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so, madara's susano'o sword that tsunade can snap like twigs is stronger than susano'o?

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that's CS by hydra which is far bigger than bunta


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find the legs.

That's not vs that's pre stabilized ps and hydra looks bugger than itachi's susanoo
 

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That his perfect susanoo btw and tanking something = defense so yes iT does
If you can't the difference between Complete Susano'o and Perfect then we might as well not quote each other now.
Oh so you are saying now that size does matter, so Madara's Susanoo is more powerful then Sasuke's Susanoo, you are contradicting yourself.
Did i say that Sasuke's matched Madara's in power? or did i say the durability is the same? You're talking about once again its size and power.You can't even stay on topic man, all my posts is about tanking TBB and how the durability is the same not the power.
First you say size doesn't matter, now you are saying it does.
Size matters in power but not defense like KG said above.Why is this so hard to grasp.
 

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so, madara's susano'o sword that tsunade can snap like twigs is stronger than susano'o?

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that's CS by hydra which is far bigger than bunta


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find the legs.

It doesn't have legs and it is still bigger then Itachi's or Sasuke's.

If you check the rest of the fight Madara's Susanoo without legs is bigger then mountains.

And like I have said several times when the TBB exploded Madara survived by fusing Susanoo with the 9 tails, and Sasuke doesn't have a Tailed Beast nor is his Susanoo bigger then mountains.
 

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It doesn't have legs and it is still bigger then Itachi's or Sasuke's.

If you check the rest of the fight Madara's Susanoo without legs is bigger then mountains.

And like I have said several times when the TBB exploded Madara survived by fusing Susanoo with the 9 tails, and Sasuke doesn't have a Tailed Beast nor is his Susanoo bigger then mountains.
If Madara didn't do that his 9 Tails would've taken the damage, why would he allow his powerful weapon to get knocked out at the start of the fight?
 

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Not going to happen instead Sasuke will started to realize that Naruto is leagues ahead of Sasuke,thus teaching Sasuke serious Humility that He desperately needs to learn.
 

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Only a Naruto fanboy would ever say KCM Naruto is above EMS Sasuke! Who cares about speed that's not what determines a battle. It's all about your skills and how you use them to get yourself out of a predicament! We all know Raikage would of died against Sasuke for using his speed as the answer to all his problems.

OT: Perfect Susanoo will make him equal to Naruto or another power-up!
 

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show me sasuke going all out? he has been held back in every fight. You haven't seen sasuke go all out with ems. and the only other person with ems was the second strongest shinobi in the world.
 

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If Madara didn't do that his 9 Tails would've taken the damage, why would he allow his powerful weapon to get knocked out at the start of the fight?

No as Hashirama noted, he did that to save himself, the tailed Beast Ball wouldn't have hit the 9 tails, its aimed at Madara.
 

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show me sasuke going all out? he has been held back in every fight. You haven't seen sasuke go all out with ems. and the only other person with ems was the second strongest shinobi in the world.

He held back vs the juubi or vs zestu clones? Nice nice
 

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No as Hashirama noted, he did that to save himself, the tailed Beast Ball wouldn't have hit the 9 tails, its aimed at Madara.

Show me a scan of Hashirama said what you told me.

@ Bold: so the 9 tails was outside of the Look at how close the 9 tails was and look at the zoomed out shot of the explosion.
 

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Only a Naruto fanboy would ever say KCM Naruto is above EMS Sasuke! Who cares about speed that's not what determines a battle. It's all about your skills and how you use them to get yourself out of a predicament! We all know Raikage would of died against Sasuke for using his speed as the answer to all his problems.

OT: Perfect Susanoo will make him equal to Naruto or another power-up!

Ems sasuke has no feats that put him on that level and raikage was winning so idk what your talking about
 

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He held back vs the juubi or vs zestu clones? Nice nice

his eyes were brand new in the zetsu fight, and yes he hasn't used his full power yet in the juubi fight
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Not exactly final susanoo
 

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People say that Sasuke's Susano'o is nothing like Madara's due to the size of his V1 and his V3 and V4 being larger than Sasuke's.The reason why his V3 and V4 along with PS is so large is due to Madara's MS ability being Susano'o shape manipulation which is similar to Itachi's Genjutsu time manipulation and Sasuke's enton manipulation.

The rib-cages are the same no matter who uses it the argument for Madara's being larger is wrong, Itachi can change the size of his ribs depending on the situation.
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Notice how large it is when he was approaching Sasuke.He wasn't on the offense he was on the defensive side so he can approach Sasuke without anything stopping him.
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next is the hand size which is once again shown to change size from yours truly Itachi.
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It can become bigger than a human easily.
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Basically all Susano'o users have the same defense(besides Itachi thanks to yata) and manipulation(up until the V3 form for Madara which was already explained why his has legs).

Madara blocked a Tbb using the swords which are much more thinner than the actual Susano'o structure.
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And later took the whole explosion head on.(this was from full powered yin/yang Kurumah).
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This wasn't even PS either so i believe that Sasuke can imitate this same feat.Like i said before the only different is the size of the Susano'o not the overall defense capabilities.

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Show me a scan of Hashirama said what you told me.

@ Bold: so the 9 tails was outside of the Look at how close the 9 tails was and look at the zoomed out shot of the explosion.

Show me a scan that Madara only did it to save the 9 tails.


The Tailed Beast Ball wasn't even aimed at the 9 tails.
 

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Ems sasuke has no feats that put him on that level

KCM Naruto despite having power attacks and awesome reflexes won't have anything to match Sasuke's Final Susanoo... Remember that awesome humanoid that he used to obliterate all the Zetsu? Aha that one. Even with EMS Sasuke having literally no feats doesn't put him below KCM Naruto. Also KCM Naruto wasn't that impressive compare to BM Naruto. It was when he entered BM mode that things got serious.
 

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Show me a scan that Madara only did it to save the 9 tails.


The Tailed Beast Ball wasn't even aimed at the 9 tails.

The explosion was in the 9 tails range of course it would've gotten hit.Just look at the scan its common sense to know that the explosion would harm everyone around it, Hashirama hid inside his wood because of that same explosion.
 

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People say that Sasuke's Susano'o is nothing like Madara's due to the size of his V1 and his V3 and V4 being larger than Sasuke's.The reason why his V3 and V4 along with PS is so large is due to Madara's MS ability being Susano'o shape manipulation which is similar to Itachi's Genjutsu time manipulation and Sasuke's enton manipulation.

The rib-cages are the same no matter who uses it the argument for Madara's being larger is wrong, Itachi can change the size of his ribs depending on the situation.
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Notice how large it is when he was approaching Sasuke.He wasn't on the offense he was on the defensive side so he can approach Sasuke without anything stopping him.
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next is the hand size which is once again shown to change size from yours truly Itachi.
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It can become bigger than a human easily.
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Basically all Susano'o users have the same defense(besides Itachi thanks to yata) and manipulation(up until the V3 form for Madara which was already explained why his has legs).

Madara blocked a Tbb using the swords which are much more thinner than the actual Susano'o structure.
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And later took the whole explosion head on.(this was from full powered yin/yang Kurumah).
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And the only reason Madara survived was because of the 9 tails.

And as the pics shows Madara's CS towers over Mountains, something Sasuke's susanoo has never done.

And its never once been said that one Susanoo equals another, show me a scan where this is said.
 

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And the only reason Madara survived was because of the 9 tails.

And as the pics shows Madara's CS towers over Mountains, something Sasuke's susanoo has never done.

And its never once been said that one Susanoo equals another, show me a scan where this is said.

Sasuke fanboy logic Lol
 

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That's not vs that's pre stabilized ps and hydra looks bugger than itachi's susanoo
Exactly. It's pre stabilized version, therefore it's alredy being shape manipulated and only the sword was able to tank a tbb. Therefore assuming the body of a susano'o can't is absurd. Furthermore, Hydra is far bigger than manda, which is bigger than bunta which is about the size of kyuubi. Because of this, Hydra makes itachi's susano'o look small, when, in reality, it's on the level of summoniings/bijuu's.

It doesn't have legs and it is still bigger then Itachi's or Sasuke's.

If you check the rest of the fight Madara's Susanoo without legs is bigger then mountains.

And like I have said several times when the TBB exploded Madara survived by fusing Susanoo with the 9 tails, and Sasuke doesn't have a Tailed Beast nor is his Susanoo bigger then mountains.
Refer to what i said above.

@bold no such scan. Every scan after that one is of PS. PS was coated around kyuubi and was the size of a kyuubi.
Hydra >>> Manda > Bunta = 95% kyuubi >= itachi's susano'o. If you check the scan you responded to, that pre stabilized CS (bigger than CS) is still slightly smaller than Kyuubi.

Madara's susano'o is what protected him from the impact. What else would have protected him? Even if susano'o fused with kyuubi, kyuubi would now be protected but madara is still standing ontop of it. Therefore, Madara's susano'o protected himself and kyuubi, wwe never saw madara jumping out of kyuubi's mouth and seeing as even , madara didn't tank the attack in the open.
 
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