[Discussion] Reasons Behind Homosexuality

[Wolfus]

Firstly, we have to define what "normal" is. You know that other species, such as bonobo apes, lions, penguins, bats, and bears exhibit homosexuality. Since we understand this part, wouldn't it be applicable to state that this trait is Natural among communities? We have also demonstrated that this trait is expressed through several positions (though we haven't found the underlying gene for it). You may not agree with homosexuality, but you have to at least agree that it is naturally-occurring, thus normal.

I agreed with almost everything you said. But I guess you're making mistaking normal with common, which is very common. It is very hard to define "normal", so I'll start with common. Common is when the event has a frequency. If it happens a lot, it's very common, if it barely happens, it's not common. The homossexualsim is indeed present in many other species, which increases it's frequency, making it more common. But is it normal? Well, I think not. What should be considered normal for the male in every specie? To have "***" with the female. Why? Because with it, they will reproduce, leaving a descendent and perpetuating the species. The animals' reproductive system is adapted for that, not for the homossexualism. So, the homossexualism goes "against" the reproductive nature of the species. That's why it's not normal. I'm not saying it's bad, good, right or wrong. This has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I think they should keep studing the causes of the homossexualism, maybe they find something that makes it normal. But so far, this is it.

 

[HadouKage]

Firstly, since you say "humans killing another human", you're referring to this as "cannibalism". A very large majority of many populations of animals do not partake in Cannibalism. This is "unnatural", while something completely different, homosexuality, is natural.

Unnatural? So why does it occur in nature then? Female grasshoppers eat their mates yet it is unnatural? I don't understand, can you clarify? Also, the comparison I was trying to make it my earlier post was to show that we are different from animals, our intellect is what makes us the highest on the food chain. We can distinguish the difference between right and wrong. So to include your explanation of how homosexuality occurs in nature, I feels as though you should also include cannibalism as some animals in nature perform this as well

Getting offtopic as you're clueless on the matter.

Sexual brain organization is dependent on *** hormone and neurotransmitter levels occurring during critical developmental periods. The higher the androgen levels during brain organization, caused by genetic and/or environmental factors, the higher is the biological predisposition to bi- and homosexuality or even transsexualism in females and the lower it is in males.

Note: 'developmental periods' referring to biological/hormone changes , not social environment influencing the child's sexual preferences as you would probably interpret it.

Bro, I understand you like to read "things" but I'm not retarded nor am I ignorant in the subject. I don't ever debate anything I have no clue of. I used to but it is what I said, ignorant. I 'm fully aware of the factors that can lead to homosexuality. I was not getting off topic but rather making a comparison which it seems that you missed :|

 

[PTran5]

I believe genetics and choice both play a role in homosexuality. Choice determines the environmental factors that surround you and that ultimately can alter the expression of the gene responsible for homosexuality. For example, a male person may have genetically inherited a gene that will make him turn gay, but if he changed his lifestyle (like hanging out with more girls) then there is no reason why the gene would not be expressed in a different manner in order for that person to become straight. Though, I am not sure if there is evidence that suggest hanging out with more girls will increase your chances of becoming straight.

 

[Klaroline]

This thread though.

 

[YowYan]

Unnatural? So why does it occur in nature then? Female grasshoppers eat their mates yet it is unnatural? I don't understand, can you clarify? Also, the comparison I was trying to make it my earlier post was to show that we are different from animals, our intellect is what makes us the highest on the food chain. We can distinguish the difference between right and wrong. So to include your explanation of how homosexuality occurs in nature, I feels as though you should also include cannibalism as some animals in nature perform this a

Bro, I understand you like to read "things" but I'm not retarded nor am I ignorant in the subject. I don't ever debate anything I have no clue of. I used to but it is what I said, ignorant. I 'm fully aware of the factors that can lead to homosexuality. I was not getting off topic but rather making a comparison which it seems that you missed :|

Nonsense. I've seen plenty of your posts on different threads, usually spouting ignorant biased views on religion and homosexuality.

 

[Cornson]

A lot of people say you don't choose to be homosexual (being careful with my word choice) you just are (born homosexual I suppose). This always confused me, I always thought that you chose to be homosexual through life experiences. Well tell me what you think do you think homosexuality is predetermined, chosen, or possibly both?

led me answer your question with a other question:

When did you chose to be strait?

 

[Kenotthib]

led me answer your question with a other question:

When did you chose to be strait?

I'm neither homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual. I'm asexual.

 

[Cornson]

I'm neither homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual. I'm asexual.

what sexuality you are is really besides the point, the point was litterly when did you chose the sexuality you have? (I just expected that you would be strait, sins the majority of men are that)

So when did you chose to be asexual?

 

[HadouKage]

Nonsense. I've seen plenty of your posts on different threads, usually spouting ignorant biased views on religion and homosexuality.

I can see that you do not know how to read. So I'll kindly point it out for you

Bro, I understand you like to read "things" but I'm not retarded nor am I ignorant in the subject. I don't ever debate anything I have no clue of. I used to but it is what I said, ignorant. I 'm fully aware of the factors that can lead to homosexuality. I was not getting off topic but rather making a comparison which it seems that you missed :|

The only ignorance that I see is your limited scope on the matter. And you still haven't provided me the differences that I asked for in my previous thread. If you have but any, you can PM it to me if you'd like

 

[Kenotthib]

I was attracted to girls at one point but after my last relationship (approximately 4 years ago) I came to realize I shouldn't be dependent on anyone else for happiness. After that I discarded my attraction for girls (yes I discarded it). Maybe I am the only human alive who can control who they are attracted to but I definitely can control it (without effort). I am now 17 btw.

 

[YowYan]

I can see that you do not know how to read. So I'll kindly point it out for you



The only ignorance that I see is your limited scope on the matter. And you still haven't provided me the differences that I asked for in my previous thread. If you have but any, you can PM it to me if you'd like

Differences between "..."? I don't recall the other thread.

 

[HadouKage]

Differences between "..."? I don't recall the other thread.

Between incest and homosexuality. PM it too me, don't want the God hungry mods deleting someone else's thread

 

[Professor Finesser]

You really think anyone would choose to be gay in such a world? Gay people are persecuted and in some countries are just senselessly executed, even in America they're persecuted , made fun of, and beaten.

I believe people are born with it.

 

[YowYan]

Between incest and homosexuality. PM it too me, don't want the God hungry mods deleting someone else's thread

I did reply on that thread, I just kept it briefly as it was clear that thread was made to indirectly demean homosexuality by comparing it to incest. I wasn't even gonna bother explaining the differences as to me, the topic wasn't worth discussing.

 

[BazzBee]

They were born straight ... Hormones went crazy ... Became gay...

 

[Kenotthib]

You really think anyone would choose to be gay in such a world? Gay people are persecuted and in some countries are just senselessly executed, even in America they're persecuted , made fun of, and beaten.

I believe people are born with it.

Maybe some homosexuals are persecuted in america but DEFINITELY not all. Homosexuality has had tremendous progress over the past years in people becoming more tolerant. There has been a lot of people that have got fed up with dating the opposite *** and tried switching to dating the same ***, just to see how it is(experimenting). If you have been straight all your life and never tried dating, kissing, or engaging in any sexual relations with the same *** and then you try it, and like it, then you choose to be a homosexual. Same *** ,opposite ***, you can always not care for someone, then slowly start to get to know them and become attracted to them as a result. That doesn't necessarily mean you were born that way. Don't get me wrong I'm not generalizing this notion, just saying for some cases this it what happens. I can't speak on behalf of all homosexuals just the ones I've seen and talked to.

 

[Amantius]

Omg enough of these pointless debates over homosextrualty already. I don't know if I speak for anyone else but honestly I''ve seen the same pointless shit over and over again and honeslty I surtainly don't care if you are gay keep it to your damn self no one cares if you are or you choose to be one or if you are born on. All that matters is life and how you choose to live it. Honestly with my religion and ideals I don't believe in it nor do I support it, however, you have the right to be what the duck you want to be!

 

[Kenotthib]

Omg enough of these pointless debates over homosextrualty already. I don't know if I speak for anyone else but honestly I''ve seen the same pointless shit over and over again and honeslty I surtainly don't care if you are gay keep it to your damn self no one cares if you are or you choose to be one or if you are born on. All that matters is life and how you choose to live it. Honestly with my religion and ideals I don't believe in it nor do I support it, however, you have the right to be what the duck you want to be!

They have the right to be with whoever they want just like we have the right to talk about whatever we want. If you don't like this particular topic here's a suggestion, don't read it or pay it mind.

 

[Ldude]

I know some people who were straight then later become gay....So I don't think you're necessarily born with it.

 

[HadouKage]

I did reply on that thread, I just kept it briefly as it was clear that thread was made to indirectly demean homosexuality by comparing it to incest. I wasn't even gonna bother explaining the differences as to me, the topic wasn't worth discussing.

You've done no such thing but rather work around something you couldn't explain. I won't bother though because nobody could list any significant differences beyond the obvious, not even my gay friend. So good day to you