[VS] Nagato vs. DSM Kabuto

[Brother Numpsay]

God damn no intel ... Anyways im fairly sure the if the White dragon Were ST'd away (similar to how FRS was here

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simply dissipate or it may be able to be absorbed before it coils around the orb ...

I think the light explosion will still work. similar to this:

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Notice how he repel the kunai but the explosion (smoke bomb I think?) attach to it was able to explode still. He might repel the dragon but not the light explosion

 

[KidGamer65]

God damn no intel ... Anyways im fairly sure the if the White dragon Were ST'd away (similar to how FRS was here

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simply dissipate or it may be able to be absorbed before it coils around the orb ...

He doesn't need to use it anywhere near Nagato for it to have an effect, so why would he even try Shinra Tensei? Not to mention FRS is pure chakra hence why it dissipated it. Its unknown what exactly the dragon and the orb are made out of so that isn't a viable strategy.

 

[Zexion~]

Well seeing as it requires hand signs im assuming it has some chakra aspect in it ....and so what how far he uses it lol Hell Nagato could BT the orb to him getting it away from the dragon itself, which if the dragon wuld then try to follow said orb, it would run right into Preta, or an ST .. which i still think it dissipate, however if it is simply Pure light then i guess it can not be blocked


@EJ- the dragon needs to coil around the orb for anything to happen, so if he did in fact ST the dragon away there would be no explosion

 

[Nidds]

In a cave and no intel for either side?

DSM Kabuto takes this, but mid-high diff

 

[KidGamer65]

Well seeing as it requires hand signs im assuming it has some chakra aspect in it ....and so what how far he uses it lol Hell Nagato could BT the orb to him getting it away from the dragon itself, which if the dragon wuld then try to follow said orb, it would run right into Preta, or an ST .. which i still think it dissipate, however if it is simply Pure light then i guess it can not be blocked

The dragon is attached to the orb. All he'd be doing is pulling it closer to him rendering the effect stronger.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Well seeing as it requires hand signs im assuming it has some chakra aspect in it ....and so what how far he uses it lol Hell Nagato could BT the orb to him getting it away from the dragon itself, which if the dragon wuld then try to follow said orb, it would run right into Preta, or an ST .. which i still think it dissipate, however if it is simply Pure light then i guess it can not be blocked


@EJ- the dragon needs to coil around the orb for anything to happen, so if he did in fact ST the dragon away there would be no explosion

If you notice the orb cracks by itself. I don't think the dragon doesn't do much to what the orb holds inside.

 

[Zexion~]

Here my man read this

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[Zexion~]

The dragon is attached to the orb. All he'd be doing is pulling it closer to him rendering the effect stronger.

No .. it wont be able to coil while the orb is in front of it meaning the technique would never be in effect .it would lead the dragon right into either deva or preta

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Here my man read this

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"After forming the necessary hand seals, the user expels a dragon-like entity from their mouth that carries an orb in its left front claw. As the dragon tightly coils itself around the orb, it releases both blinding light and deafening sound."

Wiki is just explaining what they see in the manga page.
"As the dragon tightly coils itself" is wrong according to the manga scan.

The dragon actually gives it some space for the orb to explode. All it does is wrap around it.

I still think the orb is effective without the dragon but not as much then it is with it.

 

[Midday]

It's unbelievable how so many people say Nagato looses here but are happy to say Itachi beats Dsm Kabuto.

Cave or not it doesn't matter it can be destroyed with shinra tensei, a

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and giant summons. He needs no intel on any of Kabuto's jutsu, he can sense muki tensei in advance and react accordingly. Even if he's stunned by Tanya's flute genjutsu you're still able to use your moves like Itachi and Sasuke used genjutsu, one large shinra tensei to blow up the cave and hit Kabuto would be fine. Kabuto's immune to physical damage but he can still be put down with a soul rip or chakra cannon explosions sort of similar to how Suigetsu couldn't take a tbb even with a lake as his source of water.

 

[KidGamer65]

No .. it wont be able to coil while the orb is in front of it meaning the technique would never be in effect .it would lead the dragon right into either deva or preta

Bansho Tennin isn't going to stop the dragon from coiling around the orb. The orb is never going to leave the dragons hand. All it will do is coil around it and Nagato will be paralyzed.

 

[Zexion~]

Bansho Tennin isn't going to stop the dragon from coiling around the orb. The orb is never going to leave the dragons hand. All it will do is coil around it and Nagato will be paralyzed.

its hard to coil around something when its moving pretty fast in the opposite direction ...

 

[KidGamer65]

its hard to coil around something when its moving pretty fast in the opposite direction ...

Kakashi could still move around when he was being pulled toward Pain via BT. I fail to understand why he would opt for BT anyway...

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

as much as I respect Kabuto, he can't beat Nagato without ET
he got defeated by Itachi who's weaker than Nagato
also he can't counter Chibaku Tensei

 

[Zexion~]

Kakashi could still move around when he was being pulled toward Pain via BT. I fail to understand why he would opt for BT anyway...

If i saw a giant dragon made entirely out of chakra/light/whatever the hell its made of . carying a solid object? ..Id. Bt it closer so i could destroy it,or the dragon ... although im confident in a cave his ST could reach wherever he begins the process, and Kakashi was in a completely different situation

 

[Brother Numpsay]

It's unbelievable how so many people say Nagato looses here but are happy to say Itachi beats Dsm Kabuto.

The only people who are happy to say Itachi beats Kabuto are fanboys/wankers, due to results of the manga.

Cave or not it doesn't matter it can be destroyed with shinra tensei, a

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and giant summons.

Good point. All of Nagato's attacks have destructive power the Cave can be broken down easily through the things you listed.

He needs no intel on any of Kabuto's jutsu, he can sense muki tensei in advance and react accordingly.

How does he sense that attack? Seeing the cave alternating at will is one story but sensing it is another. What can he do even reacting accordingly?

Even if he's stunned by Tanya's flute genjutsu you're still able to use your moves like Itachi and Sasuke used genjutsu, one large shinra tensei to blow up the cave and hit Kabuto would be fine.

Itachi and Sasuke relied on Yin release to escape. Both required a partner to get out. I dont see how he can ST in a genjutsu to get out. Your making it seem like this jutsu is easily counterable.

Kabuto's immune to physical damage but he can still be put down with a soul rip or chakra cannon explosions sort of similar to how Suigetsu couldn't take a tbb even with a lake as his source of water.

That is true. But soul rip still requires some subjugation to successfully pull out ones soul. Not once in the manga that he was shown to easily performed by a simple touch. Since Kabuto has Sage we know what happens to "Human Path" when they get close to use it, via Jiraya.

As for Chakra Canon needs a charge time like TBB. Kabuto can counter it too, but its true that once he is hit, he will get damaged. But you have to remember he will just use Uzumaki (Karin) regeneration.

 

[HiddenSound]

I can see it go either way high dif. I've always seen them as equals.

 

[Zexion~]

I can see it go either way high dif. I've always seen them as equals.

if they weren't in a cave Nagato would wreck him lol

 

[Deadai]

Just to add some oil to the flames

Inorganic reanimation should be able to take control of Chibaku Tensei which could be used on Nagato
& if Nagato attempts to absorb any of Kabuto's sage jutsu or absorb chakra from kabuto directly then Nagato dies because of sage chakra.

Kabuto takes the victory high diff inside or outside of a cave.

 

[Zexion~]

Just to add some oil to the flames

Inorganic reanimation should be able to take control of Chibaku Tensei which could be used on Nagato
& if Nagato attempts to absorb any of Kabuto's sage jutsu or absorb chakra from kabuto directly then Nagato dies because of sage chakra.

Kabuto takes the victory high diff inside or outside of a cave.

Now hold on there my man .. no way in hell does he even come close outside a cave .. Inorganic reanimation is not doing much to ct .. if a TBB,FRS and Yasaka was what it took to take down a small one