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Yes that is easy fact:
Now: Madara+Rinnegan+EMS>Hashirama
Before: Madara+EMS<Hashirama:cool:
 

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lol, no he isn't.

OT: When Madara shows something to beat the Buddha then he'll be stronger than Hashirama. Until then. Hashirama>Madara

I said more powerful than his EMS self. Firs, he has rinnegan, which is a lot of power alone. He has hashirama's DNA and mokuton to a level that he can use mokuton jukai koutan and hashirama's wood dragon. He can use the rinnegan jutsu, Tengai shinsei, right?
So current madara>>> EMS madara(when he fought hashirama). Plus, madara still has his old techniques.
I don't know it's enough to beat hashirama, but I think that tengai shinsei plus PS plus jukai koutan and wood dragon should be enough to tank Senpou mokuton shinsuusenju.
 

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OT: When Madara shows something to beat the Buddha then he'll be stronger than Hashirama. Until then. Hashirama>Madara
don't compare buddha with any one bro.buddas' vision is not harm any one.buddha is not super hero.
 

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It's stronger then buddah, deal with it :rolleyes:

All I saw in your post was. "I can't prove you wrong"

-Madara stated PS is his strongest technique, that means its above meteor, and Buddha is above PS.
-PS destroys Mountain Ranges. Meteor doesn't come close to that level of power.
-Buddha clashed with 12 PS bladedamas and still managed to break open Madara's Susanoo, Meteor doesn't come close to that level of power.
-Meteors stacked on top of each other are probably near the size of a Mountain. Buddha dwarfs Mountains.

If anyone needs to deal with it, its you.
 

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its stated in the manga that madara is much stronger than hashirama/edo hashirama.

madara is a complete rikudou with 100% eyes and body while hashirama is only 50%.

EMS+Mokuton+Rinnegan>>>>Mokuton+SM.

so yeah madara>hashirama.
 

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Wrong, Hashirama broke free at around 80% power WITH just sheer force, Madara who was modified to be stronger only broke free when the Edo Tensei was being released.

Lol my point is that madara had the power to break free at any moment! Kabuto was never REALLY in control of madara!!! Because when he was supposed to die he brooke free at will!
 

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All I saw in your post was. "I can't prove you wrong"

-Madara stated PS is his strongest technique, that means its above meteor, and Buddha is above PS.
-PS destroys Mountain Ranges. Meteor doesn't come close to that level of power.
-Buddha clashed with 12 PS bladedamas and still managed to break open Madara's Susanoo, Meteor doesn't come close to that level of power.
-Meteors stacked on top of each other are probably near the size of a Mountain. Buddha dwarfs Mountains.

If anyone needs to deal with it, its you.

This and don't forget 1k hands is bigger than the Juubi.
 

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All I saw in your post was. "I can't prove you wrong"

-Madara stated PS is his strongest technique, that means its above meteor, and Buddha is above PS.
-PS destroys Mountain Ranges. Meteor doesn't come close to that level of power.
-Buddha clashed with 12 PS bladedamas and still managed to break open Madara's Susanoo, Meteor doesn't come close to that level of power.
-Meteors stacked on top of each other are probably near the size of a Mountain. Buddha dwarfs Mountains.

If anyone needs to deal with it, its you.

ahahahahaha that stupid Meteor destroyed a whole landscape and you going on about mountains wtf.
Where did Madara state that PS is > then Meteor, evidence pls.

Size of a Moutain yea right :rolleyes:

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Lol my point is that madara had the power to break free at any moment! Kabuto was never REALLY in control of madara!!! Because when he was supposed to die he brooke free at will!

Madara broke free when Edo Tensei was being released... it's not the same.

its stated in the manga that madara is much stronger than hashirama/edo hashirama.

madara is a complete rikudou with 100% eyes and body while hashirama is only 50%.

EMS+Mokuton+Rinnegan>>>>Mokuton+SM.

so yeah madara>hashirama.

Never was stated.

Edit: You're just a Madara fanboy, you should be banned from all Madara discussions because you're instantly on his side even when he loses.

ahahahahaha that stupid Meteor destroyed a whole landscape and you going on about mountains wtf.
Where did Madara state that PS is > then Meteor, evidence pls.

Size of a Moutain yea right :rolleyes:

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I believe if you read correctly, KidGamer65 said that Madara said PS is his strongest technique meaning it's better than the meteor.
 
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I said more powerful than his EMS self. Firs, he has rinnegan, which is a lot of power alone. He has hashirama's DNA and mokuton to a level that he can use mokuton jukai koutan and hashirama's wood dragon. He can use the rinnegan jutsu, Tengai shinsei, right?
So current madara>>> EMS madara(when he fought hashirama). Plus, madara still has his old techniques.
I don't know it's enough to beat hashirama, but I think that tengai shinsei plus PS plus jukai koutan and wood dragon should be enough to tank Senpou mokuton shinsuusenju.

You said WAY more poweful, which is obviously false. Half the stuff you mentioned doesn't even matter.

-Meteors are inferior to the Buddha.
-All of Madara's Mokuton is inferior to the Buddha and Hashirama's Mokuton while in Sage Mode (Sage Mode boosts Ninjutsu, Taijutsu and Genjutsu)
-He has shown no Rinnegan feats as of now bar Preta Path and Tengai Shinsei.

lol, Edo Madara is not WAY more powerful than EMS Madara. More techs don't make you stronger. Getting stronger techs makes you stronger.

Wood Dragon, Jukai Kotan and Meteors are fodder to Shinsuusenju and will have no effect on the outcome of a clash between PS and Shinsuusenju, which results in the buddha's victory.
 

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I believe if you read correctly, KidGamer65 said that Madara said PS is his strongest technique meaning it's better than the meteor.

Yea but I don't recall Madara saying that PS > Meteor, so I don't give a crap what KidGamer65 says :)
 

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Madara broke free when Edo Tensei was being released... it's not the same.

Not true, madara broke free because kabuto gave him zero restraint. Same situation with oro & hashi, revived with almost full power, so he is able to break free. The only difference between them is the method in which they severed the control. Hashi used his steroids & madara used tobi's handsigns.

But he could still break free whenever he wanted.
 

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Not true, madara broke free because kabuto gave him zero restraint. Same situation with oro & hashi, revived with almost full power, so he is able to break free. The only difference between them is the method in which they severed the control. Hashi used his steroids & madara used tobi's handsigns.

But he could still break free whenever he wanted.

I don't see how it's not true, in that post I said Madara broke free when Edo Tensei was being released which in fact is true.

Also was it ever stated that he could have broken free at any time? He also has never shown that he can at anytime.

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''You have been completed beyond what you were in your prime''

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How does any of that state Madara > Hashirama?

This instantly proves you're a biased fanboy.

Edit: Being beyond his prime doesn't mean he's better than Hashirama. All he said was that he wanted to fight Hashirama BEFORE becoming the ten tails host.

Him in his prime without Kurama is nothing against Hashirama, he needed Kurama in his prime to make Hashirama actually try.
 
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ahahahahaha that stupid Meteor destroyed a whole landscape and you going on about mountains wtf.
Where did Madara state that PS is > then Meteor, evidence pls.

Size of a Moutain yea right :rolleyes:

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My god, Meteor destroyed the field they were fighting in. PS destroyed the field they were fighting in along with two distant Mountains and the area they were located in.

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Madara's full power=PS meaning its stronger than the meteor.

This is roughly the size of one of your precious meteors compared to PS.

Both of them on top of each other would be near the size of a Mountain as PS is as tall as a Mountain (Somewhere around there)

Statements and feats put PS far above the meteor.
 

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Let me add Edo Hashirama is weaker than himself when was alive. Although...until Madara actually beats Hashirama, Hashirama is superior. Imho though, I believe Madara to be superior.
 
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its obvious...
edo madara>>edo hashirama, everyone knows it...

ps, i like hashirama better.!!
 
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