant restrain tobirama, minato, and hiruzen. ill wait.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

he already restrained tobirama and while restraining him he can put a talisman in the back of his head(like he did in part 1) and have them do as he wishes.

Now its on you to prove that he cant restrain tobirama, minato, and hiruzen. ill wait.

if he puts talismans into them they become mindless fodders who can't even beat an old man

 

[BenjerminGaye]

if he puts talismans into them they become mindless fodders who can't even beat an old man

now you can't prove it? lol. GG :bye:

 

[BloodSeed]

Lol no. Deidara, Sasori, Kisame, Kakazu all beat him. Those are just some Akatsuki that do >.>

I think he is top 10 for sure though.

minato top 5 can be argued since we havent seen all of minatos feat, but you as top 5 in trolling a fact