Parts of the Naruto Anime that can be considered CANON

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Okay. so I know when it comes to debates and whatnot, people usually perfer to go by the original work. AKA Canon

So my question is, lets say there is a canon episode which has a battle in it for example:

Pain VS 6 tails Naruto

We all know that the Rinnigan allows mastery over the basic chakra elements, but that was never truly detailed in the manga, yet, in the anime, Pain was able to create a huge ocean, and was able to fire blasts of wind.

Also, he was able to use Shinra Tensei for a prolonged period of time, not just for a quick burst. He was also shown gliding through the air and between trees in the forest, almost like he was flying. In the Manga and Anime, he was able to appear hundreds of feet in the air above Konoha.. Can he fly? or did he just manage to actually jump that far? or can he float?

Recently Madara VS Alliance. There was a point where Madara speedblitz the alliance, and when he did, it seemingly created a shockwave as if he broke the sound barrier, knocking several ninja a few feet, speed in which there is no time to react and cant even be seen amongst the average ninja.

Deidara, being able to create humanoid clay to attack, and Kakuzu using a water clone to fight.

6 tails in the anime was able to fire off a barrage of chakra blasts, and even a laserbeam in the anime. Does that mean in a debate, we can use these shown powers in it as well? Seeing how these things happened during a Canon battle. I like to think of it as it being the same fight, but the anime shows parts in the battle that the manga decided to leave out do to timeframe?
are these considered credible when debating?
 

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I think you should pay very close attention to what is happening in the manga. The only things that can be considered canon are the ones that are correctly representing the manga. If it is something that the anime used to make it cooller, increasing the fight, it is anime only, and maybe it shouldn't be considered canon.
 

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Guren was A nice character.

(U know the Orochimaru fangirl with the Crystal KKG)
 

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Also, Madara being able to create huge fireballs simutaneously and having them rain down on the enemy
 

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if it didn't happen in the manga its not canon so those "extra" parts in those fights are just to spice up the battles
deva path can fly
 

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If it didn't happen in the manga, then it's not cannon
 

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I acutally have no problem with the anime, I personally think it should be cannon unless it flat out controdicts or just doesn't fit in the timeline. The anime actually adds a lot of depth
 

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I think you should pay very close attention to what is happening in the manga. The only things that can be considered canon are the ones that are correctly representing the manga. If it is something that the anime used to make it cooller, increasing the fight, it is anime only, and maybe it shouldn't be considered canon.
This though in actuality the things done in the anime that aren't canon are very possible for those to do those things
 

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I acutally have no problem with the anime, I personally think it should be cannon unless it flat out controdicts or just doesn't fit in the timeline. The anime actually adds a lot of depth
i agree with this
 

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I acutally have no problem with the anime, I personally think it should be cannon unless it flat out controdicts or just doesn't fit in the timeline. The anime actually adds a lot of depth

That's right, mini fillers like Temari "Attacks" Madara are almost Cannon, and Guren could be done in the Manga.
 

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Kinda depends on what it is to be honest. Sometimes it's within the realm of possibility so I really don't mind it (especially if they're hyped to be able to use it in the manga). But overall I think the OP should specify when anime feats are allowed. Some anime content gets pretty out of hand.

Deva Path vs. 6 Tails was on a completely different scale in the anime! I'd try to avoid most things that happened in that. I know the NF even gives them new names for that episode >_>
 

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Okay, so If I were to say...

in a battle involving Pain VS etc.

I could say, "Pain can create a huge source of water similar to how Kisame"
Because it does say that Rinnigan allows mastery of all basic chakra elements.
why wouldnt he be able to?

I understand Kakashi not doing firestyle cuz it was NEVER hinted at him being able to.

But Kakuzu using a water clone...could it be possible that his natural element was water? But the extra hearts are what gave him earth, wind, fire and water?

Or waht about if I said, " 6tails can fire multiple chakra blasts" things like that
 

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Okay, so If I were to say...

in a battle involving Pain VS etc.

I could say, "Pain can create a huge source of water similar to how Kisame"
Because it does say that Rinnigan allows mastery of all basic chakra elements.
why wouldnt he be able to?

I understand Kakashi not doing firestyle cuz it was NEVER hinted at him being able to.

But Kakuzu using a water clone...could it be possible that his natural element was water? But the extra hearts are what gave him earth, wind, fire and water?

Or waht about if I said, " 6tails can fire multiple chakra blasts" things like that

I believe every ninja can use every element.
 

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Well it depends on the parts. Like temari hitting Madara should be considered Canon.

But if we considered filler moments as canon then Kiba is top 3 K11
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And 6 tails Naruto has fully automatic laser beams.
 

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You know if anime isn't cannon neither is there voices :cool:
 

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Manga is cannon.

Otherwise Kiba can apparently destroy Rashomon gates.
 

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Okay, so If I were to say...

in a battle involving Pain VS etc.

I could say, "Pain can create a huge source of water similar to how Kisame"
Because it does say that Rinnigan allows mastery of all basic chakra elements.
why wouldnt he be able to?

I understand Kakashi not doing firestyle cuz it was NEVER hinted at him being able to.

But Kakuzu using a water clone...could it be possible that his natural element was water? But the extra hearts are what gave him earth, wind, fire and water?

Or waht about if I said, " 6tails can fire multiple chakra blasts" things like that
A reason behind a lot of conflicts in debates isn't over details like that, but rather people have different styles of debating altogether. And so, they clash. There are really 2 ends to the spectrum.

Some want to stick to concrete evidence, and won't accept anything besides what was seen on panel even if the character said he/she was about to use it.
Others like using character statements as a backbone for their arguments. This is what I prefer because I imagine these fights actually happening inside the Naruto world, actual scenarios taking place. Now the problem with this is that once the legendary "hype" gets involved it becomes really hard to debate with certain characters.

You can't have a good debate if both debaters aren't in sync here, it'll be a big problem. I don't go to VS threads much though so I probably wouldn't know much though...
 

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Well it depends on the parts. Like temari hitting Madara should be considered Canon.

But if we considered filler moments as canon then Kiba is top 3 K11
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And 6 tails Naruto has fully automatic laser beams.

LOL. hey I wouldnt be surprised if Kiba was capable of that after recent chapters with his cerberus form
 

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Well... certain things could actually be covert into debates through logic.

Naruto carries paper bombs in the manga/anime.
Chief Toad can spit oil.

In the anime Chief Toad told Naruto to bring the fire and he'll make the oil. Naruto didn't know a Fire Jutsu, so instead he threw a paper bomb kunai to perform Toad Oil Flame Bomb.

I see no reason why it wouldn't work in the manga.
 

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Its only canon if it doesn't contradict manga IMO
 
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