Hidan VS Kimimaro?

[AGoodBoy]

He is slower then part1 Lee, so nope, he won't be able to touch him. Kimimaro cuts his head off before he could react.

How is that ooc.??? Don't be silly kid...

i'm slightly a kimimaro fanboy so i don't really want to defend hidan much, but kimimaro bleeds alot... He rips out bone from his skin, all hidan needs is blood even if it's off the floor. and there's the fact that the unpredictable scythe attack has a high chance of hitting him.

Hidan wins Mid diff imo. Special privelege is gay and pointless, given him 1 tomoe smfh.

 

[Prince Charles]

Hidan shouldnt be underestimated. His taijutsu and reflexes are actually quite considering he able to square off in a CQC with kakashi[

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[TheEvilOne]

i'm slightly a kimimaro fanboy so i don't really want to defend hidan much, but kimimaro bleeds alot... He rips out bone from his skin, all hidan needs is blood even if it's off the floor. and there's the fact that the unpredictable scythe attack has a high chance of hitting him.

Hidan wins Mid diff imo. Special privelege is gay and pointless, given him 1 tomoe smfh.

Very true, but what stops Kimimaro from using the Sawarabi no Mai when he realizes how Hidan's technique is working? Once the ritual circle is destroyed, Hidan has no chance ( or it will be a draw, Kimimaro bleeds out, Hidan will be decapitated/ dismembered/ etc )

 

[ToshiZO]

He is slower then part1 Lee, so nope, he won't be able to touch him. Kimimaro cuts his head off before he could react.

lmao Hidan is superior to part 1 Lee in almost every aspect....Asuma who has the same speed as Kimimaro couldn't even land one hit on Hidan EVEN with the backing of Shikamarus shadow sewing....Hidan also kept up with kakashi or rather pressured him. Kimimaros speed is not an issue.....Hidan's evasive skills / Taijutsu > Kimimaros speed.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Very true, but what stops Kimimaro from using the Sawarabi no Mai when he realizes how Hidan's technique is working? Once the ritual circle is destroyed, Hidan has no chance ( or it will be a draw, Kimimaro bleeds out, Hidan will be decapitated/ dismembered/ etc )

uhh... it'd be too late? By the time he figured out that, he'd have seen the tech. hidan would have stabbed him in the heart by then. Kimimaru most likely can't heal organ damage, just skin damage. Though, there's a high likelihood that kimi can infact heal all damage, in which case there's nothing hidan can do in such a situation, but such a feat has yet to be displayed by kimi.

lmao Hidan is superior to part 1 Lee in almost every aspect....Asuma who has the same speed as Kimimaro couldn't even land one hit on Hidan EVEN with the backing of Shikamarus shadow sewing....Hidan also kept up with kakashi or rather pressured him. Kimimaros speed is not an issue.....Hidan's evasive skills / Taijutsu > Kimimaros speed.

woah, nig, nig woah. Asuma is no where as fast as kimimaru. Kimimaru caught 1st gate lee's foot, people couldn't even see lee move during the chunnin exam.

Kimamaru's Speed, reflexes and taijutsu are way above hidans. Hidan's advantage is unpredictable scythe and randomly spilt blood.

 

[ToshiZO]

woah, nig, nig woah. Asuma is no where as fast as kimimaru. Kimimaru caught 1st gate lee's foot, people couldn't even see lee move during the chunnin exam.

Kimamaru's Speed, reflexes and taijutsu are way above hidans. Hidan's advantage is unpredictable scythe and randomly spilt blood.

haha bro Asuma would have done the same to part 1 Lee.....Both Asuma and Kimimaro have a 4.5 in speed, Kakashi also has a 4.5 in speed. Here is Hidan not only keeping up with those two but in a way dominating.

Hidan matching Asuma's speed head on

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Hidan having to avoid shadow sewing at the same time as fighting Asuma who is faster then him, yet he is the one who ends up landing the hitbecause of his evasion/ unpredictability which you stated.

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fights over before it even started...here is another thing many people forget. Hidan makes his circle Before the fight has even started with his own blood so he doesnt have to do it mid battle...this is key as Kimmimaro is out before he even know what hit him.

Hidan keeping up with Kakashi.

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so yea with his skills even if he is slower than his opponent it isnt much of an advantage. You are right though his unpredictability in his attacks, is one of the things which hand him the victory here. Hidans reflexes are top notch probably even better than Kimimaros, his taijutsu might also be better but at the least it is around the same level...dont know where you get Kimmimaro having these two things waaay above Hidans....

 

[AGoodBoy]

haha bro Asuma would have done the same to part 1 Lee.....Both Asuma and Kimimaro have a 4.5 in speed, Kakashi also has a 4.5 in speed. Here is Hidan not only keeping up with those two but in a way dominating.

Hidan matching Asuma's speed head on

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Hidan having to avoid shadow sewing at the same time as fighting Asuma who is faster then him, yet he is the one who ends up landing the hitbecause of his evasion/ unpredictability which you stated.

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fights over before it even started...here is another thing many people forget. Hidan makes his circle Before the fight has even started with his own blood so he doesnt have to do it mid battle...this is key as Kimmimaro is out before he even know what hit him.

Hidan keeping up with Kakashi.

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so yea with his skills even if he is slower than his opponent it isnt much of an advantage. You are right though his unpredictability in his attacks, is one of the things which hand him the victory here. Hidans reflexes are top notch probably even better than Kimimaros, his taijutsu might also be better but at the least it is around the same level...dont know where you get Kimmimaro having these two things waaay above Hidans....

Part 1 lee is 4 in speed in base. Kimimaro effortlessly caught a kick - nnot dodged, caught, which is much harder - from that lee while he was using the first gate. That's 4 base speed + a speed boost which far exceed anything asuma can pull off.

Anyway, Kimimaru has shown high evasive maneuvers. Kimimaru's agility/evasion rival hidans. With higher speed, reflexes, and similar evasive maneuvers, there's not much hidan can do in terms of speed. I don't want to go into your scans, but hidan didn't pressure kakashi, only asuma. Obito___ tried to use that scan too.

 

[ToshiZO]

Part 1 lee is 4 in speed in base. Kimimaro effortlessly caught a kick - nnot dodged, caught, which is much harder - from that lee while he was using the first gate. That's 4 base speed + a speed boost which far exceed anything asuma can pull off.

Anyway, Kimimaru has shown high evasive maneuvers. Kimimaru's agility/evasion rival hidans. With higher speed, reflexes, and similar evasive maneuvers, there's not much hidan can do in terms of speed. I don't want to go into your scans, but hidan didn't pressure kakashi, only asuma. Obito___ tried to use that scan too.

well it can be argued Kakashi had to worry about Kakuzu's attacks which also plays a part in it...but one thing I know for sure Kakashi was in defensive and Hidan was the one attacking in most instances, this is probably cause Kakashi knows he cant risk attacking when it means it might draw blood, because he had intel on him he didnt really attack Hidan even once, which Asuma was trying to do.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Hidan evasion skills far surpass Kimmimaro's. His reflexes are about the same level and speed doesnt matter against Hidan as it was already shown in the manga.

Aren't you the same guuy who said hebi sasuke solo's kakuzu? Yea, you are. I don't need to respond to you.

well it can be argued Kakashi had to worry about Kakuzu's attacks which also plays a part in it...but one thing I know for sure Kakashi was in defensive and Hidan was the one attacking in most instances, this is probably cause Kakashi knows he cant risk attacking when it means it might draw blood, because he had intel on him he didnt really attack Hidan even once, which Asuma was trying to do.

that's why people think kakashi was pressured. Kakashi was looking out for kakuzu the entire time since they just did a combination attack. Kakashi is cautious and didn't want to wrecklessly attack hidan, and that's why some think he was pressured. He just stayed on defence because that's his fighting style until he figures a plan out.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Kakuzu wankers like you will always make me laugh, base Naruto beat him yet you think Hebi Sasuke couldnt win, keep making me laugh.
What a great way to evade a debate you know you cant win. Looks like im out of your league kiddo.

shit i never defend kakuzu. Guess you learn something knew about yourself everyday.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Only a wanker would think Hebi Sasuke literally doesn't stand a chance of winning against someone who got beat by Base Naruto, don't even deny it.

Didn't know sasuke had rasenshuriken and could remove 3 hearts in 1 shot

 

[ToshiZO]

that's why people think kakashi was pressured. Kakashi was looking out for kakuzu the entire time since they just did a combination attack. Kakashi is cautious and didn't want to wrecklessly attack hidan, and that's why some think he was pressured. He just stayed on defence because that's his fighting style until he figures a plan out.

hm well heres the thing I know this was early on in the fight but Kakashi wasnt expecting a combination attack yet Hidan was pressuring him to defend...

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you can see he was suprised to see the heart appear, so the moments before it appeared was a true indication of where he stood in their clash which was a defensive stance. I think the reason for this has partly to do with what you wrote about it being Kakashi's fighting style...the reason is kakashi is smart and analytical he knows he literally has nothing to gain from attacking Hidan because the worst he will do is injure him but it wont slow Hidan down meaning attacking him will only allow openings for Hidan to attack...so yea Kakashi was fighting a restricted yet effective style against Hidan because he gains nothing and only loses from attacking him.

off topic, why are you guys bringing up a PIS/CIS based fight, that kinda clash holds no merit in a vs thread like this.

 

[AGoodBoy]

hm well heres the thing I know this was early on in the fight but Kakashi wasnt expecting a combination attack yet Hidan was pressuring him to defend...

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you can see he was suprised to see the heart appear, so the moments before it appeared was a true indication of where he stood in their clash which was a defensive stance. I think the reason for this has partly to do with what you wrote about it being Kakashi's fighting style...the reason is kakashi is smart and analytical he knows he literally has nothing to gain from attacking Hidan because the worst he will do is injure him but it wont slow Hidan down meaning attacking him will only allow openings for Hidan to attack...so yea Kakashi was fighting a restricted yet effective style against Hidan because he gains nothing and only loses from attacking him.

off topic, why are you guys bringing up a PIS/CIS based fight, that kinda clash holds no merit in a vs thread like this.

don't forget, hidan randomly hurtled himself at kakashi with a scythe. Hidan's scythe is specifically designed with extra reach to have a higher chance of gathering blood. All kakashi had was a tiny kunai to defend himself, so him jumping back into a defensive stance at such an aggressive move by hidan is understandable.

What's PIS/CIS?

 

[AGoodBoy]

He doesn't need that in order to win, Domu is weak against any of his raiton attack including Kirin which would literally one shot Kakuzu.

So hebi sasuke now has amaterasu to prep kirin, huh?

 

[AGoodBoy]

Only Goryuka is needed for Kirin's execution.

oh... Why didn't you tell me you knew more than zetsu before i tried debating you... Now i'm left looking foolish.

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[ToshiZO]

don't forget, hidan randomly hurtled himself at kakashi with a scythe. Hidan's scythe is specifically designed with extra reach to have a higher chance of gathering blood. All kakashi had was a tiny kunai to defend himself, so him jumping back into a defensive stance at such an aggressive move by hidan is understandable.

What's PIS/CIS?

yes that is part of why he chose to defend in his clash's with Hidan.

PIS = Plot induced stupidity

CIS = Character Induced Stupidity

Kakuzu vs Naruto was an example of both
so was the recent Obito vs Kakashi

to sum it up characters are nerfed because of plot reasons...like the highly intelligent Kakuzu who countered and analyzed Shikamaru's and Kakashi's tactics, falling for such a cheap shadow clone trick which chunins in the chunin exam would be able to see through, just for the sake of plot. In vs threads the full abilities and intellect are taken into account. The Naruto that defeated him in the show would not defeat him if both were in character and given their full abilities thus Kakuzu wins that fight 9/10 times logically in a vs thread. In a vs thread plot is left out...therefore plot cant shield the main character otherwise Naruto takes out pretty much anyone he is up against because of plot shield protecting the main character.

 

[Zexion~]

Hmm so you were trying to hide a kakuzu argument from me huh ..Well Kakuzu rapes hebi-sasuke

 

[Zexion~]

I beg to differ

Your Main argument is Kirin ...which sasuke can only use once, and will never use that at the beginning of a battle, he'd get overrun just like Kakashi was by his hearts before he gets to use it

but lets say he does somehow manage to use it ..Thats one heart down? how does he take down the rest as his body is made of threads

 

[ToshiZO]

you guys are getting way too off topic, talk about that in its respective thread.

 

[AGoodBoy]

yes that is part of why he chose to defend in his clash's with Hidan.

PIS = Plot induced stupidity

CIS = Character Induced Stupidity

Kakuzu vs Naruto was an example of both
so was the recent Obito vs Kakashi

to sum it up characters are nerfed because of plot reasons...like the highly intelligent Kakuzu who countered and analyzed Shikamaru's and Kakashi's tactics, falling for such a cheap shadow clone trick which chunins in the chunin exam would be able to see through, just for the sake of plot. In vs threads the full abilities and intellect are taken into account. The Naruto that defeated him in the show would not defeat him if both were in character and given their full abilities thus Kakuzu wins that fight 9/10 times logically in a vs thread. In a vs thread plot is left out...therefore plot cant shield the main character otherwise Naruto takes out pretty much anyone he is up against because of plot shield protecting the main character.

ooooohhhhh. Yes, it's obvious that there was Pnj in that fight, but community is a troll. I'm just entertaining him because i'm currently bored doing nothing on my holiday.

Where does it say that he can't use it without amaterasu?

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Looks like you really are left looking foolish

well, shit. I don't know how sasuke prepping forbidden snake technique means he's using kirin. But, hey, maybe you're right. Orochimaru know's he's about to use kirin because he taught him kirin like he did chidori.

Actually, i stand corrected. He was about to use chidori here. 1 point for you. But, too bad my scan says he used amaterasu to fuel kirin, aka create the storm clouds