[Theory] Naruto WILL get another buff within the next 10 chapters.

[osba]

I think Minato is summoning the original to give Naruto the Yin chakra.

In this thread i am going to explain how i think sage chakra and kyuubi chakra could work together, but why it right now would not make naruto stronger and thus it would not be beneficial to do so.

lets assume these are the chakra levels:
Current Kyuubi=50 (misses yin)

Naruto=6

Controlled Kyuubi mode benefit at the time he met pain = +6

Sage mode would make you 1.3x as strong:

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Okay, so my idea is that the SM+KM could only workout for so much is because he needed to form his own chakra into yin chakra to compensate for kurama's yin being missing.

It would work out as something like this:
6 controlled Kyuubi chakra + 6 Naruto Yin chakra = 12 chakra + 6 sage mode chakra = 18 chakra level.

Once naruto has the yin chakra of the kyuubi he could use it like this:
100 full Kyuubi chakra level (including yin) + 50 sage chakra level = 150 charka level.

So to conclude this theory: the reason naruto is not using kyuubi+sage mode atm is because it would require him to act as yin chakra (wich is obviously ALOT less than just using Kurama's yang).

Can't wait untill Minato hands Naruto the yin chakra and find out what kind of crazy power moves he could make! ^.^

TL;DR: naruto will get 3x the amount of chakra than he currently has according to manga facts

 

[Edo Odin]

Why do you insist on bringing math into this...? :|

In any case, I've begun to stop caring for Naruto's character. He's gotten way too OP for my taste, I'd rather have Kishi shine some more light on other characters, such as Sasuke or Tobirama. (Kishi really needs to show us these Suiton skills that have been hyped up so much.)

 

[mezuki]

Sasuke solos

 

[osba]

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Sasuke solos

Don't skip school, doesn't makes you cool.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Also Naruto is going on break too :I

 

[osba]

Why do you insist on bringing math into this...? :|

In any case, I've begun to stop caring for Naruto's character. He's gotten way too OP for my taste, I'd rather have Kishi shine some more light on other characters, such as Sasuke or Tobirama. (Kishi really needs to show us these Suiton skills that have been hyped up so much.)

i agree but this powerup is so obvious it has to happen x)

 

[Nous]

Interesting. Naruto getting another power-up would be unfair considering that Sasuke who can surpass KCM Naruto, more than likely lags behind Naruto in BM. If he does get a power-up, it won't be too substantial.

 

[osba]

Interesting. Naruto getting another power-up would be unfair considering that Sasuke who can surpass KCM Naruto, more than likely lags behind Naruto in BM. If he does get a power-up, it won't be too substantial.

i'm afraid it will be substantial looking at the facts :s
i'd expect sasuke to OR get a powerup.. wich would be an asspull unless he gets for example the eight tails to borrow.. OR sasuke to die (yeah yeah.. bring in the hate and plot shield comments..)
OR naruto to lose or release the nine tails sometime soon ^.^

 

[reizon]

Sasuke solos

you are getting a little too annoying..!!

 

[thunderthehybrid]

it's not about quantity. it's about quality

 

[osba]

it's not about quantity. it's about quality

did you watch the pain fight? did you watch naruto stomp out those chakra rods from son goku?
it will make him capable of feeling chakra AND hatred, damn.. he will know what someone is going to use even before they do.. i can't wait... yin will only be a 33% increase.. the real increase will come from combining it with the sage mode! now thats the 100% power naruto will reach believe me!

 

[FearxDeath]

x__x there's alot of assuming going on here, and if those assumptions are right then you would be onto something here, but why should someone believe those assumptions are true?

 

[Black Ace]

Naruto is going on break In the first week of August! and what the hell i just read.

 

[osba]

x__x there's alot of assuming going on here, and if those assumptions are right then you would be onto something here, but why should someone believe those assumptions are true?

i put in some manga facts for you

 

[FearxDeath]

No no no, this is still wrong my friend. Here is the thing you are messing up on.

You are saying that:

Yin Energy + Yang Energy = Chakra

And thus you assume that:

Yin Energy = 1/2
Yang Energy = 1/2



You go on to say that:

Nature Chakra + Yin Energy + Yang Energy = Senjutsu

And thus you assume that:

Nature Energy = 1/3
Yin Energy = 1/3
Yang Energy = 1/3

But that is not correct, simply because a portion of Nature Chakra is required to create Senjutsu does not mean that Nature Chakra is equal to Yin and Yang Energy. Nature Chakra is alot, and I do mean alot, more potent, so much so that only someone with alot of Chakra can even attempt to control it. But simply because there is a balance there does not imply that each portion is equally as power. Lets take other Jutsu for example:

Genjutsu. The technique requires Chakra which is created from both Yin and Yang Energies. But since it is not elemental, it is are considered to be in the Yin Category, because they employ primarily Yin Energies. [

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Thus you see that a different balance of Energies is required to utilize different techniques [

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] (It shows a 1/3 Pie but it is more than likely that that was just used for ease of understanding. Or could relate to a kind of potency issue which I can explain is you want but atm so I dont make this post longer than it needs to be), and although we know that a balance is required for senjutsu we are not sure of the ratio of that balance. It could be like Genjutsu which is primarily Yin with a bit of Yang added to it, this is what I figure to be more likely when I take into account how Naruto's power increases drastically when he uses it, far more than 1/3.

Thus we see that the ratio for Senjutsu may infact look more like this:

Nature Energy = 8/10
Yin Energy = 1/10
Yang Energy = 1/10

It could even be bigger, who knows, I doubt kishi will every elaborate on this anymore than he already has. I hope I clarified things

 

[headbanger666]

Don't skip school, doesn't makes you cool.

make not makes

 

[6PathsofKami]

Naruto is going on break In the first week of August! and what the hell i just read.

Ffs it's always on a break

 

[Sot6p]

I don't like the fact that Naruto has to get a mode to get stronger.
Why the hell couldn't Kishi just make base Naruto stronger? Is it THAT hard? It's like every time he needs Naruto to be stronger, he creates a freaking new mode! That's utterly stupid.
It's just like how Sasuke got stronger...
Sasuke got his MS, then he fights the Kages and gets 2x stronger.
He fights Naruto, gets Itachi's eyes and gets stronger again.
Sasuke fights Kabuto and gets stronger again.

Now with Naruto.
There is a new enemy! What do we do? Let's teach the bastard a freaking mode that makes him strong enough!
Oh no! Another enemy! What do we do now? Fret not, dear citizens of NV! I have the perfect solution for this liability; I'll give Naruto yet another mode!
Honestly, Naruto has so many modes that I can't believe.

And there's also the Kage Bunshin method. I think Kishi realized that he needed to make Naruto stronger urgently and invented the method. Maybe he didn't realize that this training method would work wonders for Naruto's mother. And that she should have been the most powerful kunoichi on the planet if she knew the technique. And would've worked for Uzumaki Mito as well...

I'll be upset if Kishi realizes that he accidentally made Obito too strong, and that people will need power ups.

 

[Ultimatum]

I don't like the fact that Naruto has to get a mode to get stronger.
Why the hell couldn't Kishi just make base Naruto stronger? Is it THAT hard? It's like every time he needs Naruto to be stronger, he creates a freaking new mode! That's utterly stupid.
It's just like how Sasuke got stronger...
Sasuke got his MS, then he fights the Kages and gets 2x stronger.
He fights Naruto, gets Itachi's eyes and gets stronger again.
Sasuke fights Kabuto and gets stronger again.

Now with Naruto.
There is a new enemy! What do we do? Let's teach the bastard a freaking mode that makes him strong enough!
Oh no! Another enemy! What do we do now? Fret not, dear citizens of NV! I have the perfect solution for this liability; I'll give Naruto yet another mode!
Honestly, Naruto has so many modes that I can't believe.

And there's also the Kage Bunshin method. I think Kishi realized that he needed to make Naruto stronger urgently and invented the method. Maybe he didn't realize that this training method would work wonders for Naruto's mother. And that she should have been the most powerful kunoichi on the planet if she knew the technique. And would've worked for Uzumaki Mito as well...

I'll be upset if Kishi realizes that he accidentally made Obito too strong, and that people will need power ups.

Not to mention that it has become quite a trend in shounen mangas.

 

[osba]

No no no, this is still wrong my friend. Here is the thing you are messing up on.

You are saying that:

Yin Energy + Yang Energy = Chakra

And thus you assume that:

Yin Energy = 1/2
Yang Energy = 1/2



You go on to say that:

Nature Chakra + Yin Energy + Yang Energy = Senjutsu

And thus you assume that:

Nature Energy = 1/3
Yin Energy = 1/3
Yang Energy = 1/3

But that is not correct, simply because a portion of Nature Chakra is required to create Senjutsu does not mean that Nature Chakra is equal to Yin and Yang Energy. Nature Chakra is alot, and I do mean alot, more potent, so much so that only someone with alot of Chakra can even attempt to control it. But simply because there is a balance there does not imply that each portion is equally as power. Lets take other Jutsu for example:

Genjutsu. The technique requires Chakra which is created from both Yin and Yang Energies. But since it is not elemental, it is are considered to be in the Yin Category, because they employ primarily Yin Energies. [

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]

Thus you see that a different balance of Energies is required to utilize different techniques [

You must be registered for see links

] (It shows a 1/3 Pie but it is more than likely that that was just used for ease of understanding. Or could relate to a kind of potency issue which I can explain is you want but atm so I dont make this post longer than it needs to be), and although we know that a balance is required for senjutsu we are not sure of the ratio of that balance. It could be like Genjutsu which is primarily Yin with a bit of Yang added to it, this is what I figure to be more likely when I take into account how Naruto's power increases drastically when he uses it, far more than 1/3.

Thus we see that the ratio for Senjutsu may infact look more like this:

Nature Energy = 8/10
Yin Energy = 1/10
Yang Energy = 1/10

It could even be bigger, who knows, I doubt kishi will every elaborate on this anymore than he already has. I hope I clarified things

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i think thats about your values..
also, senju chakra does not require chakra to collect.. it only requires your chakra to balance so that it doesn't messes with your own chakra pools
pretty sure he will elaborate on it as sage mode's have been in plenty for the past few chapters >.> (cheap kishi.. cheap..)
AND naruto will combine them once he has the yin part to balance out the yang ^.^
BUT for naruto's clones at the frog place to be beneficial one would be suggested that it won't actually get larger from having more chakra..
It might just be about balancing out your yin and yang so the nature energy can't slip into and interfere with your chakra pool.. (that would explain why the clones would work..) rather than the actual amount of chakra, it would matter how much balance you can keep between those...

hhm so much we can't yet know for sure about this :/