Uchiha Madara vs Past Gokage

[AGoodBoy]

Madara vs Sandaime Raikage, Minato, Muu, Yondaime Kazekage and Nidaime Mizukage?

I HAVE NO CLUE WHO'D WIN THIS! XD

This would be one epic battle.

Apart from minato and sandaime raikage, current gokage faarrrrrr outshine past gokage.

 

[Zexion~]

Wow you really got Kidgamer banned U_U thats a low blow people .. low blow indeed .

 

[AGoodBoy]

Wow you really got Kidgamer banned U_U thats a low blow people .. low blow indeed .

lmfao, this thread got him banned? How? :leaf: :leaf:

 

[iiDarui]

Apart from minato and sandaime raikage, current gokage faarrrrrr outshine past gokage.

Muu is better than Ohnoki and Nidaime Mizukage is better than Mei Terumi.. >>

 

[Zexion~]

lmfao, this thread got him banned? How? :leaf: :leaf:

Idk last i saw he posted in here .. now he's band , i mean i guess he was sort of aggressive but ive seen far worse that went un-punished

 

[iiDarui]

Wow you really got Kidgamer banned U_U thats a low blow people .. low blow indeed .

Well dang. Wonder errors fault that is...

 

[iiDarui]

Idk last i saw he posted in here .. now he's band , i mean i guess he was sort of aggressive but ive seen far worse that went un-punished

That's really sucks. He was awesome to debate with.

 

[Unorthodox]

Madara shits none of them can touch him in ps so i dont know where the debate is

 

[KidGamer65]

@Zexion: I got banned for something else.

Flower Tree World takes time to initiate. Rewatch the episode when Naruto fought Sandaime Raikage. He's faster than Ei, killed 10k men alone and took on Gyuuki (Hachibi) alone. In the manga, yes it is. Suiton is inferior Raiton. So is Doton and Katon. The only element stronger than Raiton is Fuuton. Look it up.

Actually, the forest spawns rather quickly as noted and shown.

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Tsunade says he created a forest in an instant. While its clear it wasn't a literal instant, her words are proof that its fast.

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The pollen also takes effect quickly.

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They couldn't have been in there for more than 10 seconds before they fell asleep.

It was never stated in the manga that he is faster than Ay, if it was in the anime, then its filler. All Naruto said is that all of the Raikage are fast.

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No, those elements are neutral towards each other, not all weak against Raiton.

The arrows show which elements are strong against each other.

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If he can battl a full Bijuu alone, then he's got no problem with v2 Susano'o. maybe v3. Genjutsu wouldn't work on Edo Tensei victims. So I'm not even sure that Flower Tree World would work on them in the first place.

He used Nukite to take on the Hachibi.

-A wild Bijuu is vastly inferior to a Bijuu inside a Jin.
-Hachibi's tentacles are not more durable than Susanoo, considering Minato was able to sever it with a Kunai.

Nukite isn't getting past a V3 Susanoo, it will lead to him getting snatched up and Genjutsu'd as fighting an intelligent man inside a Susanoo is different from fighting a wild Bijuu.

Where did you get that from? Genjutsu does work on Edos. Otherwise Itachi wouldn't have been able to be put in Koto Amatsukami or Kabuto's Sound Genjutsu.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Well, seeing as he roflstomped prime Muu and Onoki together, that's already one down.

Third Raikage isn't as fast as Lightning Straight, so he's not doing shit to madara either.

Fourth Kazekage is an utter joke.

Trollkage can be a problem because he can potentially make all the edo kage mirages. But, it's undisclosed if a doujutsu can see through trollkages mirages.

 

[iiDarui]

@Zexion: I got banned for something else.


Actually, the forest spawns rather quickly as noted and shown.

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Tsunade says he created a forest in an instant. While its clear it wasn't a literal instant, her words are proof that its fast.

You must be registered for see links

The pollen also takes effect quickly.

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They couldn't have been in there for more than 10 seconds before they fell asleep.

It was never stated in the manga that he is faster than Ay, if it was in the anime, then its filler. All Naruto said is that all of the Raikage are fast.

You must be registered for see links

No, those elements are neutral towards each other, not all weak against Raiton.

The arrows show which elements are strong against each other.

You must be registered for see images

He used Nukite to take on the Hachibi.

-A wild Bijuu is vastly inferior to a Bijuu inside a Jin.
-Hachibi's tentacles are not more durable than Susanoo, considering Minato was able to sever it with a Kunai.

Nukite isn't getting past a V3 Susanoo, it will lead to him getting snatched up and Genjutsu'd as fighting an intelligent man inside a Susanoo is different from fighting a wild Bijuu.

Where did you get that from? Genjutsu does work on Edos. Otherwise Itachi wouldn't have been able to be put in Koto Amatsukami or Kabuto's Sound Genjutsu.

@KG

it would have no effect, but I'm not sure it would put them to sleep. They aren't living breathing being anymore. They're Edo Tensei. It may have different or no effect on them. Idk. Just a theory. You could be right though. But it seems that Madara's only trump card is the Flower World. Since we don't know if it'll have the same effects on the Edo Kage, we can't simply base the match on one jutsu. What if Minato teleported all Edo Kage away from the Flower World? What if the Genjutsu had no effect? My thing is, what are Madara's other trump cards? Susano'o? If that's it, I can see why he constantly lost to Hashirama.

 

[iiDarui]

Well, seeing as he roflstomped prime Muu and Onoki together, that's already one down.

Third Raikage isn't as fast as Lightning Straight, so he's not doing shit to madara either.

Fourth Kazekage is an utter joke.

Trollkage can be a problem because he can potentially make all the edo kage mirages. But, it's undisclosed if a doujutsu can see through trollkages mirages.

Nidaime Mizukage is A key player on this battle, I agree with you on that. One Fingered Hell Stab Assault does an as of damage btw. Muu? Ehhh.... Idk.

 

[KidGamer65]

@KG

it would have no effect, but I'm not sure it would put them to sleep. They aren't living breathing being anymore. They're Edo Tensei. It may have different or no effect on them. Idk. Just a theory. You could be right though. But it seems that Madara's only trump card is the Flower World. Since we don't know if it'll have the same effects on the Edo Kage, we can't simply base the match on one jutsu. What if Minato teleported all Edo Kage away from the Flower World? What if the Genjutsu had no effect? My thing is, what are Madara's other trump cards? Susano'o? If that's it, I can see why he constantly lost to Hashirama.

We have no reason to believe it won't work, and when one jutsu is all that is needed to finish the match, then its not surprising when only one jutsu is mentioned. Mokuton restraining them would end this match after they have been put to sleep as Madara has no way of sealing them.

Minato would need to have Kunai out of the Flower World's range. Which is impossible given that they would be fighting Madara in the immediate area, and the Flower World is miles and miles wide

If Genjutsu and Flower World wouldn't work. (Even though there is no reason to believe Flower World won't work and Genjutsu is proven to work on Edos) Then he still has Perfect Susanoo.

 

[iiDarui]

We have no reason to believe it won't work, and when one jutsu is all that is needed to finish the match, then its not surprising when only one jutsu is mentioned. Mokuton restraining them would end this match after they have been put to sleep as Madara has no way of sealing them.

Minato would need to have Kunai out of the Flower World's range. Which is impossible given that they would be fighting Madara in the immediate area, and the Flower World is miles and miles wide

If Genjutsu and Flower World wouldn't work. (Even though there is no reason to believe Flower World won't work and Genjutsu is proven to work on Edos) Then he still has Perfect Susanoo.

Well said. Minato still has a way to seal, but ehh. It can go either way

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Minato CAN escape from Flower World, due to infinite marks all over the world. However, the other kages cannot. And minato doing this would equal disqualification. Muu also can get away due to his ability of flight. The others get solo'd by that alone.

Yasaka Magatama, any of the Katons, Susano'O spear, etc, they all get warped by Space-Time barrier. Nidaime Mizukage can make potentially make them all mirages. I don't see them having any way to get over Perfect Susano'O. Perfect Susano'O Sword is on the level of TBB, as shown in the Hashirama-Madara fight, so Space-Time barrier might save minato's ass again here, as Minato has warped 2 TBB's in the series with it.

Honestly, this can go either way.

 

[iiDarui]

Minato CAN escape from Flower World, due to infinite marks all over the world. However, the other kages cannot. And minato doing this would equal disqualification. Muu also can get away due to his ability of flight. The others get solo'd by that alone.

Yasaka Magatama, any of the Katons, Susano'O spear, etc, they all get warped by Space-Time barrier. Nidaime Mizukage can make potentially make them all mirages. I don't see them having any way to get over Perfect Susano'O. Perfect Susano'O Sword is on the level of TBB, as shown in the Hashirama-Madara fight, so Space-Time barrier might save minato's ass again here, as Minato has warped 2 TBB's in the series with it.

Honestly, this can go either way.

Agreed. It's not all one sided. It can go either way.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Minato CAN escape from Flower World, due to infinite marks all over the world. However, the other kages cannot. And minato doing this would equal disqualification. Muu also can get away due to his ability of flight. The others get solo'd by that alone.

Yasaka Magatama, any of the Katons, Susano'O spear, etc, they all get warped by Space-Time barrier. Nidaime Mizukage can make potentially make them all mirages. I don't see them having any way to get over Perfect Susano'O. Perfect Susano'O Sword is on the level of TBB, as shown in the Hashirama-Madara fight, so Space-Time barrier might save minato's ass again here, as Minato has warped 2 TBB's in the series with it.

Honestly, this can go either way.

He would run out of chakra if he uses this tactic.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

He would run out of chakra if he uses this tactic.

I don't mean teleporting to all of them. He has a mark in his house, for example. He can tele there, but that'd be disqualification.