Hebi Sasuke Vs Kakuzu

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I don't see how it can be anything but that. Sasuke has probably 6 chidori at best. Between wind mask countering him, hearts flying around, and kakuzu keeping him in mid range with threads, sasuke's never destroying a heart. Infact, sasuke has to first find where the heart is. Kakashi only destroyed the water mask because he aimed for the usual spot where a normal heart lies. That means, sasuke can destroy the water mask at best, after which he has to know exactly where the other masks are, if they're still in him. If kakuzu goes earth grudge, it's just over for sasuke.

But, let's continue listening to community46's sig worthy comments. I'm laughing proper hard irl

Hes yet to post a good argument my man



its a mid diff fight at best

OP:Kakuzu wins Mid diff

Sasuke's chidori variants are not getting him the win here.. Yes they can get past Domu , But their all countered by Wind Style, Not to mention unless they hit the direct heart their not affecting Kakuzu, Fire+Wind style finishes the fight, or ripping out his heart with threads quick enough to catch Kakashi off guard

Argh, I'm not bothered to debate with you guys man, lol. All I'm saying is, this isn't a stomp. If you want some long ass explanation from me, you'll have to forget it xd
 

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.... I might just photoshop something like that, for the lols.

OT: Ehh, I think Kakuzu can win more times then naught. But a certain someone did make a good case for Sasuke in another thread.

You're talking about prince charles? I didn't read his comments, but i'm assuming they involved mei also in some way.
 

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You're talking about prince charles? I didn't read his comments, but i'm assuming they involved mei also in some way.

Indeed, Mei was surprisingly useful in that battle. Most people, I would too, woulda written her off as a non factor at first. I feel.
 

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He was going to use it but Oro stopped him, meaning he can.

Show me a scan of Kirin being activated without prep time against Team 7. Exactly you can't because all Sasuke did was raise his hand within the air, we have seen nothing to think otherwise. But wait, I'll entertain that "what if":

Okay, Sasuke is in the act of using Kirin, Kakuzu has deployed his hearts to go aerial:

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Kirin is then guided, and aimed at Kakuzu killing him, and the heart in which is/was present inside of him. Now this is what happens:

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The masks act on their own free will similar to that of Kisame's symbiotic partner Samehada. Once Kakuzu is down, the mask(s) would rush to his aid hastily (yes they are indeed quick):

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As you can see they've just emerged from the smoke in which Choji caused via expansion jutsu + slamming his hands downward on the mask(s). Thus, rushing to Kakuzu's aid isn't a problem. So what's your next argument?
 

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Goruyka + zukkoku should be enough to fuel Kirin and enhance the jutsu. Furthermore, I have already provided a scan where he was going to use it without preparation time so your argument is invalid
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So sasuke says that all he's doing is guiding lightning, but you're saying he can make lightning? Boy, why didn't you tell me you knew more about sasuke's jutsu than him? Now i feel embarassed.

Argh, I'm not bothered to debate with you guys man, lol. All I'm saying is, this isn't a stomp. If you want some long ass explanation from me, you'll have to forget it xd
It's alright. that'd require a lengthy ass rebuttal from me which i'm not in the mood for atm. I'm just online for the lols atm. I don't know about stomp, i don't think i ever said it was stomp, but kakuzu should win this min-mid. There isn't anything that should take this into high- extreme territory lol
 

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Indeed, Mei was surprisingly useful in that battle. Most people, I would too, woulda written her off as a non factor at first. I feel.

Mei can solo Kakuzu imo if she can just get rid of domu. Mei is underrated. For me, I'd have argued sasuke's use as just to bring down domu, while mei does the brunt of the work. She's an incredibly skilled shinobi considering she was able to overpower someone like madara's katon, and even send a bahemouth like susano'o flying.
 

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.... I might just photoshop something like that, for the lols.

OT: Ehh, I think Kakuzu can win more times then naught. But a certain someone did make a good case for Sasuke in another thread.

That was with Mei, and honestly he did not , he has yet to say how Sasuke even attacks Kakuzu ,

Also to this argument about mei being useful against Madara, she was surrounded by 4 strong Kage ..On her own she is not that strong


@AGOODBOY ,,No mei loses to Kakuzu mid diff .. Id be happy to debate you, her acid mist is blown away, Lava is avoided or possibly (no imo def.) Tanked ..And she gets obliterated by Wind+Fire .. perhaps even destroyed by His raiton
 

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Show me a scan of Kirin being activated without prep time against Team 7. Exactly you can't because all Sasuke did was raise his hand within the air, we have seen nothing to think otherwise. But wait, I'll entertain that "what if":

Okay, Sasuke is in the act of using Kirin, Kakuzu has deployed his hearts to go aerial:

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Kirin is then guided, and aimed at Kakuzu killing him, and the heart in which is/was present inside of him. Now this is what happens:

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The masks act on their own free will similar to that of Kisame's symbiotic partner Samehada. Once Kakuzu is down, the mask(s) would rush to his aid hastily (yes they are indeed quick):

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As you can see they've just emerged from the smoke in which Choji caused via expansion jutsu + slamming his hands downward on the mask(s). Thus, rushing to Kakuzu's aid isn't a problem. So what's your next argument?

Tell me of any jutsu Sasuke used except Kirin that requires lifting his hand in the sky? That's right you can't. This is just too obvious and you would simply be grasping at straws trying to deny this fact.

Kirin was powerful enough obliterate a mountain, are you suggesting that Kakuzu's body is as hard as a mountain? His body will get obliterated, no body = no revival.
 
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Mei can solo Kakuzu imo if she can just get rid of domu. Mei is underrated. For me, I'd have argued sasuke's use as just to bring down domu, while mei does the brunt of the work. She's an incredibly skilled shinobi considering she was able to overpower someone like madara's katon, and even send a bahemouth like susano'o flying.

I'm not too well read up on Mei. I have a loose grasp on her abilities but. . Her usefulness evades me, as a whole. If you say this then I might take a look back at the Gokage versus Madara fight. It has been a while since I read that.

That was with Mei, and honestly he did not , he has yet to say how Sasuke even attacks Kakuzu ,

Also to this argument about mei being useful against Madara, she was surrounded by 4 strong Kage ..On her own she is not that strong


@AGOODBOY ,,No mei loses to Kakuzu mid diff .. Id be happy to debate you, her acid mist is blown away, Lava is avoided or possibly (no imo def.) Tanked ..And she gets obliterated by Wind+Fire .. perhaps even destroyed by His raiton
I said he made a good case! Not that I believed it, or it was a 100% thing, or Kakuzu would lose!

Chill bro!
 

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I'm not too well read up on Mei. I have a loose grasp on her abilities but. . Her usefulness evades me, as a whole. If you say this then I might take a look back at the Gokage versus Madara fight. It has been a while since I read that.


I said he made a good case! Not that I believed it, or it was a 100% thing, or Kakuzu would lose!

Chill bro!

Sorry man .. so much attack's being made upon Kakuzu im a little edgy today U_U
 

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Sorry man .. so much attack's being made upon Kakuzu im a little edgy today U_U

I know, I know! It's been an odd day and I honestly am shocked to find you being one of the few people to defend him XD.

Not fair on you, having to debate like. . On three threads at the same time.
 

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kakuzu is a force to reckoned with fighting him alone is almost impossible to fight him alone sasuke might take him out 2 times or 3(if he's lucky) but all 5 times? no kakuzu gets a a new lightning/fire heart gg
 

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Kakazu takes this Mid diff. :)
 

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The arguments for kakuzu arent even worth destroying. Sasuke takes this high diff at best like I said.
 

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That was with Mei, and honestly he did not , he has yet to say how Sasuke even attacks Kakuzu ,

Also to this argument about mei being useful against Madara, she was surrounded by 4 strong Kage ..On her own she is not that strong


@AGOODBOY ,,No mei loses to Kakuzu mid diff .. Id be happy to debate you, her acid mist is blown away, Lava is avoided or possibly (no imo def.) Tanked ..And she gets obliterated by Wind+Fire .. perhaps even destroyed by His raiton

not today or anytime soon. I need more screentime at may. As of now she indeed loses Mid-high diff as i need to speculate a bit to get her a win. I need to see some of her feats like speed and taijutsu for one, or even a databook score. Without that, i can't even defend a claim such as kakuzu blitzes her and rips a heart out. She almost has 0 speed feats lol :/

I'm not too well read up on Mei. I have a loose grasp on her abilities but. . Her usefulness evades me, as a whole. If you say this then I might take a look back at the Gokage versus Madara fight. It has been a while since I read that.
It won't be that simple, you'd need to dig deeper and extrapulate.
She has 2 kkg and can use earth, fire and water. Yamato said that kkg users are highly skilled in the individual elements that make up their kkg.

Her lava, and mist are also extremely powerful and extremely over looked. Her mist alone is able to create a constant area of corrosion where only she can fight and her lava can create solid objects for encasement/defence. Only long ranged fighters would even be able to fight her simply because of this one ability.

Follow this up with her hidden mist which zabuza has shown us could be dense enough to blind. Being blind in entire area of corrosion against an opponent with large scale Aoe attacks is deadly.

We also know that she uses few to no (acid mist, lava) hand seals for her jutsu. she's even able to effortlessly switch from one jutsu to the next without delay as shown when she switched from waterspot to dragonflood.

All of this together provides a prospective titan. She has the potential of becoming the most powerful kage(current - as hashi levels would be a stretch) if only kishi wills it.

That's a quick overview and i might have missed some stuff. I started to get sidetracked.

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The arguments for kakuzu arent even worth destroying. Sasuke takes this high diff at best like I said.
Problem is there's been no real arguements yet, only a troll spouting kirin kirin kirin.
 
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I know, I know! It's been an odd day and I honestly am shocked to find you being one of the few people to defend him XD.

Not fair on you, having to debate like. . On three threads at the same time.

^another reason why your one of my favs on here bro XD .. ya it does reduce the quality i am producing .. Not many people understand Kakuzu now that NK,AC and Gwembaba are gone .. Just me and Proof really
 

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not today or anytime soon. I need more screentime at may. As of now she indeed loses Mid-high diff as i need to speculate a bit to get her a win. I need to see some of her feats like speed and taijutsu for one, or even a databook score. Without that, i can't even defend a claim such as kakuzu blitzes her and rips a heart out. She almost has 0 speed feats lol :/


It won't be that simple, you'd need to dig deeper and extrapulate.
She has 2 kkg and can use earth, fire and water. Yamato said that kkg users are highly skilled in the individual elements that make up their kkg.

Her lava, and mist are also extremely powerful and extremely over looked. Her mist alone is able to create a constant area of corrosion where only she can fight and her lava can create solid objects for encasement/defence. Only long ranged fighters would even be able to fight her simply because of this one ability.

Follow this up with her hidden mist which zabuza has shown us could be dense enough to blind. Being blind in entire area of corrosion against an opponent with large scale Aoe attacks is deadly.

We also know that she uses few to no (acid mist, lava) hand seals for her jutsu. she's even able to effortlessly switch from one jutsu to the next without delay as shown when she switched from waterspot to dragonflood.

All of this together provides a prospective titan. She has the potential of becoming the most powerful kage(current - as hashi levels would be a stretch) if only kishi wills it.

That's a quick overview and i might have missed some stuff. I started to get sidetracked.


True that about the speed feats
 

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^another reason why your one of my favs on here bro XD .. ya it does reduce the quality i am producing .. Not many people understand Kakuzu now that NK,AC and Gwembaba are gone .. Just me and Proof really

AkatsukiChurch left?! What? Why? What?

Mhm, and where IS the good Dr.? Is he, not on or something?

not today or anytime soon. I need more screentime at may. As of now she indeed loses Mid-high diff as i need to speculate a bit to get her a win. I need to see some of her feats like speed and taijutsu for one, or even a databook score. Without that, i can't even defend a claim such as kakuzu blitzes her and rips a heart out. She almost has 0 speed feats lol :/


It won't be that simple, you'd need to dig deeper and extrapulate.
She has 2 kkg and can use earth, fire and water. Yamato said that kkg users are highly skilled in the individual elements that make up their kkg.

Her lava, and mist are also extremely powerful and extremely over looked. Her mist alone is able to create a constant area of corrosion where only she can fight and her lava can create solid objects for encasement/defence. Only long ranged fighters would even be able to fight her simply because of this one ability.

Follow this up with her hidden mist which zabuza has shown us could be dense enough to blind. Being blind in entire area of corrosion against an opponent with large scale Aoe attacks is deadly.

We also know that she uses few to no (acid mist, lava) hand seals for her jutsu. she's even able to effortlessly switch from one jutsu to the next without delay as shown when she switched from waterspot to dragonflood.

All of this together provides a prospective titan. She has the potential of becoming the most powerful kage(current - as hashi levels would be a stretch) if only kishi wills it.

That's a quick overview and i might have missed some stuff. I started to get sidetracked.


Problem is there's been no real arguements yet, only a troll spouting kirin kirin kirin.

Huh. . . Wow! That really is complicated, I guess. . . xD. I'm still just gonna. . Reread the times she fought for a better reference, seems like a good thing ta' do.
 
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Tell me of any jutsu Sasuke used except Kirin that doesn't require lifting his hand in the sky? That's right you can't. This is just too obvious and you would merely be grasping at straws trying to deny this fact.

Kirin was powerful enough obliterate a mountain, are you suggesting that Kakuzu's body is as hard as a mountain? His body will get obliterated, no body = no revival.

I love how you're relying so much on Kirin, when in reality Sasuke wouldn't get the chance to use it. Any other points I need to refute other than: "Kirin > Kakuzu" which is pure blasphemy.

Show me a scan of Kirin obliterating anyone, oh right, you can't. Hey though, let me also entertain that "Kakuzu's body gets obliterated":

Kakuzu's body is that of a Ragdoll's meaning he is made 100% out of tendrils:

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Your only argument is that Kirin obliterates Kakuzu's body, well as it's been shown many times kakuzu's body is strictly tendrils, with hearts implemented, what proof do you have to say that Kakuzu can't reattach himself tendril by tendril similar to how he reattached Hidan's head, or Deidara's arm forming himself once again? After all he is just a threaded ragdoll as I previously stated. It's not just that, an interesting point as well would be this:

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Kakuzu's arm is made strictly of tendrils/threads in which they move on their own, they think on their own, but they don't act on their on. This pieces itself together rather nicely you see because even while Kakuzu is DEAD the tendrils/threads/masks still aid their master:

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Kakuzu would be reconstructed via his tendrils.
 
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