Sasuke vs Minato, endless argument, proofs are inside

TheEvilOne

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my previous post contained the answer to this.

enjoy:

The KB is destroyed when it touches the Susanoo covered with Enton.. GG.
Not to mention the fact Sasuke can reactivate the V1/ V2 Susanoo instantly.
 

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The KB is destroyed when it touches the Susanoo covered with Enton.. GG.
Not to mention the fact Sasuke can reactivate the V1/ V2 Susanoo instantly.
the KB part is debatable.

instantly? no. it takes time, it may not be more than a couple seconds, but that's plenty for minato.
 

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the KB part is debatable.

instantly? no. it takes time, it may not be more than a couple seconds, but that's plenty for minato.

It's not debatable. In most of the cases even a simple punch is enough to destroy it.

It is instant. Remembe when Sasuke used Kirin against Itachi? He had less than a second the activate the V2 Susanoo.
Or when Madara protected himself against Ay. I'll give scans if you want.
 

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It's not debatable. In most of the cases even a simple punch is enough to destroy it.

It is instant. Remembe when Sasuke used Kirin against Itachi? He had less than a second the activate the V2 Susanoo.
Or when Madara protected himself against Ay. I'll give scans if you want.
a KBs durability depends on the amount of chakra that is used in its creation.

the only jutsu that is truly instant is ftg. i admit, susanoos activation is fast.
you're forgetting that once minato ftgs susanoo away, it still has to be deactivated and afterwards reactivated. that takes time. even if susanoos activation is instant, sasukes reflexes/reaction isn't. he won't be able to grasp what happened fast enough to reactivate susanoo. minatos reflexes/reactiosn surpass him by quite a bit.

since minato has to touch susanoo, that actually means that he is standing right before him. maybe 1m apart. should sasuke reactivate susanoo, then minato would be trapped inside it with sasuke.
 
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The ribcage is the lower form of Susanoo

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Like you can see there is a great opening on the front and on the the feet

We can even see here that Raikage was holding him inside his ribcage

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It's from , that the Susanoo aura is formed around it
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When you understand it, there is no wonder why that Gaara could use the sand under Madara's feet since there is an opening inside it
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FTG has a radius
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So normally, protected by Susanoo or not, Susanoo having a opening from the ribcage, Minato should be capable to strike the user in one teleportation using the radius of his technique

It's for that reason i never believed Susanoo could really protect against FTG
 

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^ Assumptions.

Moving on. The rib cage was able to completely sustain Mei's lava attack. A measly little Rasangan isn't doing any better. Susano'o's erection is faster than 1/1000 of a second. Let's see if Minato can do any better. He isn't teleporting anywhere, nor is he getting around Susano'o. Any version of Sasuke above 3T beats Minato easily. EMS would be a crushing victory, if Minato doesn't decide to teleport to his mother's basement.
 

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Bogard not quiet.

Ei got a hold of sasuke before he activated susano and not after. That is why [ , ]

As for the front. Apart from the obvious rib cage, it also has covered it a thick layer of chakra which is in fact the very early stages of susano.






You claimed there is an opening at the front, but that isnt the case.
Apart from the aura which is the very first stage, a stage that has its defense, the second stage which is the ribcage can be manipulated to overcome this supposedly frontal disadvantage and further increase the defence from the front


 
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MS Sasuke or EMS Sasuke>Minato. (MS takes him high diff, EMS takes him mid diff)

Edo Minato>EMS or MS Sasuke.
 

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Bogard not quiet.

Ei got a hold of sasuke before he activated susano and not after. That is why [ , ]

As for the front. Apart from the obvious rib cage, it also has covered it a thick layer of chakra which is in fact the very early stages of susano.






You claimed there is an opening at the front, but that isnt the case.
Apart from the aura which is the very first stage, a stage that has its defense, the second stage which is the ribcage can be manipulated to overcome this supposedly frontal disadvantage and further increase the defence from the front


That aura is part of Susanoo. We've seen that the user can move freely within the aura when the Susanoo is active(Sasuke was on the bottom of the Susanoo aura, went to the head)
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So i believe the aura itself isn't as protective as you think. We even see Kabuto crushing Itachi's hand through said aura with ease
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The defensive capacity of Susanoo starts from his ribcage. And it's from the ribcage, that the user form the other steps of Susanoo. We can even see it again during the fight against Danzo that the aura started from the ribcage in this case

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While it's true the user can start to create the aura only, it doesn't represent the defensive part of Susanoo
 

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- Mei uses Lava attack on a Rib form, which isn't surrounding Sasuke at all, yet the Lava doesn't leak inside Susano'o.

- You can see the ribs don't surround Sasuke at all, but the mist is only eating away at the bones when his face is completely exposed - It only penetrates when he tried to jump to a higher tier in the previous image and loses a ton of Chakra in the process. Both Mei and Karin attest to that - .

I am still unsure where this gap thing is still a factor here. I can post at least 5 more scans to refute this completely. Th aura is just as powerful as Susano'o itself. This is proven from Mei's lava attack. What is Minato accomplishing here?
 

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People need to stop undermining Sasuke heck EMS Sasuke is being looked down on today.Ms and Ems wins but obviously Ms will have more trouble for yet again obvious reasons.
 

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3- Sasuke made us understand because of sound vibration. Well, Pa and Ma have (able to paralyse Pain summons). With this jutsu, it would be easy for Minato to take advantage of this and finish him

Now someone could say that Minato won't summon them since it's not his fighting style, true but if Minato has no other choice, why won't he if he knows they will assure him victory?


I don't recall minato having ma and pa as summonings also u shouldn't make up things for the character it's... Desoerate
 

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That aura is part of Susanoo. We've seen that the user can move freely within the aura when the Susanoo is active(Sasuke was on the bottom of the Susanoo aura, went to the head)
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So i believe the aura itself isn't as protective as you think. We even see Kabuto crushing Itachi's hand through said aura with ease
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The defensive capacity of Susanoo starts from his ribcage. And it's from the ribcage, that the user form the other steps of Susanoo. We can even see it again during the fight against Danzo that the aura started from the ribcage in this case

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While it's true the user can start to create the aura only, it doesn't represent the defensive part of Susanoo
in your post up there that was izanami was already inafect kabuto seen anything itachi wanted him to so irrelevant cannot be teleported inside susanoo as blaze said there is an aura that will crush him if you think he could ever get inside
 
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