madara>hashirama (no trolling)

[Bronze]

You're going to need to answer the full question because this was horrid.

EMS gives him extra things to use but it's not anything Hashirama can't handle with ease as he did handle him while also fighting Kurama. Now explain how anything else works on Hashirama?

you mean kyuubi that is inferior to rinnegan+mokuton? try harder.

i dont need to explain really because i have explained it long time ago.

 

[Draphsin]

Why would he want to stay under any control? He would have broken it before but he didn't and when did he? When Edo Tensei was being broken, you're actually just stating an opinion while it's fact that he only did it when Edo Tensei was being broken. That's that.

Wrong, just proved that madara didnt do it because he never had to. Kabuto wasnt restraining his power. KJabuto was letting him do whatever he wanted. Its the exact same thing as him being control of himself. I find it funny how you dont see madara's personality after all these chapters, he waits around & doesnt do things unless he has to. He had to release the binding & so he did, obvious is obvious.

 

[Erza Scarlet]

you mean kyuubi that is inferior to rinnegan+mokuton? try harder.

i dont need to explain really because i have explained it long time ago.

No because you can't give a valid reason. You lose, bye.

 

[Bronze]

No because you can't give a valid reason. You lose, bye.

until hashirama that surpasses the combined power of EMS+mokuton+rinnegan then we can talk. :bye:

 

[KingHashirama]

1-you must be an idiot. madara clearly was making an excuse so that his father can be persuaded. but hashirama fanboys are ignorant.

2-like i said before madara got away because of his brother and not because of hashirama.

3-why the hell were the senjus injured and had scratches? because they were fighting madara.

4-madara told obito that he was fighting for the DNA and not to kill hashirama. unless you're telling me obito was lying.

1. I don't see any excuses to be made.. when he clearly fights Hashirama later on.. and clearly declares him his enemy. The only idiot here is you.

2. Doesn't change the fact that Madara didn't say shit when Hashirama told him that Madara should just give up since Madara can't beat him.

3. Idk, you tell me why they are there... still doesn't change the fact Hashirama is looking from up above while MAdara is on the floor...

4. Show me where Madara told Obito that. Yea I'm telling you Obito was lying.... your the only fan who believe Obito over Madara.

 

[Erza Scarlet]

Wrong, just proved that madara didnt do it because he never had to. Kabuto wasnt restraining his power. KJabuto was letting him do whatever he wanted. Its the exact same thing as him being control of himself. I find it funny how you dont see madara's personality after all these chapters, he waits around & doesnt do things unless he has to. He had to release the binding & so he did, obvious is obvious.

Ok so he can break free from Edo Tensei when he has no one restricting him? Can you tell me what the argument was about again? I've been switching back and forth between Hashirama>/<Madara and other rubbish so is this.

until hashirama that surpasses the combined power of EMS+mokuton+rinnegan then we can talk. :bye:

Hah, Madara couldn't even win with Kurama, he's bad, Hashirama soloes, bye.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

oh man ...... both sides (hashirama and madara fans) are making good points but ...... pride kicks in and logic will soon leave the place.

 

[Draphsin]

-sigh-. If Orochimaru were to release Edo tensei.... Hashirama would need to do the seals to stay... meaning he still hasn't broken out of it. He just can't be controlled by it. Unlike Madara and others.

Stop missing the point, I never once said that this is wrong.

When Kabuto decides he wants to bind Madara..... . What is stopping Kabuto from binding him? And again by this you avoid the point that , Hashirama is on a another level..by himself.

Whats stopping kabuto from binding madara? The fact that kabuto wants to see madara's true power for himself. That will be kabuto's failure, you cant say otherwise because this is already proven fact.

Madara has always been the one who needed to catch up to him.
There is no scenario where its MAdara > Hashirama..... for the simple fact that Edo Madara doesn't count as Madara....

I dont give two sh*ts about this Madara-Hashi debate, im here to state that madara can break free from edo tensei at any time during his revival, nothing more U_U.

 

[Murasame]

@ BOld and underline...... same for Hashirama *_*



highly false. He was ALLOWED to be free. Since he was on Kabuto's side.

Hashirama is capable of resisting the bind that is times stronger then Kabuto's. That is the difference between those 2.

And why are you interfering when you do not even get the whole convo mate. the point is if Kabuto didn't let Madara roam free.. he couldn't have broken out... same for Itachi. Tobirama and Hashirama are superior in that regard.

Hence why I said it can go either way =D

Yeah I know that O_O That is why I was saying he could've broke out of Edo Tensei.
For your second sentence I never questioned anything about that so I don't why you bother bringing that up. :erm:

How do you know that? There is scans that support that he could've done it beforehand unless you have some that can disprove it?

 

[Erza Scarlet]

1. I don't see any excuses to be made.. when he clearly fights Hashirama later on.. and clearly declares him his enemy. The only idiot here is you.

2. Doesn't change the fact that Madara didn't say shit when Hashirama told him that Madara should just give up since Madara can't beat him.

3. Idk, you tell me why they are there... still doesn't change the fact Hashirama is looking from up above while MAdara is on the floor...

4. Show me where Madara told Obito that. Yea I'm telling you Obito was lying.... your the only fan who believe Obito over Madara.

@ 3, Madara also had just as many Uchiha as help so that's no excuse...

 

[Kronnic]

LMFAO!!!
Thanks Captain Obvious but I think this thread has been made over 100 times..

 

[Draphsin]

Ok so he can break free from Edo Tensei when he has no one restricting him? Can you tell me what the argument was about again? I've been switching back and forth between Hashirama>/<Madara and other rubbish so is this.

@Bold: Yes

The argument was about whether madara can break free of edo whenever he wants. He can given he is not bound by edo beforehand.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hence why I said it can go either way =D
Yeah I know that O_O That is why I was saying he could've broke out of Edo Tensei.
For your second sentence I never questioned anything about that so I don't why you bother bringing that up. :erm:
How do you know that? There is scans that support that he could've done it beforehand unless you have some that can disprove it?

Breaking beforehand doesn't put him on Hashirama's level..... This is what we are talking about. Madara's comparison to Hashirama's......

Stop missing the point, I never once said that this is wrong.
Whats stopping kabuto from binding madara? The fact that kabuto wants to see madara's true power for himself. That will be kabuto's failure, you cant say otherwise because this is already proven fact.
I dont give two sh*ts about this Madara-Hashi debate, im here to state that madara can break free from edo tensei at any time during his revival, nothing more U_U.

Well yea everyone knows that he could've broken out.. but your not understanding that if he could've broken out.. it would've been only because Kabuto didn't bind him... And tell me what is stopping Kabuto from binding him then?

 

[Bronze]

1. I don't see any excuses to be made.. when he clearly fights Hashirama later on.. and clearly declares him his enemy. The only idiot here is you.

2. Doesn't change the fact that Madara didn't say shit when Hashirama told him that Madara should just give up since Madara can't beat him.

3. Idk, you tell me why they are there... still doesn't change the fact Hashirama is looking from up above while MAdara is on the floor...

4. Show me where Madara told Obito that. Yea I'm telling you Obito was lying.... your the only fan who believe Obito over Madara.

1-you just said it yourself. madara upon waking his sharingan declared that hashirama is his enemy, so before that he was making an excuse for his father to believe when hashirama wasnt really stronger.

2-nope madara is a good brother. he wanted to take his injured brother to safe place.

3-yeah if hashirama was above then he wouldnt need countless senjus helping fighting madara. how do i tells? we saw senjus injured and standing next to madara.

4-who taught obito knowledge and power? madara. why did obito said that? madara told him. manga fact.

Hah, Madara couldn't even win with Kurama, he's bad, Hashirama soloes, bye.

which are all inferior to the combined power of EMS+RINNEGAN+MOKUTON.:bye:

 

[Erza Scarlet]

@Bold: Yes

The argument was about whether madara can break free of edo whenever he wants. He can given he is not bound by edo beforehand.

Well sure, I thought this turned into a argument of Madara being as good as Hashirama because he broke free of Edo Tensei...

1-you just said it yourself. madara upon waking his sharingan declared that hashirama is his enemy, so before that he was making an excuse for his father to believe when hashirama wasnt really stronger.

2-nope madara is a good brother. he wanted to take his injured brother to safe place.

3-yeah if hashirama was above then he wouldnt need countless senjus helping fighting madara. how do i tells? we saw senjus injured and standing next to madara.

4-who taught obito knowledge and power? madara. why did obito said that? madara told him. manga fact.



which are all inferior to the combined power of EMS+RINNEGAN+MOKUTON.:bye:

Tell me how they're inferior?

 

[Draphsin]

Well yea everyone knows that he could've broken out.. but your not understanding that if he could've broken out.. it would've been only because Kabuto didn't bind him... And tell me what is stopping Kabuto from binding him then?

@Bold: I thought I already said why.

Whats stopping kabuto from binding madara? The fact that kabuto wants to see madara's true power for himself. That will be kabuto's failure, you cant say otherwise because this is already proven fact.

Well sure, I thought this turned into a argument of Madara being as good as Hashirama because he broke free of Edo Tensei...

Honestly i couldnt care less about who is stronger, we'll most likely find out next chapter.

 

[Murasame]

Breaking beforehand doesn't put him on Hashirama's level..... This is what we are talking about. Madara's comparison to Hashirama's......

Never said it did? O_O Point is he could've break out if he wanted to even if he didn't use his willpower like Hashirama did.. its still breaking out nonetheless. But if you use this as proof that Edo Hashirama>Edo Madara then idk just don't complain when you're wrong.

 

[Erza Scarlet]

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Kurama isn't Madara's prime. That's all.

Rinnegan's strongest technique (CT) was broken out of by a 50% 8 tailed Kyuubi, and a 50% 6 tailed Kyuubi withstood and attack through a Shinra Tensei. Mokuton doesn't even count against Hashirama, it wont even do a thing or please explain how it would.

The way you fanboy Madara when he's a Edo and has stolen abilities... also saying his prime while alive was with Kurama. If you want to start that then Hashirama can use his tailed beast as he can control them as well.

 

[KingHashirama]

Never said it did? O_O Point is he could've break out if he wanted to even if he didn't use his willpower like Hashirama did.. its still breaking out nonetheless. But if you use this as proof that Edo Hashirama>Edo Madara then idk just don't complain when you're wrong.

Then why did you bother posting a reply to my other post, that was about Madara's breaking of edo Tensei doesn't = Hashirama just resisting edo tensei.

. I have no cares which ever turns out to be stronger.. I have already stated this countless times that Edo Madara would most likely be the one to win the battle, since Madara has yet to use his trump card.

1-you just said it yourself. madara upon waking his sharingan declared that hashirama is his enemy, so before that he was making an excuse for his father to believe when hashirama wasnt really stronger.

2-nope madara is a good brother. he wanted to take his injured brother to safe place.

3-yeah if hashirama was above then he wouldnt need countless senjus helping fighting madara. how do i tells? we saw senjus injured and standing next to madara.

4-who taught obito knowledge and power? madara. why did obito said that? madara told him. manga fact.



which are all inferior to the combined power of EMS+RINNEGAN+MOKUTON.:bye:

1. He had already awakened it was about to show to madara. ^_^. Nope he flat out said Hashirama is stronger, stop being a idiotic fanboy mate.

2. He didn't refute Hashirama's declaration.. =]. And oh yes his brother (who was on pars with him) got fodderized by Tobirama who was weaker then Hashirama.

3. They "countless" senju haven't been stated to be involved in the battle, so far its your assumption.

4. SHOW ME WHERE MADARA TOLD HIM THAT. If Madara really told him that it would've been shown. Everything Madara told Obito was shown.... I did not see anything about him only fighting for dna stated by Madara. You know why? cause that is idiotic. OH ALSO ITS A MANGA FACT THAT MADARA STATED THAT HE ESCAPED DEATH.... meaning he lost.

 

[GOD2U]

Only Edo madara is better than non Edo hashirama. All edos are equal though.