Will Tsukuyomi work on Naruto?

[Anish Chakraborty]

well perfect jins dont get caught up in genjutsu and even if naruto gets caught up... kurama is there to save him although a lot of damage might occur!!

 

[Gerkak]

I already said this before but sasuke has no tsukuyomi. Only if your genjutsu can control time perception can it be considered tsukuyomi. if any genjutsu cast with MS is tsukuyomi then KA is also tsukuyomi see my point?

 

[BlackFlame44]

Well for Itachi, Tsukuyomi is 72 hours on his time and 1 second in reality. I think it would be over before Kurama could react in time to wake him up. Even if he could, a lot of damage would already be done to him.

They share the same mind that's why kurama was able to give naruto his strength almost instantly

 

[DJKS]

Nope, the bijuus just disrupt the chakra but it doesn't matter, neither Bee nor Naruto should be alive if Tsukuyomi is casted upon.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Not all ms is the same tsukuyomi alters pain perception and the sense of time sasuke has not shown either

then let me put it another way... All MS can perform Advanced genjutsu. Itachi posseses a specialist version of MS genjutsu called tsukuyomi whereas shishui posses KA.

 

[Penguin]

Perfect Jins are immune to genjutsu as in the Tailed Beast breaks them out of it within a matter of milliseconds due to the same psyche. Not all MS have Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. We have not seen Madara's MS power besides Susano'o, Obito's was different, Shisui's was different also.

then let me put it another way... All MS can perform Advanced genjutsu. Itachi posseses a specialist version of MS genjutsu called tsukuyomi whereas shishui posses KA.

False. Obito's MS is Kamui and Kamui. Short and long ranged. Sorry to tell you that you are wrong.

 

[BlackFlame44]

then let me put it another way... All MS can perform Advanced genjutsu. Itachi posseses a specialist version of MS genjutsu called tsukuyomi whereas shishui posses KA.

I can agree with that

 

[AGoodBoy]

Perfect Jins are immune to genjutsu as in the Tailed Beast breaks them out of it within a matter of milliseconds due to the same psyche. Not all MS have Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. We have not seen Madara's MS power besides Susano'o, Obito's was different, Shisui's was different also.



False. Obito's MS is Kamui and Kamui. Short and long ranged. Sorry to tell you that you are wrong.

Izanagi is a genjutsu which replaces a dream world with a real world. How are you certain Kamui isn't a genjutsu in a manner like izanagi?
The close ranged kamui could possibly be a genjutsu variant.
Whereas the long ranged kamui can be an amaterasu variant, or even an unsucessful amaterasu somehow - instead of transporting flames from hell to the users Line of sight, it transports something from their line of sight to somewhere else.

Kamui's mechanics haven't been fully clarified, therefore we can't yet say it breaks the definition of MS - advanced genjutsu, advanced ninjutsu and susano'o.

 

[theacknowledgedone]

They share the same mind that's why kurama was able to give naruto his strength almost instantly

I don't think that's entirely correct. If they shared the same mind they would both be vulnerable to falling under Tsukuyomi. The bijuu themselves can be put into a genjutsu (nine tails attack on konoha). Kurama has a mind of his own, being inside Naruto he is their to wake him up because the genjutsu can't get to Kurama as he is sealed away inside him. He could only put a genjutsu under one of the chakra's and since perf jin's have two chakras, the bijuu can disrupt theirs and bring them back to reality.

Sasuke's is far inferior to Itachi's, Itachi can manipulate space and time while Sasuke's is considered a basic genjutsu as he is still learning to control it. By the time Kurama realizes Naruto is in one its been almost a second already and the 72 hours of torture has already finished.

This is a basic genjutsu that Itachi used on Bee, this is how he broke out...time and space wasn't manipulated here

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However, if he would have used Tsukuyomi after activating MS. It is clearly stated that he would have been screwed by Naruto because he can manipulate time and space when this occurs.

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[Skull Knight]

i dont think it will affect naruto.
kurama will snap him out of it.

 

[BlackFlame44]

I don't think that's entirely correct. If they shared the same mind they would both be vulnerable to falling under Tsukuyomi. The bijuu themselves can be put into a genjutsu (nine tails attack on konoha). Kurama has a mind of his own, being inside Naruto he is their to wake him up because the genjutsu can't get to Kurama as he is sealed away inside him. He could only put a genjutsu under one of the chakra's and since perf jin's have two chakras, the bijuu can disrupt theirs and bring them back to reality.

Sasuke's is far inferior to Itachi's, Itachi can manipulate space and time while Sasuke's is considered a basic genjutsu as he is still learning to control it. By the time Kurama realizes Naruto is in one its been almost a second already and the 72 hours of torture has already finished.

This is a basic genjutsu that Itachi used on Bee, this is how he broke out...time and space wasn't manipulated here

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However, if he would have used Tsukuyomi after activating MS. It is clearly stated that he would have been screwed by Naruto because he can manipulate time and space when this occurs.

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Well the tailed beast in the genjutsu it he's aware about what's going on about the host that's why he knew he was in the genjutsu and that's also how the fox knew about naruto falling down the Cliff so tsukuyomi only affects real time they still will be aware of the genjutsu

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Well the tailed beast in the genjutsu it he's aware about what's going on about the host that's why he knew he was in the genjutsu and that's also how the fox knew about naruto falling down the Cliff so tsukuyomi only affects real time they still will be aware of the genjutsu

Yeah Kurama is aware of everything that is happening because he is a second host watching from inside Naruto. What I'm saying is that once Tsukuyomi is cast on Naruto the fox can't break him out before most of the damage is done. I think this here is a clear indication of why Itachi's Tsukuyomi can't be broken.

Only someone of the same bloodline could break it, meaning by the time Kurama disrupts the chakra the damage will already have been done. The time duration in reality for Kurama isn't enough for him to break the 72 hours that Naruto has already been through.

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[BlackFlame44]

Yeah Kurama is aware of everything that is happening because he is a second host watching from inside Naruto. What I'm saying is that once Tsukuyomi is cast on Naruto the fox can't break him out before most of the damage is done. I think this here is a clear indication of why Itachi's Tsukuyomi can't be broken.

Only someone of the same bloodline could break it, meaning by the time Kurama disrupts the chakra the damage will already have been done. The time duration in reality for Kurama isn't enough for him to break the 72 hours that Naruto has already been through.

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Time in the real world doesn't mean anything to kurama since he's in the subconscious where tsukuyomi takes place

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Time in the real world doesn't mean anything to kurama since he's in the subconscious where tsukuyomi takes place

Lol bro unless you got a scan form the manga or something from the DB to disprove what I just said, you have lost the argument. I've given you every reason why a perf jin cannot break Tsukuyomi. 72 hours > 1 second, GG Kurama.

Edit: Itachi's Tsukuyomi*

 

[BlackFlame44]

Lol bro unless you got a scan form the manga or something from the DB to disprove what I just said, you have lost the argument. I've given you every reason why a perf jin cannot break Tsukuyomi. 72 hours > 1 second, GG Kurama.

Edit: Itachi's Tsukuyomi*

I don't feel like posting scans and posting scans don't make u smarter or more right kurama will know when he gets caught and break him out as soon as he gets caught

 

[theacknowledgedone]

I don't feel like posting scans and posting scans don't make u smarter or more right kurama will know when he gets caught and break him out as soon as he gets caught

Since all of your posts are based on Speculation and assumptions. Here's one for ya, If caught, Kurama will have to say "hey, wake up Naruto" Now tell me how long it takes for you to say that. Should be a little over a second. Since that's what the eight tails had to do for Bee smh.... Itachi's Tsukuyomi is already done. Not broken

 

[BlackFlame44]

Since all of your posts are based on Speculation and assumptions. Here's one for ya, If caught, Kurama will have to say "hey, wake up Naruto" Now tell me how long it takes for you to say that. Should be a little over a second. Since that's what the eight tails had to do for Bee smh.... Itachi's Tsukuyomi is already done. Not broken

It's been show before they have the same sub conscious lol kurama will snap naruto out they'll both under tsukuyomi's effect

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Nope, he's a perfect jinchuriki. On top of that, bijus can effect time perception of the jinchuriki as well. This counters the tsukyomi's time perception.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Nope, he's a perfect jinchuriki. On top of that, bijus can effect time perception of the jinchuriki as well. This counters the tsukyomi's time perception.

I want proof of bijuu time perception

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I want proof of bijuu time perception

example 1. Kurama and Naruto's conversation while falling to his death.

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I doubt that the drop was long enough for all this to happen in real time after falling a great deal already.


example 2. Meeting the bijus and jinchuriki.

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There's no way such a long discussion occur while Naruto was standing still unless it happened in an instant in real time. Otherwise, Obito would have attacked him, or biju mode would have run out before he removed the rods.