The Irony of Neji vs Naruto

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By your logic then the same outed be true of sports teams the great teams in Baseball like the Yankees and in Football the Green Bay Packers by name and tradition should always win their leagues tittles automatically, but they don't do they. A Clan or team can't control personal desire,will and determination that often overcomes natural skill in a contest to win. As your assertion that the Uzumaki are of the Senju Clan is wrong. Why did Madara and Obito need to uses Senju and Uchiha DNA? When you combine both you no longer have an Uchiha nor a Senju but a complete DNA of an Uzumaki. This alone out to tell you that the Senju and Uchiha are water down Uzumaki.
 

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Neji "Losers can't win, I was born in the powerful Hyuuga, therefore I win"

Naruto "Even if I am a loser, Ill win, losers can change their destiny!"

Ironically Naruto actually proved Neji right by winning, because by Neji's logic Naruto should of won due to being of a powerful clan and can become Hokage because he's the son of the 4th Hokage and a Uzumaki(branch Senju Clan).

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The Uzumaki weren't ever shown to be particularly powerful. They had sealing techniques, and that's really it. The only two who really stood out with OP abilities are Naruto, and Nagato.
 

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True, Lee doesn't really have masters that are strong powerhouses except for Gai.

I was actually mentioning about Kurama... He made bonds and boom! Access to insane power.
 

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The Uzumaki weren't ever shown to be particularly powerful. They had sealing techniques, and that's really it. The only two who really stood out with OP abilities are Naruto, and Nagato.

Kushina could hold down the Nine tailed fox with chakra chains. SO6P is probably an Uzumaki, Karin is an Uzumaki.

They can be considered powerful
 

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To be fair he didn't really know any of heritage or destiny
 

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wrong. naruto prove that earned hokage seat via actions and decisions.

Actually, no, the OP is right, even though his thought has been express on this forum milllions of times already.

Kushina could hold down the Nine tailed fox with chakra chains. SO6P is probably an Uzumaki, Karin is an Uzumaki.

They can be considered powerful

Unless you can show a scan that even hints at the Sage being an Uzumaki, your thoery is bull^&*@
 

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I usually hit up the part where he never escaped his destiny of dying for the main branch.
 

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My faves are always getting owned by jins for the sake of plot :(
Characters like Lee and Neji got shit on with all that being 4th's son, child of prophecy and all that bullcrap, honestly people should not Show this manga to their children if they want to show them the value of hardwork.
Neji worked hard too; it is not like he pulled out main family jutsus in one night like Naruto learnt kage bunshin; heck he did everything alone based on his observation and skills. Neji vs Naruto disapproved every Message it wanted to give within itself. Also Neji died for a main family member; good job Kishimoto. İt would look better if he died for Gai, Lee or Tenten; but nooo; he got to be Wasted for crap of a Naruhina moment. Don't even get me started with Lee; 90% of the readers brand him as a "fodder", his teammate died yet he had quarter if a chapter. I won't be surprised if his resolve at the end of manga "i should accept who i âm and start selling ramen". We don't even know how much he progressed because his character is not fitting in Kishi's blatant elitism. İn last chapters panels were spent on characters wanking each other; i bet Lee does not even worth his ink when he can draw wank moments.

Sorry for the rant U_U.
 

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I Thought the irony was Naruto was not going to land a hit on Neji and the one hit Naruto landed Awkwardly ended the match.
 

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I get what your saying.. but i dont think that Neji may have known much about the Uzamki clan. But it is funny that he did say that. But whats funny is that he is a loser from a powerful clan and can suceed all the time.
 

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xD Wording was mur but I see what you are saying.
 

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That was Naruto's point.. you can't cling on to destiny crap, because if your called the savior, then you better start acting like one. Neji was claiming to be of the lower branch, which is there to serve the main branch.. but yet Neji was being all mad against Hinata..

Naruto's original destiny.. what everyone told him is a life of a looser..
 

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The Uzumaki weren't ever shown to be particularly powerful. They had sealing techniques, and that's really it. The only two who really stood out with OP abilities are Naruto, and Nagato.

Not really. The Uzumaki have incredible amount of chakra, which is why they become the jin of the nine tails. Also the post was mainly Naruto's father being one of the most powerful ninja ever. Thus, ruining theme that hard work made Naruto great, since clearly Naruto's genes also made him great.
 

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Kishi contradicting himself in part2.He forgot the whole f@ck your destiny thingy,where is the hardwork pays off shit he was telling us.If you have no relation to the sage you are fodder is what he is teaching us in part 2.
 

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Meiji lost cause he was screwing around plot and kurama I begin memo got up through willpower and knocked Naruto out his fans be screaming bull!
 

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Meh, they say that in alot of manga/anime nowadays and back then..It isn't new :/
 

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Neji "Losers can't win, I was born in the powerful Hyuuga, therefore I win"

Naruto "Even if I am a loser, Ill win, losers can change their destiny!"

Ironically Naruto actually proved Neji right by winning, because by Neji's logic Naruto should of won due to being of a powerful clan and can become Hokage because he's the son of the 4th Hokage and a Uzumaki(branch Senju Clan).

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I've been saying this FOR YEARS! The "Underdog" Naruto becoming Hokage idea has always been BS from day 1, and I found it really obvious by the time Naruto was training Jiraiya and he said he looked like the 4th, which was at the point where it was super obvious that Naruto was the 4th's son.
 
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