[Predictions] Naruto Chapter 639 Prediction : "Counter attack"

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What are you talking about ? give me your prediction so that i can see.

Edit: I've seen it , and you call that a prediction ? loooool , and it has nothing to do with mine , it's just that you gave me neg rep , cause i gave you neg rep about your prediction.
the one about naruto and sasuke was just fanfic, im talking about the get on floor everyone walk dinosaur one, im only talking about the part where obito looks at naruto and naruto asks why he is looking at him and where obito says sage.

i will not vote you down after all, realised that it is stupid :p sorry for the trouble
 

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im talking about the get on floor everyone walk dinosaur one, im only talking about the part where obito looks at naruto and naruto asks why he is looking at him and where obito says sage.
Well it's logical cause Naruto has the Bijuu's chakra in him.

i will not vote you down after all, realised that it is stupid :p sorry for the trouble
Thanks i guess.
 

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its not a logical cause for juubito to call him sage.
Well the sage was Juubi Jinchurki , and Naruto is the Kyuubi Jinchurki and has the other Bijuu's chakra in him , so there is a connection between him and the Rikudo here.

im gonna leave you alone now. sorry again
Thanks for being polite , and sorry for earlier , i was a bit aggressive.
 

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No problem. And for the whole "Naruto-Rinnegan" thing, I have an extremely refined theory that I will post in the coming little while that may persuade you. I'll gladly rep you for this prediction though.
You may in fact persuade me but to me Naruto with the Rinnegan is more than Overkill ,no matter what power up Sasuke get , he won't even come close to a Naruto with Rinnegan.
And Kishi said that they are like Yin and Yang , if i gives a power up to Naruto , i must think of something to Sasuke.
 

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You may in fact persuade me but to me Naruto with the Rinnegan is more than Overkill ,no matter what power up Sasuke get , he won't even come close to a Naruto with Rinnegan.
And Kishi said that they are like Yin and Yang , if i gives a power up to Naruto , i must think of something to Sasuke.
I disagree and I have come up with an idea for Sasuke.

We've seen that Perfect Susanoo trumps anything the Rinnegan offers. Let's analyze.

Asura grants multiple appendages: Perfect Susanoo already does that but on a larger and more destructive scale (Hell, all Susanoo have multiple appendages)

Deva grants gravity manipulation: This has to do with force. The force of Perfect Susanoo's (Sasuke will probably have a massive Enton sword) is equal if not stronger than any seen Shinra Tensei. It's possible because Naruto has BM Mode, his will be the strongest seen, but the sheer shockwave of a strike from PS' blade was enough to slice the top of a mountain Range; display of massive force.

Naraka Path which lets you control life and death: Absolute non-factor in their fight since this is a one on one.

Animal Path: All summonings are fodder to the Perfect Susanoo.

Human Path: Just like Hashi vs Madara, this is a battle of Monster techniques. Unless it ends up like the end of Hashi vs Madara where they have one last Taijutsu clash, they will never be close enough to use said technique. And odds are, their final clash in the fight will be reminiscent of their last battle; Chidori vs Rasengan.

Preta Path: This is probably the most threatening of the paths, but we've never seen anyone attempt to absorb Amaterasu (Ex; Samehada who can absorb chakra). Even though Susanoo is a chakra construct, it would take far too long for Naruto, or any Rinnegan user to absorb it in time before the Susanoo user kills them with another technique.

This isn't even taking into account Sasuke's mastery with Enton. Odds are, Sasuke will create different techniques with it like Hashirama did with Mokuton.

While the Rinnegan seems completely OP for Naruto on paper, further analysis proves that it is less than what it seems.
 

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Asura grants multiple appendages: Perfect Susanoo already does that but on a larger and more destructive scale (Hell, all Susanoo have multiple appendages)

Deva grants gravity manipulation: This has to do with force. The force of Perfect Susanoo's (Sasuke will probably have a massive Enton sword) is equal if not stronger than any seen Shinra Tensei. It's possible because Naruto has BM Mode, his will be the strongest seen, but the sheer shockwave of a strike from PS' blade was enough to slice the top of a mountain Range; display of massive force.

Naraka Path which lets you control life and death: Absolute non-factor in their fight since this is a one on one.

Animal Path: All summonings are fodder to the Perfect Susanoo.

Human Path: Just like Hashi vs Madara, this is a battle of Monster techniques. Unless it ends up like the end of Hashi vs Madara where they have one last Taijutsu clash, they will never be close enough to use said technique. And odds are, their final clash in the fight will be reminiscent of their last battle; Chidori vs Rasengan.

Preta Path: This is probably the most threatening of the paths, but we've never seen anyone attempt to absorb Amaterasu (Ex; Samehada who can absorb chakra). Even though Susanoo is a chakra construct, it would take far too long for Naruto, or any Rinnegan user to absorb it in time before the Susanoo user kills them with another technique.

You forgot something really important my friend and that is the Kyuubi chakra.

Now if a portion of Kyuubi chakra enhance Kakash's Kamui to the point where he can teleport a bijuu instead of object and people , then what this portion can do to Rinnegan powers ?
And it get worse cause Naruto will be using a 100 % Kyuubi chakra to enhance the Rinnegan powers.

Remember the Super Shinra Tensei that erased Konoha ? That was with an Uzumaki chakra , but with the most powerful Bijuu's Chakra it may even erase a country.

Same goes to the other powers including Pretha path.

And besides Naruto with Rinnegan will become a Rikudo which means both body and eyes, while Sasuke will stay only eyes (which are inferior to Rinnegan. )
 

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You forgot something really important my friend and that is the Kyuubi chakra.

Now if a portion of Kyuubi chakra enhance Kakash's Kamui to the point where he can teleport a bijuu instead of object and people , then what this portion can do to Rinnegan powers ?
And it get worse cause Naruto will be using a 100 % Kyuubi chakra to enhance the Rinnegan powers.

Remember the Super Shinra Tensei that erased Konoha ? That was with an Uzumaki chakra , but with the most powerful Bijuu's Chakra it may even erase a country.

Same goes to the other powers including Pretha path.

And besides Naruto with Rinnegan will become a Rikudo which means both body and eyes, while Sasuke will stay only eyes (which are inferior to Rinnegan. )
Very true. I'm just going to stay open minded at this point. I debunked the whole "Eyes-Body" parallel a while ago. It doesn't apply anymore.

Something that irks me; why did this thread get one starred? It's a good prediction!

On another note; You just gave me an idea for a new thread. "How strong would a Chou Shinra Tensei be coming from 100% BM Naruto w/ Rinnegan".
 

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Very true. I'm just going to stay open minded at this point. I debunked the whole "Eyes-Body" parallel a while ago. It doesn't apply anymore.
Not only that , Naruto will be Body , Eyes and Bijuu.
Something that irks me; why did this thread get one starred? It's a good prediction!
What vote are you talking about ? i didn't see any O__O



On another note; You just gave me an idea for a new thread. "How strong would a Chou Shinra Tensei be coming from 100% BM Naruto w/ Rinnegan".
You are welcome :)


EDIT:

Also, I'll vote it 5 stars to improve the rating.
Thanks but how can you vote ?
 
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Well technically, the Bijuu part complies under both the Body and Rikudou. The eyes-body parallel thing is taken way out of context and only applies to Hashirama and Madara because they are both pure descendants of the clans, whereas Naruto is not a Senju. It's illogical to believe a parallel should prohibit a person from some kind of power-up.

And the voting thing, I mean the threads starring. People vote up or vote down the thread based on preference. Someone voted it one star and I voted it up 5 stars and it balanced it to a 3 star.
 

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And the voting thing, I mean the threads starring. People vote up or vote down the thread based on preference. Someone voted it one star and I voted it up 5 stars and it balanced it to a 3 star.
I see , thank you again.


Well technically, the Bijuu part complies under both the Body and Rikudou. The eyes-body parallel thing is taken way out of context and only applies to Hashirama and Madara because they are both pure descendants of the clans, whereas Naruto is not a Senju. It's illogical to believe a parallel should prohibit a person from some kind of power-up.
Although the Rikudo being an Uzumaki seems plausible , we still aren't 100 % sure about it , Plus the recent chapter proved that being Juubi Jinchuriki doesn't give you Rinnegan , granted it still an imperfect Juubi but still it safe to assume that the Rikudo had the Rinnegan before fighting the Juubi.

So with that logic we can conclude that Rikudo had the power of Body and Eyes before the Juubi and when he became a Jinchruki , he gained a 3rd power : the Bijuu.

And in the case of Naruto gaining the Rinnegan , then the only way for Sasuke to rival Naruto is by gaining the Senju DNA and therefore Rinnegan.

But the problem here is that we will end up with two Rikudo and two Rinnegan users ( which is supposed to be rare ).
 
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I'd vote it 5 if I were you. It'll probably bring it to 5 stars.

And Sasuke doesn't have the reserves for it at all. Only people that can host the Rinnegan through sheer reserves: Hashirama, Madara, Naruto, Nagato and presumably Rikudou.

Besides, the three "saviors" that have been noted are Rikudou, Nagato and Naruto. Two of them have the Rinnegan. It's a trend that will probably continue with the true savior; Naruto.

On another side note, I like having civilized discussion with you. XD
 

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I'd vote it 5 if I were you. It'll probably bring it to 5 stars.
Can i vote my prediction ?

And Sasuke doesn't have the reserves for it at all. Only people that can host the Rinnegan through sheer reserves: Hashirama, Madara, Naruto, Nagato and presumably Rikudou.
Let me explain you something :
Chakra is a melange of spiritual energy and physical energy.

So as you grows up , you Chakra reserve grows up as well , cause as you grows up your body become stronger.

Sasuke was stated to have a great chakra reserve by Kakashi in the FG ( granted not as much as Naruto but still )

As he grows up he become more and more powerful , he even had 3.5 in stamina in the databook of early Shippuden.

Heck even Kyuubi compared his chakra to Madara.

And since he got his EMS, the guy is spamming the shit out of Susanoo and Amaterasu ( not to mention the summoning , chidori variant and genjutsu he used since he appeared ) and he still looks fresh.

And by gaining Senju DNA , it will enhance his physical strength even more and therefore more Chakra reserve.


On another side note, I like having civilized discussion with you.
Same here. :)

Besides, the three "saviors" that have been noted are Rikudou, Nagato and Naruto. Two of them have the Rinnegan. It's a trend that will probably continue with the true savior; Naruto.
Yea but if that is true , it will throw the Elder and younger son , Hate-love situation to the window.
 
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Can i vote my prediction ?
Yes you can.

Heck even Kyuubi compared his chakra to Madara.
He compared how sinister the chakra was, not the reserves :)

And by gaining Senju DNA , it will enhance his physical strength even more and therefore more Chakra reserve.
While that is true, it depends on how much he gains. The reason it gave Obito such reserves was because basically half his body is made of it.

Not to mention, the Uchiha are known for their "strong" chakra, not their reserves (Similar to chakra control. Example; Madara controlle Kurama against Hashirama which takes precise chakra control when using Genjutsu but it is known that Hashirama has larger reserves)

Same here.
:yay::yay::yay:

it will throw the Elder and younger son , Hate-love situation to the window.
There was always too much emphasis on it by the fan base.

Fact is:

Naruto is not a Senju and Uzumaki's are relatives, not descendants. Being relatives and not descendants means they can't be linked through the younger son and the only other plausible link is Rikudou; meaning Naruto has a right to a Dojutsu should he get it.

This parallel only directly applies to Hashirama and Madara for the following reason:

1. Hashirama and Madara are the pure descendants of the 2 brothers.
2. They are the full incarnations of the sons; Hashirama being the peak of Mokuton (Younger Son) and Madara being the Peak of the Elder Son (EMS)
3. They actually strove for peace and that was their goal from the start. Hashirama was able to attain momentary peace because of their system.
4. Their views mirror the sons; Hashirama believed loving each villager like family was the key to peace; synonymous with love. Madara wants to subjugate the world in a genjutsu; synonymous with Power (Control complies under this criteria as well)

Neither Naruto nor Sasuke are striving for Peace. Sasuke wants to change the system that got his clan killed, that made his brother a criminal and made his best friend a Jinchuriki. Naruto wants to keep the current system and have the Bijuu's incorporated into the system as equal beings. Neither has to do with peace; just polarizing views of stability.
 
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