Who is stronger Jiraya or Orochimaru?

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Who would win if they fight?
 

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Orochimaru....

He had Jiraiya on the ropes when he became Rogue, AND when he had no arms. (His primary means of fighting, btw) WHILE having Tsunade on his team.
 

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Jiraiya. Why you ask?
 

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Orochimaru. A sweet fight would've been Orochimaru vs Pain
 

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Jiraya

- Had Sage Mode, something that other Sannins never possesed
- Said to be on Itachi's level on multiple occasions when Orochimaru was clearly weaker
- Could have beaten the invincible Pain with infos

He is clearly the strongest sannin
 

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Orochimaru is stronger with or without Edo Tensei.
 

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Orochimaru>Base Tsunade, Base Jiraiya.

But if either went into their "power up" states, they would either be able to out last Orochimaru (Tsunade) or defeat him (Jiraiya). He needs a power up himself. He'll probably just get DSM soon enough.

If Jiraiya makes it into Sage Mode, him.
 

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Orochimaru>Base Tsunade, Base Jiraiya.

But if either went into their "power up" states, they would either be able to out last Orochimaru (Tsunade) or defeat him (Jiraiya). He needs a power up himself. He'll probably just get DSM soon enough.

If Jiraiya makes it into Sage Mode, him.

Hashirama's dna isn't a power up right?*_*
 

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Orochimaru has already beat Jiraiya 2 to 0. Plus, I'm gonna use some A>B>C logic here that can be applied..


Orochimaru fought head on [for entertainment] against 4-Tailed Cloaked Naruto with no Jutsu, suffering from necrosis still and a fatal fever..... Also with no preparation time.


Jiraiya fought and tried to control Naruto at his 4-Tailed Cloak state and was almost killed, with preparation and full knowledge of Naruto's wild abilities and had countermeasures in place.

Given that, if they both were at 100%, I'd give it to Orochimaru, countless experimentation on himself plus the Immortality Jutsu gives him an upper hand over Jiraiya who unlike Tsunade & Orochimaru both has no healing capabilities.
 
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orochimaru summons edo hokages...instantly erases their own will,controls them and destroys jiraiya
 

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How is that?

Orochimaru has no counter for the Dog that the Animal Path summons.

Orochimaru has already beat Jiraiya 2 to 0. Plus, I'm gonna use some A>B>C logic here that can be applied..


Orochimaru fought head on [for entertainment] against 4-Tailed Cloaked Naruto with no Jutsu, suffering from necrosis still and a fatal fever..... Also with no preparation time.


Jiraiya fought and tried to control Naruto at his 4-Tailed Cloak state and was almost killed, with preparation and full knowledge of Naruto's wild abilities and countermeasures.

Ya, Orochimaru was trying to kill Naruto. Jiraiya was trying to sub-due him.

Drunk Lee, to be sub-dued, needed Gai and Neji to restrain him, even though Gai could have easily killed him.
 

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jiraiya wins this his sound genjutsu can get oro (maybe even the dos he summons) like it got pain he's on itachi's level and really close but oro loses
 

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Orochimaru easily considering he has Edo Tensei.
 

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Depends. honestly i think they are even. i say it can go either way.



but with Edo tensei oro stomps
 
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