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[VS] Mei, Gaara and Tsunade vs Ay and Onoki

Mei, Gaara and Tsunade vs Ay and Onoki

  • Mei, Gaara and Tsunade

    Votes: 13 50.0%

  • Ay and Onoki

    Votes: 13 50.0%
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iiDarui

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You know, I was with you until I saw this:
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lol bruh, you can smoke as much pot as you want, but

onoki is not only a mid ranged fighter, he's also a fast flier

Tsunade >= gaara
Tsunade > ay
Tsunade < onoki
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That's nonsense. Just because she's slightly stronger doesn't mean her manly ass will win. Let's not forget she's 54 years old. I'm estimating Ei is in his early to mid 40s. She'll exhaust herself way before Ei does.

Lightning Straight = Killing Katsuyu or forcing her to poof away.

Liger Bomb = Tsunade leaving a crater in the ground beneath her.

Ei > Tsunade mid-high diff.
 
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iiDarui said:
You know, I was with you until I saw this:

That's nonsense. Just because she's slightly stronger doesn't mean her manly ass will win. Let's not forget she's 54 years old. I'm estimating Ei is in his early to mid 40s. She'll exhaust herself way before Ei does.

Lightning Straight = Killing Katsuyu or forcing her to poof away.

Liger Bomb = Tsunade leaving a crater in the ground beneath her.

Ei > Tsunade mid-high diff.
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it's weird that you highlight ay but not Gaara. That's the epitome of Ay fanboyism. Everything you said is utter garbage so You clearly think ay is the strongest kage, also. I have nothing to argue with you; I already have to wait for PC to rebute later.
 
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AGoodBoy said:
it's weird that you highlight ay but not Gaara. That's the epitome of Ay fanboyism. Everything you said is utter garbage so You clearly think ay is the strongest kage, also. I have nothing to argue with you; I already have to wait for PC to rebute later.
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I didn't highlight Gaara because I think Tsunade could beat Gaara. There is no strongest Kage really, all though Ei is up there as one of the greatest ever. There's things about Ei that are a disadvantage, like only having Nintaijutsu. Darui is my fanboy character and I'm not afraid to about that, not Ei. Ei is a favorite of mine, but I can admit when he's beaten. Btw, "fanboyism" isn't a word.
 
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AGoodBoy said:
It doesn't matter if he always collects minerals. The fact is, that defence had minerals in it's most compact state, therefore it was far stronger than any other defence of his even the dome during the chunnin exams. Furthermore, he doesn't always have minerals in his sand. Half the time he's using gourd sand which is just pure sand with extra chakra so that it's faster, etc, than other sand. During that battle, shukaku was so thick and so compacted with minerals that kimi just couldn't get right through. Gaara's normal defenses aren't that concentrated with minerals, he only did that one because of kimi's apparent stab attack choice.
And, even then, kimi still
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of it further exemplifying gaara's weakness to stab attacks.

Notice how kimi goes through his normal defence (not auto defence, but a strong defence that had no mineral). Kimi goes in with those spikes on his back taking the lead;
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throughout the manga gaara's sand has effectively blocked Explosive, slash, and crush attacks. His weakness is and always has been piercing attacks and oil. That doesn't mean all piercing attacks work as it has to be a strong enough piercing attack.

Gaara's sand can block a TBB/PS. The reason it literally probably ever won't is because he is incapable of making a large enough and thick enough shield to cover thee blast area. If gaara could make a big enough shield, it could tank those attacks, but they win out only because of sheer scale. It's the same reason shinshuu would beat his sand even though it's just a bunch of punches and he's blocked punches.

Even towards the recent chapters kishi still shows he's a bit weak to piercing considering madara's magatama's were able to make it a bit through his sand even though magatama's only have slight piercing power.
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like i said,gaara's sand defences werent that tough up until the SRA arc,he made it that dnse because he was being faced with kimimaro's strongest bone,and thus he made his strongest shield to counter it,and SRA gaara is a LOT stronger than CE gaara,lee was utterly shocked at gaara's increase in abilities.
Kimimaro went through a few layers becase his bone move was a drilling attack,it didnt just pierce,it actually started to drill,which is a lot more effective than simply trying to pierce,so there is a differencebeteen trying to pierce and drilling through. Kimi had ti drill throuhgh the layers,if he had simply pierced he would not have broken the first layer at all. That actually signifies that gaara isnt weak to piercing attacks.
Kimimaro went through that normal sand wall because of his cs2 transformation,gaara's normal defences kept out kimimaro in base and cs1,when he went cs2,his speed and strength were increased to a point wherehe was able to out smash through the normal defences,however,when kimi smashed gaara,his bones didnt break his sand armour,and the bones were outstreched too. Gaara then used his stronger defences to keep him out. He had to increase his defences to match the offensive increase of his opponent,which he did. When he upped his defences kimimaro failed to break through
madara's magatamas were many,not just one,and that was a single sand wall of normal and,the attacks hit a single spot,some wer blocked,but that same spot was weakened,and the others managed to go through. They went through because the defencive capabilities of that sand wall couldnt match their offencive power. 2 sand walls would have blocked the attack.
No matte r if piercinng or blunt force,if gaara can match it's offencive power with a good enough shield,he would block it.
You said it yourself,not all piercing atacks wil breach it,iut has to be very powerful,,such that gaara cant match it's offencive power. The same goes for a blunt force attack. Only oil or powerful jutsus can breach,whether piericng or blunt force.
The same thing goes for any defence when it comes to physical attacks,if you cant match the offencive power,your defence gets breached.
 
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