How many characters has soloed Sasukes mind?

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None, it was a combination of the era he was raised in , the slaughter of his clan [no link needed], & his uchiha emotions .

Oro never manipulated sasuke, oro was being used by sasuke. The only ones who have changed his mind about anything were people with knowledge of the uchiha emotional state (Itachi, Obito, Hashi).

Oro manipulated him to turn dark side. Sasuke was tempted by the power Oro was offering.

The fact he got out power from Orochimar than raped him in return and also the fact he got the EMS from Obito and gave the finger shits on this thread.
Still sasuke was manipulated by oro, not until he was strong enough to resist Oro, he was his pawn.
Obito offered Itachi's eyes voluntarily to Sasuke. Also toni manipulated him to attack the kage summit, kill danzou, and almost attacking konoha. tsk tsk tsk......

He kinda has a reason to be a little bit messed up lol.

He's like 16 years old with absolutely no friends, his entire family was murdered by his brother, when he was 8 years old and he witnessed it.

He just latches onto each "role model" who comes along.

He should be more like Naruto and Gaara, yet he lost his way. smh
 

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Did obito Not want to give him the EMS ?

Sasuke was TNJ'd into being Oro's puppet and the cursed mark was the proof


He just gets TNJ'd by whoever is the strongest

Stop hating, its absolutely ridiculous, by this logic naruto got Tnj'd by kurama, lmfao (who saved his ass, minato that's who).

Sasuke got bitten by the CM against his will & so he wanted to learn how to master it so he can gain more power. He used oro in order to master this new mode & when he learned all that he could he offed him.

Oro never changed sasuke's mind about anything, his goal was always to kill Itachi & that never changed while oro was with him U_U.
 

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So, what of it? did he take those eyes and gave Obito the finger?

He didn't take those eyes, he was given by tobi voluntarily.
Big difference. Lol Tobi could have killed sasuke on the operating table while transplanting the eye had he wanted to.
 

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Did obito Not want to give him the EMS ?

Sasuke was TNJ'd into being Oro's puppet and the cursed mark was the proof


He just gets TNJ'd by whoever is the strongest

You're very stupid individual.

Who has the eyes....Sasuke or ObitO? i don't know what is there to argue about...

I know you're intelligence is at a rat's level, but at least try to understand the manga....Sasuke couldn't control the Cruse Mark...so, he had no choice. but to go to Orohimaru or....Orochimaru might have attacked Konoha to get to Sasuke and Sasuke also had his reason for going to Orochimaru......to get the power that will allow him to kill Itachi.
 

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Oro manipulated him to turn dark side. Sasuke was tempted by the power Oro was offering.

Because his goal was always to kill Itachi, when Itachi came & tsukuyomi'd sasuke's ass again then that's when he wanted to seek out more power. Oro's CM was nothing but a nuisance to sasuke before that. Oro did nothing to change sasuke's goal, he only sped up the process, sasuke would've turned evil regardless.
 

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You're very stupid individual.

Who has the eyes....Sasuke or ObitO? i don't know what is there to argue about...

I know you're intelligence is at a rat's level, but at least try to understand the manga....Sasuke couldn't control the Cruse Mark...so, he had no choice. but to go to Orohimaru or....Orochimaru might have attacked Konoha to get to Sasuke and Sasuke also had his reason for going to Orochimaru......to get the power that will allow him to kill Itachi.
In the end, it results in him bowing to Itachi's will, to kill him. :|
 

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Stop hating, its absolutely ridiculous, by this logic naruto got Tnj'd by kurama, lmfao (who saved his ass, minato that's who).

Sasuke got bitten by the CM against his will & so he wanted to learn how to master it so he can gain more power. He used oro in order to master this new mode & when he learned all that he could he offed him.

Oro never changed sasuke's mind about anything, his goal was always to kill Itachi & that never changed while oro was with him U_U.

Still shows that sasuke wasn't confident of himself to improve on his own. That's why he had to cling on someone powerful to help him even if it means he has to gamble his wellbeing and follow their ideals. If oro was stronger and never lost his arms, sasuke would have remained as his pawn until he wished to takeover.
 

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He didn't take those eyes, he was given by tobi voluntarily.
Big difference. Lol Tobi could have killed sasuke on the operating table while transplanting the eye had he wanted to.

I'm getting the feeling that you people aren't too intelligent enough to understand what i'm saying....it doesn't matter whether Obito was the one who translated those eyes into him or Obito having the chance to kill Sasuke while he was transplanting the eyes....Sasuke has those eyes at the end of the day...please, at least try to understand that.
 
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Still shows that sasuke wasn't confident of himself to improve on his own. That's why he had to cling on someone powerful to help him even if it means he has to gamble his wellbeing and follow their ideals. If oro was stronger and never lost his arms, sasuke would have remained as his pawn until he wished to takeover.

Doesnt matter, lol. Oro never manipulated him, he never "clung" onto anybody, when he was done with oro he killed him.
 

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You're very stupid individual.

Who has the eyes....Sasuke or ObitO? i don't know what is there to argue about...

I know you're intelligence is at a rat's level, but at least try to understand the manga....Sasuke couldn't control the Cruse Mark...so, he had no choice. but to go to Orohimaru or....Orochimaru might have attacked Konoha to get to Sasuke and Sasuke also had his reason for going to Orochimaru......to get the power that will allow him to kill Itachi.

So in conclusion, everything Orochimaru did bear fruition since he was able to convince his next potential body to follow him until the time is right to take over.
Sasuke just did exactly what Orochimaru is expecting of him. Good puppets are so obedient. Lol


I'm getting the feeling that you people aren't too intelligent enough to understand what i'm saying....it doesn't matter whether Obito was the one who translated those eyes into him or Obito having the chance to kill Sasuke while he was transplanting the eyes....Sasuke has those eyes at the end of the day...please, at least try to understand that.

Did it occur to you that your lack of written comprehension is the reason why your words are not being understood? Now look who's the stupid simpleton. *_*
 
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Still shows that sasuke wasn't confident of himself to improve on his own. That's why he had to cling on someone powerful to help him even if it means he has to gamble his wellbeing and follow their ideals. If oro was stronger and never lost his arms, sasuke would have remained as his pawn until he wished to takeover.

Sasuke never followed Oro's ideals. He detested him.
 

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I like this.

I shall use this for the Sasuke fanboy's who try and say Sasuke's thought process is above Naruto's.
 

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None, it was a combination of the era he was raised in , the slaughter of his clan [no link needed], & his uchiha emotions .

Oro never manipulated sasuke, oro was being used by sasuke. The only ones who have changed his mind about anything were people with knowledge of the uchiha emotional state (Itachi, Obito, Hashi).

Orochimaru did have Sasuke totally manipulated at one point. Sasuke claimed he would give Orochimaru his life and his afterlife at one point.
Then he realized he was "stronger" than Orochimaru.
Then Tobi got his hands on him.
 

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So in conclusion, everything Orochimaru did bear fruition since he was able to convince his next potential body to follow him until the time is right to take over.
Sasuke just did exactly what Orochimaru is expecting of him. Good puppets are so obedient. Lol

The fact you're saying "lol" at the end of your argument shows you trying too hard to prove something you have zero information based on.....Sasuke couldn't leave until he finished his training or coming to Orohimaru in the first place would have been pointless if he had left....Sasuke chose to stay because he made that choice just as every choice he makes...not because Orohimaru expected him to do that....at least try to come up with better arguments to support your thread next time.
 

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Doesnt matter, lol. Oro never manipulated him, he never "clung" onto anybody, when he was done with oro he killed him.

Sasuke never followed Oro's ideals. He detested him.

In the end Sasuke became like Orochimaru, evil, hungry for power, and pretty much copied his fighting style and summoning. If oro was at 100%, sasuke would have became the next vessel of oro.


The fact you're saying "lol" at the end of your argument shows you trying too hard to prove something you have zero information based on.....Sasuke couldn't leave until he finished his training or coming to Orohimaru in the first place would have been pointless if he had left....Sasuke chose to stay because he made that choice just as every choice he makes...not because Orohimaru expected him to do that....at least try to come up with better arguments to support your thread next time.

Nah I'm saying lol at the end because its very funny and stupid for a character to be manipulated so easily. Also what you're saying is obviously biased and only look for the things that would justify sasuke's betrayal to the leaf and everyone he've known in the past.
It's very simple really, wise people would come up with a solution to get stronger themselves, not rely on the power of others and take upon their ideals to become like the person they admire. Otherwise they are just being controlled. Lol
 
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Orochimaru did have Sasuke totally manipulated at one point. Sasuke claimed he would give Orochimaru his life and his afterlife at one point.
Then he realized he was "stronger" than Orochimaru.
Then Tobi got his hands on him.

But as I said he was consumed by his goal which was to kill Itachi, when an uchiha experiences the loss of love it then turns into an even greater hate. Itachi manipulated sasuke's mind twice at an extremely young age with the images of the ones he loved dying before his eyes.

Itachi knew that a uchiha's love turns into hate because he told sasuke that he lacks hatred & made him experience the loss of love multiple times. This growing corruption inside of sasuke was what caused him to say those things to orochimaru. He thought that he could gain enough power to kill itachi if he gave his body to oro but as you said once he found out that he was stronger then his power was no longer needed.

In the end Sasuke became like Orochimaru, evil, hungry for power, and pretty much copied his fighting style and summoning. If oro was at 100%, sasuke would have became the next vessel of oro.

@Bold:speculation, but that doesnt change the fact that oro never manipulated sasuke's goals or intentions.
 

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So in conclusion, everything Orochimaru did bear fruition since he was able to convince his next potential body to follow him until the time is right to take over.
Sasuke just did exactly what Orochimaru is expecting of him. Good puppets are so obedient. Lol



Did it occur to you that your lack of written comprehension is the reason why your words are not being understood? Now look who's the stupid simpleton. *_*

Wait, you of all people are going to talk about my writing skills?
 

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You guys are delusional, the only one's that manipulated Sasuke was itachi (who manipulated everyone he came in contact with). Oro never manipulated Sasuke, if anything Sasuke manipulated him so he could gain more power. Obito didn't manipulate sasuke, he simply told him the TRUTH about Itachi. At that point sasuke had devoted his life to killing itachi so he didn't know what to do next. After Obito's story HE DECIDED on his own to get revenge on the leaf. As one of you stated incorrectly, Obito did NOT make sasuke attack the kage summit. He did it on his own because it was the easiest way to get to Danzo. After meeting up with Edo itachi and defeating Kabuto, sasuke wanted clarity on if he should continue with his plan of attacking the leaf or honoring itachi's memory, that's why he revived Oro to summon the kage. He did this on his OWN free will because he wanted to here how the village was born from Hashi. Hashi's story did NOT change his mind or manipulate him in anyway. At that time he knew what he wanted to do but not how to do it. After hearing hashi's story he decided (In my opinion: to protect the leaf now, so he can destroy it later, at least in the sense of destroying the way it's operated) Hashi did not manipulate him in anyway.... what manga are you guys reading??????
 

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But as I said he was consumed by his goal which was to kill Itachi, when an uchiha experiences the loss of love it then turns into an even greater hate. Itachi manipulated sasuke's mind twice at an extremely young age with the images of the ones he loved dying before his eyes.

Itachi knew that a uchiha's love turns into hate because he told sasuke that he lacks hatred & made him experience the loss of love multiple times. This growing corruption inside of sasuke was what caused him to say those things to orochimaru. He thought that he could gain enough power to kill itachi if he gave his body to oro but as you said once he found out that he was stronger then his power was no longer needed.
If Orochimaru says "I can give you the power to kill Itachi... But I will be taking over your body in return" and Sasuke says "YES. DEAL. LET'S DO IT." It seems like manipulation to me. Perhaps subtle manipulation, but manipulation nonetheless.
But then when Orochimaru got insanely weakened, Sasuke obviously figured he didn't need Orochimaru. That's why I say the manipulation was subtle.
 
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