[Theory] Cogitation regarding the Juubi, Rinnegan, and the zenith of Naruto and Sasuke's power

[Ahmed1993]

That's just how it will be sadly Kishi took inspiration from DBZ, so odds are the Protagonist will fulfill the Goku role and his rival will fulfill the Vegeta role.

Even the Sasuke Rinnegan theory can't become true , because he is a proud Uchiha , he would never dilute his blood with Senju DNA.

All that i hope is that the elder son Dojutsu will make him more or less Naruto's level.

But how come you say that Kamui is the most hax jutsu ?
Because unless you have the Kyuubi's chakra , it's not that powerful at all ( against other MS jutsu ) , i mean Kakashi shat his pants when he saw Sasuke's final Susanoo.

 

[osba]

Rinne Tensei kills you no matter how much chakra you have :

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that was obito telling madara a lie. he already knew he couldnt revive madara..
unless madara is also in on this "play" of them, i wonder who was playing who in the end..

 

[Gerkak]

Nice thread. I liked it alot especially sasukes time jutsu. I don't want naruto to have rinnegan tho. I would much like to have him unique like sasuke. but all in all great theory.

 

[Transcendence]

Rinne Tensei kills you no matter how much chakra you have :

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This is another controversy. Konan said "at your current chakra levels" to Nagato. It is implied had he been at higher chakra levels he would have survived.

I think the difference is how long the person they are reviving has been dead. Madara has been dead for nearly 30 years. So it will take more to revive him with it whereas Nagato revived a bunch of people who were very recently killed.

Even the Sasuke Rinnegan theory can't become true , because he is a proud Uchiha , he would never dilute his blood with Senju DNA.

All that i hope is that the elder son Dojutsu will make him more or less Naruto's level.

But how come you say that Kamui is the most hax jutsu ?
Because unless you have the Kyuubi's chakra , it's not that powerful at all ( against other MS jutsu ) , i mean Kakashi shat his pants when he saw Sasuke's final Susanoo.

I mean Obito's version. To be fair both are extremely hax, but Obito's is just beyond OP. If you don't have a counter to it you lose. He doesn't need to tank anything because it won't touch him. You get close to him? Absorbed and rotting in the Kamui dimension. He's the human version of a Shinigami.

 

[osba]

did you read my comment? it took me alot of time to make that so i'd like an answer on it ^.^

 

[Ahmed1993]

I mean Obito's version. To be fair both are extremely hax, but Obito's is just beyond OP. If you don't have a counter to it you lose. He doesn't need to tank anything because it won't touch him. You get close to him? Absorbed and rotting in the Kamui dimension. He's the human version of a Shinigami.

Come to think of it , Obito would be invincible with his two eyes O__O

This is another controversy. Konan said "at your current chakra levels" to Nagato. It is implied had he been at higher chakra levels he would have survived.

I think the difference is how long the person they are reviving has been dead. Madara has been dead for nearly 30 years. So it will take more to revive him with it whereas Nagato revived a bunch of people who were very recently killed.

I see , but Madara died between 16 years and 20 years ago in the series.


BTW how could you change your pseudo ?

 

[Transcendence]

Come to think of it , Obito would be invincible with his two eyes O__O



I see , but Madara died between 16 years and 20 years ago in the series.


BTW how could you change your pseudo ?

Exactly. It would be impossible to get close to him and he snipes you from afar. He could spam it with his chakra levels. Madara died when Obito was 13-14. I think you may be correct.

And do you mean my name? I just got premium and you can change it once every day as you please.

did you read my comment? it took me alot of time to make that so i'd like an answer on it ^.^

I did read it. It's a nice observation, but you're using variables that aren't present in Naruto (The numbered variables). Even with that mode him and Sasuke get stomped by Juubito.

 

[osba]

Exactly. It would be impossible to get close to him and he snipes you from afar. He could spam it with his chakra levels. Madara died when Obito was 13-14. I think you may be correct.

And do you mean my name? I just got premium and you can change it once every day as you please.


I did read it. It's a nice observation, but you're using variables that aren't present in Naruto (The numbered variables). Even with that mode him and Sasuke get stomped by Juubito.

wich is why it is a thesis i can't wait untill we get actual numbers for sage mode.. looking at the amount of new sage modes that have popped up it's just a matter of waiting.

 

[Ahmed1993]

And do you mean my name? I just got premium and you can change it once every day as you please.

Ah ok , i see.

 

[Transcendence]

Ah ok , i see.

It's definitely worth it.

 

[olisa]

Excellent mash up, I completely agree, always have.

OT: Could you and Derp do a combined super thread. It'd be awesome and EPIC!

 

[Transcendence]

Excellent mash up, I completely agree, always have.

OT: Could you and Derp do a combined super thread. It'd be awesome and EPIC!

Thank you!

And we definitely could in the future.

 

[olisa]

Just for emphasis; the Juubi could have gone evil (and possibly developed the 9 tomoes) after it set out to eliminate humanity. I believe the Juubi is like Nature, not completely sentient but definitely works towards a goal. In nature's case this goal is to preserve balance (life and death, ecological equilibrium in the healthy existence of prey and predator etc.) and maintain cycles (e.g seasonal cycles). And seeing as how the Juubi is a mass of natural energy one can draw similar conclusions.

So I believe that what happened during the Sage's era was that the constant strife and wars were threatening to destroy this balance and hence the Juubi moved to eliminate this primal threat (humans) leading ultimately to a confrontation with the sage.

 

[Transcendence]

Just for emphasis; the Juubi could have gone evil (and possibly developed the 9 tomoes) after it set out to eliminate humanity. I believe the Juubi is like Nature, not completely sentient but definitely works towards a goal. In nature's case this goal is to preserve balance (life and death, ecological equilibrium in the healthy existence of prey and predator etc.) and maintain cycles (e.g seasonal cycles). And seeing as how the Juubi is a mass of natural energy one can draw similar conclusions.

So I believe that what happened during the Sage's era was that the constant strife and wars were threatening to destroy this balance and hence the Juubi moved to eliminate this primal threat (humans) leading ultimately to a confrontation with the sage.

Yea, I believe that as well. The hatred aspect was it attacking the humans out of defense for nature.

 

[olisa]

Yea, I believe that as well. The hatred aspect was it attacking the humans out of defense for nature.

Precisely and it also explains why the Sage was so obsessed with Peace and went about preaching it; he knows that by achieving world peace both nature and humanity will continue to exist together and the threat of the Juubi's destructive force will be completely eliminated as opposed to just keeping it at bay like he did.

 

[Transcendence]

Precisely and it also explains why the Sage was so obsessed with Peace and went about preaching it; he knows that by achieving world peace both nature and humanity will continue to exist together and the threat of the Juubi's destructive force will be completely eliminated as opposed to just keeping it at bay like he did.

I like your reasoning. Very good explanation.

 

[osba]

Precisely and it also explains why the Sage was so obsessed with Peace and went about preaching it; he knows that by achieving world peace both nature and humanity will continue to exist together and the threat of the Juubi's destructive force will be completely eliminated as opposed to just keeping it at bay like he did.

nice nice! and if it's like that, then this "allied shinobi force" might actually change it's vieuw on humanity..
maybe they already have!

 

[olisa]

I like your reasoning. Very good explanation.

It's all thanks to your OP, did I mention how good this thread was? Great work!

 

[olisa]

nice nice! and if it's like that, then this "allied shinobi force" might actually change it's vieuw on humanity..
maybe they already have!

Yep, it's already happening, just a few more nudges from Naruto and the Sage's wish will completely come true.

 

[Transcendence]

It's all thanks to your OP, did I mention how good this thread was? Great work!

Thank you!