Detailing Sasuke's current "level" of power

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It is important to understand how Sasuke's character is being developed power-wise. The development so far has been "disappointing" to many, but it can be summed up to suspense on the part of the author. He doesn't want to put all his eggs in one basket.

It is generally assumed that Sasuke is still the "old" Sasuke that possessed a Kaleidoscope Sharingan, prior to transplanting Itachi's eyes.

This, is a gross misrepresentation that defies story logic.

The purpose of Naruto mastering the Kyubi's chakra, was to be able to be victorious against Sasuke in their next battle, as well as the fact that the Kyubi was his birthright. The purpose of Sasuke transplanting Itachi's eyes, was for very much the same reason. But of these had a "completion" aspect.
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Naruto himself stated that he had gotten stronger since battling Pain in Konohagakure, where he had mastered Sage mode. Sasuke on the other hand, is so far written to be at this level of power, as the similarities would show:
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Naruto's old "Rikudo mode" is closer to Sasuke's old Susanoo, only now, these states serve to amplify their older powers. Naruto's elemental jutsu Wind Style: Rasenshuriken benefits from the Kyubi chakra, while Sasuke's elemental jutsu Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi benefits from the Susanoo. In addition, both now have smaller-scale powers that they never had prior.
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Sasuke's next step in power, would be his Yamabushi-class Susanoo, which Kishimoto is keeping under wraps for the most part. Why? Suspense. We've already seen what Naruto's Kyubi transformation is capable of: it's the Kyubi. But have never seen a Yamabushi-class Susanoo up against a proper enemy. The only hint of it's offensive power was when it caused a shockwave just from throwing Zetsu at the ceiling.
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Beyond that, Minato still has to give Naruto the final Kyubi chakra to complete the transformation, while Sasuke may be given the "true" [Perfect] Susanoo to coincide.
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Naruto I believe, will have another element benefit when he gains the last Kyubi chakra. I'm not sure how Kishimoto would handle perfect Susanoo and Sasuke, besides possibly giving it wings to go along with the Karasu tengu imagery or more Amaterasu-based blades.

Thus, Kishimoto has several opportunities:
1] Detail the power of the Yamabush-class Susanoo
2] Detail the power of the finished Kyubi transformation
3] Detail the power of the finished Susanoo
4] Detail ways in which these two powers work together; "Yin and Yang"; "Izanagi and Izanami"
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I mean, isn't it obvious that Sasuke is stronger than what the readers are led to believe?

EMS still hasn't been properly shown.
 

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We dont know nothing about the EMS. only that the kages where beated in a milli second after madara get somewhat ''serious''

Kishi is waiting with this Ems powers for a long time.
 

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Mere looking at your avatar and sig I could tell your a hard core sasuke fan.
 

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The god of shinobi was the only one capable of beating the first EMS user.
You had to be crazy to think that EMS isnt a MAJOR powerup from regular MS.

Otherwise Izuna would have gave Hashirama a run for his money too..but he didnt even stand a chance against Tobirama.
 

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Nicely put man, hope it will open some eyes
 

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Nice way to put it man....i personally think the next power-up for Sasuke through the EMS is Time Manipulation.
 

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It is important to understand how Sasuke's character is being developed power-wise. The development so far has been "disappointing" to many, but it can be summed up to suspense on the part of the author. He doesn't want to put all his eggs in one basket.

It is generally assumed that Sasuke is still the "old" Sasuke that possessed a Kaleidoscope Sharingan, prior to transplanting Itachi's eyes.

This, is a gross misrepresentation that defies story logic.

The purpose of Naruto mastering the Kyubi's chakra, was to be able to be victorious against Sasuke in their next battle, as well as the fact that the Kyubi was his birthright. The purpose of Sasuke transplanting Itachi's eyes, was for very much the same reason. But of these had a "completion" aspect.
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Naruto himself stated that he had gotten stronger since battling Pain in Konohagakure, where he had mastered Sage mode. Sasuke on the other hand, is so far written to be at this level of power, as the similarities would show:
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Naruto's old "Rikudo mode" is closer to Sasuke's old Susanoo, only now, these states serve to amplify their older powers. Naruto's elemental jutsu Wind Style: Rasenshuriken benefits from the Kyubi chakra, while Sasuke's elemental jutsu Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi benefits from the Susanoo. In addition, both now have smaller-scale powers that they never had prior.
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Sasuke's next step in power, would be his Yamabushi-class Susanoo, which Kishimoto is keeping under wraps for the most part. Why? Suspense. We've already seen what Naruto's Kyubi transformation is capable of: it's the Kyubi. But have never seen a Yamabushi-class Susanoo up against a proper enemy. The only hint of it's offensive power was when it caused a shockwave just from throwing Zetsu at the ceiling.
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Beyond that, Minato still has to give Naruto the final Kyubi chakra to complete the transformation, while Sasuke may be given the "true" [Perfect] Susanoo to coincide.
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Naruto I believe, will have another element benefit when he gains the last Kyubi chakra. I'm not sure how Kishimoto would handle perfect Susanoo and Sasuke, besides possibly giving it wings to go along with the Karasu tengu imagery or more Amaterasu-based blades.

Thus, Kishimoto has several opportunities:
1] Detail the power of the Yamabush-class Susanoo
2] Detail the power of the finished Kyubi transformation
3] Detail the power of the finished Susanoo
4] Detail ways in which these two powers work together; "Yin and Yang"; "Izanagi and Izanami"
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First naruto didn't get his wind elemental chakara from the kiyubi.....if so give prove
 

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It is important to understand how Sasuke's character is being developed power-wise. The development so far has been "disappointing" to many, but it can be summed up to suspense on the part of the author. He doesn't want to put all his eggs in one basket.

It is generally assumed that Sasuke is still the "old" Sasuke that possessed a Kaleidoscope Sharingan, prior to transplanting Itachi's eyes.

This, is a gross misrepresentation that defies story logic.

The purpose of Naruto mastering the Kyubi's chakra, was to be able to be victorious against Sasuke in their next battle, as well as the fact that the Kyubi was his birthright. The purpose of Sasuke transplanting Itachi's eyes, was for very much the same reason. But of these had a "completion" aspect.
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Naruto himself stated that he had gotten stronger since battling Pain in Konohagakure, where he had mastered Sage mode. Sasuke on the other hand, is so far written to be at this level of power, as the similarities would show:
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Naruto's old "Rikudo mode" is closer to Sasuke's old Susanoo, only now, these states serve to amplify their older powers. Naruto's elemental jutsu Wind Style: Rasenshuriken benefits from the Kyubi chakra, while Sasuke's elemental jutsu Enton: Kagu-Tsuchi benefits from the Susanoo. In addition, both now have smaller-scale powers that they never had prior.
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Sasuke's next step in power, would be his Yamabushi-class Susanoo, which Kishimoto is keeping under wraps for the most part. Why? Suspense. We've already seen what Naruto's Kyubi transformation is capable of: it's the Kyubi. But have never seen a Yamabushi-class Susanoo up against a proper enemy. The only hint of it's offensive power was when it caused a shockwave just from throwing Zetsu at the ceiling.
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Beyond that, Minato still has to give Naruto the final Kyubi chakra to complete the transformation, while Sasuke may be given the "true" [Perfect] Susanoo to coincide.
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Naruto I believe, will have another element benefit when he gains the last Kyubi chakra. I'm not sure how Kishimoto would handle perfect Susanoo and Sasuke, besides possibly giving it wings to go along with the Karasu tengu imagery or more Amaterasu-based blades.

Thus, Kishimoto has several opportunities:
1] Detail the power of the Yamabush-class Susanoo
2] Detail the power of the finished Kyubi transformation
3] Detail the power of the finished Susanoo
4] Detail ways in which these two powers work together; "Yin and Yang"; "Izanagi and Izanami"
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First naruto didn't get his wind elemental chakara from the kiyubi.....if so give prove
 

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I personally believe Sasuke will get two huge power-ups that will help him rival anything Naruto gets (Which I believe to be the other half+Rinnegan).

First off, obviously Perfect Susanoo. I am under the firm belief he will gain it due to it being a prerequisite of the EMS. The only other EMS user has it, why wouldn't the rival to the main character have it?

Second is a toss-up. Rumors of time manipulation may be true, which is probably the most haxed ability to date. It would be similar to how Itachi manipulates time in Tsukuyomi. Here's the concept: Sasuke is a master of Enton which is the "physical" manifestation of the two abilities granted by the Two MS, whereas Tsukuyomi is the "illusionary of the two", which Itachi specialized in. He can manipulate time in that "illusion world" whereas Sasuke specialized in the manipulation of the physical amalgamation; Amaterasu. It is in the entire realm of possibility that this physical manipulation will allow him to manipulate the constraints of time and space around him (Different from S/T ninjutsu as it is done purely through the Dojutsu) which will counteract Naruto's obvious speed enhancements.
 

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I think he might be on par with Naruto if he gets Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror.

I'm surprised Itachi didn't leave it with Sasuke.
 

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More leaning towards Masashi highlighting the Yamabushi type Susano'o' ; the other half of the Kyuubi's may as well go towards chakra pools, striking out certain limitations [ ] but there is also the possibility of it detailing the finished Kyuubi transformation. Doubt Sasuke will get his hands on Dai Tengu when he has yet to possess a full body Susano'o' [working with the premise that it is gained through mastery].
 

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having an eye that would never go blind, and change in susano,amaterasu arrow and orb what other powerup are people waiting for.they(sasuke fanboys),can't bear the thought of naruto being more powerful than sasuke jeeez. sasuke will get a special power with is ems no need to compare him with madara and perfect susanoo etc chillax
 

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having an eye that would never go blind, and change in susano,amaterasu arrow and orb what other powerup are people waiting for.they(sasuke fanboys),can't bear the thought of naruto being more powerful than sasuke jeeez. sasuke will get a special power with is ems no need to compare him with madara and perfect susanoo etc chillax
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It is inevitable that readers compare him to Madara. The manga itself made those comparisons before readers even knew who Madara was.
 

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Well yeah... It's quite obvious that Kishi is holding back Sasuke for something big. He hasn't went "all out" since Danzo, ever since then he's been overshadowed by everyone and took the backseat. First with Itachi and Kabuto, then with Orochimaru and The Hokages and now with Juubito, and Madara.

He's definitely got a few tricks up his sleeves. Personally, I don't think he'll get a "new eye" or "new form" or anything like that. His major "power up" will be him using the EMS to its fullest potential which would contain the following

Perfect Susanno - Self explanatory.
Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade - While just speculation, I do think it's probable that Itachi left the weapons with him before he left as an Edo. Besides Sasuke has Itachi's eyes.
Unique EMS Power - We all know a unique Jutsu is born with EMS.
 

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Well said, wish every Sasuke fanboy would be like you (not assuming you are but he's probably your favorite character).
+ Rep for this awesome thread, didn't find any biaised claims or ''solo'' bs, however I doubt he will get a Perfect Susanoo in this arc but I won't be surprised if it does.
 

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Isn't perfect susanoo madara's final susanoo and sasuke already has one so he's not getting one either
 
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