Stop Overrating Madara Against Juubito

[~Sovereign~]

I'll say this once, stop trying to make madara out to be more than what he really is

Just because madara has rinnegan it doesnt mean an automatic win idk this came from

Obito had rinnegan wood kamui AND 7 bijuu BEFORE madara/SA showed up (obito vs naruto/killer bee). And obito still put alot of effect into beating naruto and killer bee despite havin major advantages over them before kakashi/guy came

My point is that rinnegan is overrated WHEN ITS NOT MASTERED. Nagato is the only confirmed guy to have mastered the rinnegan and i said this countless times just because u implant/awaken an eye doesnt mean youve mastered it, nagato had YEARS of experience thats why nagato is so high on top 10 list without another ability

Now as for the fanboys that think madara can go toe to toe with juubito, this is laughable, this is basically implying that madara can fight the 10 tails 1v1 lol

Rinnegan has basically been defeated 3 times in the manga, FACT and juubito has rinnegan too, so rinnegan is practically useless for madara against juubito

As for madara's wood, if hashirama admitted to being weaker, what makes u think madara's wood will work????? fanboy logic

Then u have EMS, perfect susano is the only main worthy tech madara has left, and hashirama fought against this while he was alive so I very highly believe juubito can and definitely will beat this.

Now you have meteors, the meteor can be troublesome but the problem is that perfect susano is bigger than meteors and the juubi has tbb and more than likely unlimited chakra which is better. tbb spam>>>meteor spam

Lastly you have madara's trump card, now ill say this right away, the fact that madara is about to use his trump card right off the bat is proof that madara is relying on this to work which means madara more than likely CANT go toe to toe with juubito because if he can, he would. Would you waste a trump card if your capable of going toe to toe??? I wouldnt

Also I think madara's trump card will fail anyway, I made a thread about this too

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[~Sasuke~]

Finally, someone says something

 

[Lightbringer]

zetsu makes up half of Obito's body, without that he dies. Guess you created the zetsu body for him?

Madara has been alive for roughly a century and had time to form his master plan. Considering that he's shown to figure out how to summon and be host to the juubi, I'm sure he knows the jutsu the rikudou used to seal/defeat the juubi in the first place.

Mastery comes with the rinnegan btw. Those who possess it master any jutsu they learn.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Not saying Madara will solo no diff cuz that's def not case but Madara has chance of winning

He has infinite stamina and chakra
Rinnigan
Mokoton
Ems
Susanno full
25 Susanna clones
PS
All 5 nature elements
Yin and yang release
Metor spam (tech this if he kept doing it I think he could take everybody out)

Soo yeah he's pretty OP so I think he has a real good chance against obito

 

[Smd]

zetsu makes up half of Obito's body, without that he dies. Guess you created the zetsu body for him?

Madara has been alive for roughly a century and had time to form his master plan. Considering that he's shown to figure out how to summon and be host to the juubi, I'm sure he knows the jutsu the rikudou used to seal/defeat the juubi in the first place.

Mastery comes with the rinnegan btw. Those who possess it master any jutsu they learn.

gg thread.

bonus- obito wouldnt be alive if it wasnt for madara

 

[NarutoSamaKama]

Madara's trump card>Juubito

 

[~Sovereign~]

zetsu makes up half of Obito's body, without that he dies. Guess you created the zetsu body for him?

Madara has been alive for roughly a century and had time to form his master plan. Considering that he's shown to figure out how to summon and be host to the juubi, I'm sure he knows the jutsu the rikudou used to seal/defeat the juubi in the first place.

Mastery comes with the rinnegan btw. Those who possess it master any jutsu they learn.

if the kyuubi can heal, so can juubi


it doesn't matter how long madara planned this out, it doesn't mean it will work out perfectly

"mastery come with the rinnegan" what?????????? what kind of logic is this????????? EVERY jutsu/form/tech/style/mode has to be LEARN AND MASTERED

 

[Lightbringer]

if the kyuubi can heal, so can juubi


it doesn't matter how long madara planned this out, it doesn't mean it will work out perfectly

"mastery come with the rinnegan" what?????????? what kind of logic is this????????? EVERY jutsu/form/tech/style/mode has to be LEARN AND MASTERED

@bold: That's not logic, that's straight up manga fact

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also the kyuubi hasn't shown to heal extensively. I doubt it can heal someone who's missing half his body, nor can it heal broken/dislocated bone.

Naruto was in his Bijuu Mode and still had his shoulder dislocated; he needed Rock Lee to pop it back into place

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[~Sovereign~]

Madara's trump card>Juubito

we'll see

gg thread.

bonus- obito wouldnt be alive if it wasnt for madara

what does madara saving obito have to do with now???

madara cant go toe to toe with juubito, if you disagree, explain how you think so

Not saying Madara will solo no diff cuz that's def not case but Madara has chance of winning

He has infinite stamina and chakra
Rinnigan
Mokoton
Ems
Susanno full
25 Susanna clones
PS
All 5 nature elements
Yin and yang release
Metor spam (tech this if he kept doing it I think he could take everybody out)

Soo yeah he's pretty OP so I think he has a real good chance against obito

dude, madara failed to beat naruto and killer bee before the juubi was revived (or whatever) and madara straight up admitted this so don't even try to deny it

didn't you see what juubito did to hashirama and tobirama??? and hashirama's wood things and the barrier?

 

[hyuuga teddy]

Damn these fanboys! Madara's whatever card would fail just as is control of Obito did! Deal with it

 

[xcoyote]

zetsu makes up half of Obito's body, without that he dies. Guess you created the zetsu body for him?

Madara has been alive for roughly a century and had time to form his master plan. Considering that he's shown to figure out how to summon and be host to the juubi, I'm sure he knows the jutsu the rikudou used to seal/defeat the juubi in the first place.

Mastery comes with the rinnegan btw. Those who possess it master any jutsu they learn.

Didnt his master plan fail though when Nagato died and Obito took his eyes for himself??Obito had no intention to revive the guy.
He is in the game again because Kabuto wanted to mess up with Obito.

 

[~Sovereign~]

@bold: That's not logic, that's straight up manga fact

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also the kyuubi hasn't shown to heal extensively. I doubt it can heal someone who's missing half his body, nor can it heal broken/dislocated bone.

Naruto was in his Bijuu Mode and still had his shoulder dislocated; he needed Rock Lee to pop it back into place

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omg, nagato did not MASTER rinnegan right away, he was STILL training when jiraiya left them. And nagato probably hadn't mastered rinnegan until he fought hanzo, that was all rampage from yahiko dying

naruto's shoulder is different from obito's side being ripped off, naruto's bone was out of place, obito will be missing flesh which the juubi SHOULD be able to heal

 

[Jako98146]

No way madara could beat Juubito

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

we'll see



what does madara saving obito have to do with now???

madara cant go toe to toe with juubito, if you disagree, explain how you think so



dude, madara failed to beat naruto and killer bee before the juubi was revived (or whatever) and madara straight up admitted this so don't even try to deny it

didn't you see what juubito did to hashirama and tobirama??? and hashirama's wood things and the barrier?

Where did he admit to not being able to defeat bee and naruto


.-. If I remember correctly Madara was toying and ****ing up gai and bee

While obito was fighting naruto kakashi


Madara did try to use wood dragon on naruto and it didn't work fully but tht was cuz of 2 reasons 1 naruto isn't a bijuu he has one in side of him...
2 madara's wood release is no doubt weaker then hashi's

But this doesn't mean he couldn't beat them .-.

 

[Lightbringer]

omg, nagato did not MASTER rinnegan right away, he was STILL training when jiraiya left them. And nagato probably hadn't mastered rinnegan until he fought hanzo, that was all rampage from yahiko dying

naruto's shoulder is different from obito's side being ripped off, naruto's bone was out of place, obito will be missing flesh which the juubi SHOULD be able to heal

but it clearly says in the panel that possessing the rinnegan lets you master any jutsu you learn......how can you argue this?

and so you believe that Obito would grow half his body back? Zetsu practically makes up for his lost organs since he doesn't need to eat or go to the bathroom.....

I highly doubt that the juubi would be able to heal that much. Even Tsunade when cut in half couldn't heal herself

 

[stoikis]

Obito is the strongest

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[ShiroShonen]

zetsu makes up half of Obito's body, without that he dies. Guess you created the zetsu body for him?

Madara has been alive for roughly a century and had time to form his master plan. Considering that he's shown to figure out how to summon and be host to the juubi, I'm sure he knows the jutsu the rikudou used to seal/defeat the juubi in the first place.

Mastery comes with the rinnegan btw. Those who possess it master any jutsu they learn.

Second him ^^

 

[~Sovereign~]

No way madara could beat Juubito

exactly, I don't see how people even THINK madara could...seriously

Where did he admit to not being able to defeat bee and naruto


.-. If I remember correctly Madara was toying and ****ing up gai and bee

While obito was fighting naruto kakashi


Madara did try to use wood dragon on naruto and it didn't work fully but tht was cuz of 2 reasons 1 naruto isn't a bijuu he has one in side of him...
2 madara's wood release is no doubt weaker then hashi's

But this doesn't mean he couldn't beat them .-.

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madara admitted that they were better than he thought and that he was really trying to capture them

naruto guy killer bee and kakashi were fighting for a very long time before madara even got on the battlefield, and its easy for madara because he has unlimited stamina and chakra

if it wasn't for naruto giving out his own chakra, guy wouldn't died from no chakra or something, madara had an automatic advantage from the start

 

[Henrik]

zetsu makes up half of Obito's body, without that he dies. Guess you created the zetsu body for him?

Madara has been alive for roughly a century and had time to form his master plan. Considering that he's shown to figure out how to summon and be host to the juubi, I'm sure he knows the jutsu the rikudou used to seal/defeat the juubi in the first place.

Mastery comes with the rinnegan btw. Those who possess it master any jutsu they learn.

And guess who broke out of the control? Obito. Ergo you're arguement is useless.

He planned it, but didn't do it. Obito tricked Madara because he simple knew Madara would do something like that. The Jutsu Rikudou used is Chibaku Tensei, and Madara cannot do that on level with Rikudou.

Funny that Obito has used the Rinnegan more than Madara, hehe. He doesn't have a shit on Obito, with Juubi or not.

Just to add it, Kamui.

Not saying Madara will solo no diff cuz that's def not case but Madara has chance of winning

He has infinite stamina and chakra
Rinnigan
Mokoton
Ems
Susanno full
25 Susanna clones
PS
All 5 nature elements
Yin and yang release
Metor spam (tech this if he kept doing it I think he could take everybody out)

Soo yeah he's pretty OP so I think he has a real good chance against obito

No.

Madara is a fragment of Rikudou sennin's power, and Obito is currently on level with Rikudou sennin. Madara, the most cocky character said that.

 

[~Sovereign~]

but it clearly says in the panel that possessing the rinnegan lets you master any jutsu you learn......how can you argue this?

and so you believe that Obito would grow half his body back? Zetsu practically makes up for his lost organs since he doesn't need to eat or go to the bathroom.....

I highly doubt that the juubi would be able to heal that much. Even Tsunade when cut in half couldn't heal herself

you obviously don't understand the meaning, just because rinnegan can help you master any jutsu, that doesn't mean your gonna learn any jutsu within minutes or something, you still have to train to master the jutsu that you learn from the rinnegan

example: naruto use rasenshuriken on kakuzu, does that mena naruto MASTERED rasenshuriken???? NO, learned it AND THEN MASTERED IT LATER

dude...your kinda retarded. i dont think any1 has said madara can solo juubito. Stop under rating EDO madara like hes doesnt have a chance at outwitting an infant minded juubito.... whoever your fav character is would get ass raped and wouldnt even have a chance. stop hating on madara.

first of all I didnt say people said madara will solo, I said toe to toe duma**

second of all, madara fanboys were saying the trump card will beat juubito and madara is stronger than hashirama since hashirama admitted to being weak and madara had a chance

I know my favcharacter cant beat juubito, your just a mad madara fanboy that cant deal with the fact that NO ONE can beat juubito including madara