[FEAR] Infinite Tsukuyomi Analysis PT3: Sage's Legacy

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This is merely a peice of a larger theory I am putting together, I am posting this for self reference purposes and to share my thoughts and get feedback. If you are truly interested in understanding the larger picture of this theory I recommend reading all the parts as they are all quite short.


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This is going to be the 4th thread in a series created for my reference as I build a bigger theory which should be finished within a week or two. I am going to answer a question begged by my prior threads, which is what role does the Sage play in all of this.

Introduction​

As I have said in my previous threads, the Moon which was created via Chibaku tensei was the first part in a 2 part jutsu similar to the 3rd Eye technique of Sungakure. But if that is the case then that would mean that the Sage had this in mind when creating the moon, which leaves the question of Why?

Chapter 1: Sage's Coded Stone Tablet

In this Chapter I am going to explain the mystery behind this Stone Tablet and reveal some truths that I have found.

First off in the scans below we see Obito bring up the Sages Tablet when introducing his EoTM Plan, the thing that interests me is how seamlessly he goes from talking about what was said on the tablet into speaking on his own Plan... Is it really his?

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Also why would the Sage make it possible to summon the Juubi or even tell people how to do it? What purpose does it serve to tell all of these secrets? What if infact the EoTM Plan is in actuality, The Sages Plan... Bare with me.

Notice the way Madara speaks about the Tablet, he tells Hashirama what it says, but then says it has a different meaning than the one Hashirama says it does:

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You see it says that the actions of these 2 Forces created all that there is in Nature, Hashirama took that to be a good thing, But...

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Madara realized that what the Sage was saying was that the World may never find peace, love begets hatred, peace begets war, light;shadow, happiness;sorrow. The only way to attain it would be to force peace on the world through the EoTM Plan.


Chapter 2: Sage's Plan​

The Sage was after world peace, and he had spent most of his live trying to find it.

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When he was near his death his death he sealed the Juubi inside of the moon after seperating its Chakra into 9 parts.

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But all the while the Sage felt that the Juubi would again be made whole

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Now before I move on I want you to remember something about culture, especially asian culture. The eldest child in the family is often associated with carrying on the parents will. Often times when a parent dies everything he owns is given to the eldest who then decides how it should be divided up amoung the other siblings if there are any. In fact in all culture in general there is somewhat of a lore that goes along with being the eldest child in the family. So then why create 2 sons in which the Sage sides with the younger son? The answer... He didn't.


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The Elder Son the, the Uchiha, believed that the best way to find peace was through Force and Power, while the Younger Son, the Senju, believed the best way to find peace was through Love and Understanding. I believe the Sage himself was reluctant of ever finding peace through love after his years of travelling the world. But he gave his younger son a chance to find it, and if he failed, then his EoTM plan would be used by the descendants of the Elder Son in order to Force Peace upon the masses using the very same Moon that he had created near his death.

Look at this Scan:

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The Uchiha Kinjutsu, ofcourse refers to the Uchiha Forbidden Jutsu.
The In'Youton Jutsu refers to the Gedo Mazou and controlling it.

So then What did he means when he said Rikoudo's Jutsu? Rinnegan Jutsu's like the Reincarnation Jutsu? No, that was reserved for Nagato anyways. It must have been more than that else, how did Obito know the Jutsu for making himself the Jinchuriki? [ ]. He was taught it by Madara, but why would the Sage pass down the knowledge of how to become the Juubi's Jinchuriki?

No no no, the Sage plays a far greater role than we know.


Conclusion​

If you really want to fully understand what I am trying to say I recommend you read all 4 threads I made in regards to this from PT 1 to PT4. This is a piece of a bigger theory that I am putting together.

Leave your thoughts on it below.

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Considering the scene with the tailed beasts, the Tailed beasts made it clear that Naruto was the one the sage was waiting for not Madara.

I doubt the Sage ever wanted the Eye of the Moon Plan, that was just Madara's invention.

Also I would like to point out that the Ten Tails saw the shadow of the Sage of 6 Paths behind Naruto not Madara.

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Ultimately, what Rikudou wanted was for his two sons to work together, as Martin Luther King Jr. said:"Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic" neither the Elder nor Younger Son was blameless, they failed to work together leading to the Senju vs Uchiha feud.
 

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Ultimately, what Rikudou wanted was for his two sons to work together, as Martin Luther King Jr. said:"Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic" neither the Elder nor Younger Son was blameless, they failed to work together leading to the Senju vs Uchiha feud.

If Madara knew this then why would he leave Konoha just as they were on the verge of peace, instead of leaving at a climactic time moments before telling his bretheren that things will never work and that they should leave.

If Madara could see this then why would he do the opposite of what the Sage was saynig, and what did he mean by the 2nd interpretation of the Sage's words?
 

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Considering the scene with the tailed beasts, the Tailed beasts made it clear that Naruto was the one the sage was waiting for not Madara.

I doubt the Sage ever wanted the Eye of the Moon Plan, that was just Madara's invention.

Also I would like to point out that the Ten Tails saw the shadow of the Sage of 6 Paths behind Naruto not Madara.
 
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Considering the scene with the tailed beasts, the Tailed beasts made it clear that Naruto was the one the sage was waiting for not Madara.

I doubt the Sage ever wanted the Eye of the Moon Plan, that was just Madara's invention.

Also I would like to point out that the Ten Tails saw the shadow of the Sage of 6 Paths behind Naruto not Madara.

Ill add this to the thread for reference because you did make a good point.

But I dont think the Part about the 10 tails seeing the Sage in Naruto is that relevant as he merely saw the remnants of the sages chakra passed down to Naruto through the combined chakra given to him by the tailed beasts.
 

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If Madara knew this then why would he leave Konoha just as they were on the verge of peace, instead of leaving at a climactic time moments before telling his bretheren that things will never work and that they should leave.

If Madara could see this then why would he do the opposite of what the Sage was saynig, and what did he mean by the 2nd interpretation of the Sage's words?

He chose to interpret it his own way, instead of two opposing forces working together in harmony, he chose to concentrate that power into a single person: namely himself.
 

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He chose to interpret it his own way, instead of two opposing forces working together in harmony, he chose to concentrate that power into a single person: namely himself.

What way did you interpret the Sages words to come to that conclusion boss x__x
 

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What way did you interpret the Sages words to come to that conclusion boss x__x
HE IS that God Madara was talking about. Rikudou's sons, Uchiha & Senju, specifically Hashirama & Madara, are supposed to be united. That was Rikudou's plan from the start. He made his two sons in order to make them work together, but instead, Juubi's evilness came over his plans and the two brothers became rivals. It was Juubi's evil from the Uchiha ancestor who triggered the revenge, and that's why peace cannot be obtained. When Uchiha & Senju were one, Rikudou, there was no hate, that's why he could achieve true peace. But he would die, and had to pass his will of peace to the future generations. That's why he made his sons, to create peace together, like Yin & Yang, but it went all wrong...
 

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Ultimately, what Rikudou wanted was for his two sons to work together, as Martin Luther King Jr. said:"Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic" neither the Elder nor Younger Son was blameless, they failed to work together leading to the Senju vs Uchiha feud.

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I find it interesting that tablet exists and it can be interpreted only with Sharingan or Rinnegan.. Possibly even the teachings of Rinnegan's jutsus.

You brought up a good theory about this case. Rikudou may been more serious than we think, not just a peace-loving hippie.
 

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HE IS that God Madara was talking about. Rikudou's sons, Uchiha & Senju, specifically Hashirama & Madara, are supposed to be united. That was Rikudou's plan from the start. He made his two sons in order to make them work together, but instead, Juubi's evilness came over his plans and the two brothers became rivals. It was Juubi's evil from the Uchiha ancestor who triggered the revenge, and that's why peace cannot be obtained. When Uchiha & Senju were one, Rikudou, there was no hate, that's why he could achieve true peace. But he would die, and had to pass his will of peace to the future generations. That's why he made his sons, to create peace together, like Yin & Yang, but it went all wrong...

There was a question stated, if that is how Madara interpretted things then why did he act contrary to that as we know his actions were based on that Rikudo's statement. Not to mention that Madara blatently tells us that there is a different interpretation, what I am saying in this thread is obviously based on Madara's interpretation and not Hashirama's.
 

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Your theory is plausible. I like the way you linked the Third Eye with Chibaku Tensei.

Now one question remains... if you created that relationship... How is that Gaara's father knows that technique too, with him not being a Jinchuuriki, that is, not being related to the Juubi?

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Reading the original post made me thought of one thing
and only one thing.

The best plot twist ever would be that Minato is Sasuke's true father.

Fugaku was just a cover up.

Some weird thought that just crossed my mind.

Overall good theory OP.
 

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Reading the original post made me thought of one thing
and only one thing.

The best plot twist ever would be that Minato is Sasuke's true father.

Fugaku was just a cover up.

Some weird thought that just crossed my mind.

Overall good theory OP.

Wait what? OMG XDDDD
 

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There was a question stated, if that is how Madara interpretted things then why did he act contrary to that as we know his actions were based on that Rikudo's statement. Not to mention that Madara blatently tells us that there is a different interpretation, what I am saying in this thread is obviously based on Madara's interpretation and not Hashirama's.
Everything that's happening now is the other interpretation. True peace cannot be achieved by uniting Yin & Yang, so has he learned after seeing the sons of Rikudou, who were fighting instead of uniting their powers. The other interpretation is to achieve peace through Mugen Tsukuyomi.
 

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Everything that's happening now is the other interpretation. True peace cannot be achieved by uniting Yin & Yang, so has he learned after seeing the sons of Rikudou, who were fighting instead of uniting their powers. The other interpretation is to achieve peace through Mugen Tsukuyomi.

As you just said "The other interpretation is to achieve peace through Mugen Tsukuyomi.", this is what my thread is stating as well... I dont understand what we disagree on. o__o?
 

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Your theory is plausible. I like the way you linked the Third Eye with Chibaku Tensei.

Now one question remains... if you created that relationship... How is that Gaara's father knows that technique too, with him not being a Jinchuuriki, that is, not being related to the Juubi?

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Ahh but the link between them isnt the Juubi but rather the technique. Hence why I refer to the Jutsu as "The 3rd Eye Technique of Sungakure". I actually posted a scan of his father using it in the PT2 or maybe PT3.

Chibaku Tensei and the 3rd Eye Technique could be linked as they are both Yin Releases and are mechanically the same. Which would make Chibaku Tensei an unfinished version of the 3rd Eye Technique, or atleast a larger scaled variation of it. The Juubi plays no real part in this.

It is actually possible that the Sage may have taught the 1st Kazekage the technique or soemthing along those lines, the same way he taught Konoha the sealing techniques, which were then shared to the other villages when hashirama shared the tailed beast hoping to form a balance of power. I never really realized that before, I think I just found the subject of my next thread LOL, although ill have to build on the idea a bit more before I make a thread about it
 
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