itachi is weaker than sasuke and minato

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your thoughts are all logical and you do have a point guys.
i still believe itachi would win,but you debated pretty well XD

i like you guys XD
 

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Itachi amaterasu is not stronger or faster than sasuke's, and itachi susanoo wouldn't be any good if sasuke is far from him(since its short range) and yata mirror only blocks the front of susanoo(the back can be penetrate, danzo proved that) so itachi susanoo is no use here

And sasuke surpasses itachi in other jutsus seeing that itachi is water(lightening beats water) and fire(sasuke's fire surpasses itachi)style, so itachi would just be pros ponding his death(don't forget that if you use ms too much,say bye-bye to it)
who said itachi's susano'o is short range . . he destroyed CT of nagato along with help of naruto n bee ofcourse . .still he has long range weapon..
did u already forget itachi n sasuke fight? . .as i said itachi lost because defeating sasuke wasn't his intention . .that battle was to give sasuke EMS . .even tobi feared itachi remember . .and also what was itachi's trump card??? is suasno'o . .n he used it when he was almost close to death n sealed oro in that state successfully . .hence it proves he has greater chakra n stamina . .

so wat if yata mirror cant cover entire susan'o . .it turnsXD

i agree that MS can cause blindness . .itachi survived using it for years whereas sasuke hardly managed to bear it's effect after his fight with danzo and had replacement . .once again proving itachi has lots of stamina to withstand MS side effects

u got it all wrong . .itachi is not water based lol. .it's his sharingan which copied water style from kakashi in the beginning of naruto 1
 
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you assuming that it cant and me assuming that it can is just based on our opinions...so it cant be proved....i believe itachi defeats him,you believe sasuke defeats him....let`s just agree to disagree...=D

i am awesome:cool:

nice debate :D
Actually if yata could be spread why didn't he do it against nagato? and 3T sharingan almost defeated him not to talk of ms sasuke(I wonder what ems sasuke would do to him:yay:)
 

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Actually if yata could be spread why didn't he do it against nagato? and 3T sharingan almost defeated him not to talk of ms sasuke(I wonder what ems sasuke would do to him:yay:)
eh 3t almost defeated him only because itachi`s sickness was screwing him..it would be easier for itachi had he not been sick =D

izanami is still a factor or KA.itachi didnt go all out in his fight with sasuke at all.i do admit his fight with EMS sasuke would be very close XD

that is with EMS sasuke we`ve seen for now....when sasuke starts using PS and some OP shit then i will instantly admit that itachi loses XD
 

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Do you think kakashi would have survived or not if he had been trapped in tsukoyomi for 20 seconds?
You mean 20seconds in the real world? If it's the case, firstly i doubt Itachi can create this type of tsukuyomi for that long before collapsing when just a few seconds tsukuyomi puts already a lot of strains on his body. Secondly, the databook says the prisoner would wait until his spirit collapse, implying that after the spirit collapse, it ends the jutsu. So it's likely that his spirit will collapse long before that
 

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who said itachi's susano'o is short range . . he destroyed CT of nagato along with help of naruto n bee ofcourse . .still he has long range weapon..
did u already forget itachi n sasuke fight? . .as i said itachi lost because defeating sasuke wasn't his intention . .that battle was to give sasuke EMS . .even tobi feared itachi remember . .and also what was itachi's trump card??? is suasno'o . .n he used it when he was almost close to death n sealed oro in that state successfully . .hence it proves he has greater chakra n stamina . .

so wat if yata mirror cant cover entire susan'o . .it turnsXD

i agree that MS can cause blindness . .itachi survived using it for years whereas sasuke hardly managed to bear it's effect after his fight with danzo and had replacement . .once again proving itachi has lots of stamina to withstand MS side effects

u got it all wrong . .itachi is not water based lol. .it's his sharingan which copied water style from kakashi in the beginning of naruto 1
itachi alwayed use 3T that's why he wasn't blind and it turns slowly

and itachi is water based, check the data book
 

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there is absolutely no proof for itachi being sick before...even zetsu was surprised to see that itachi cant counter certain techniques and was expecting more of itachi....itachi was definitely stronger before

clones can think,have their senses so in common sense they could be trapped in an illussion...but i guess kishi said no
itachi has never truly been healthy.

1. MS
the more the MS abilities are used, the more the eye-sight of the user worsens. itachi was known for the use of tsukuyomi, amaterasu and susanoo, especially tsukuyomi. he spammed these techs so much, that he almost turned blind, as proven by the itachi vs sasuke fight. bad eyes = weaker shinobi.

2. itachis sickness
itachi has been suffering under two symptoms cause of his sickness. heart pain and the coughing of blood. this sickness was the one that killed him at the end.
here an analysis of itachis sickness:


zetsu not knowing about it doesn't mean shit. itachi was good at hiding stuff.
 
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itachi went all out bro, amaterasu and susanoo(his tuump cards) where used, he planed to go all out until orochimaru was out
but itachi would be able to fight a lot better had he not been sick:hint:
itachi has never truly been healthy.

1. MS
the more the MS abilities are used, the more the eye-sight of the user worsens. itachi was known for the use of tsukuyomi, amaterasu and susanoo, especially tsukuyomi. he spammed these techs so much, that he almost turned blind, as proven by the itachi vs sasuke fight. bad eyes = weaker shinobi.

2. itachis sickness
itachi has been suffering under two symptoms cause of his sickness. heart pain and the coughing of blood. this sickness was the one that killed him at the end.
here an analysis of itachis sickness:


zetsu not knowing about it doesn't mean shit. itachi was good at hiding stuff.
as it is not confirmed in the manga i cant actually believe that he was ill before...he looked fine before...but still nice page..
 

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but itachi would be able to fight a lot better had he not been sick:hint:


as it is not confirmed in the manga i cant actually believe that he was ill before...he looked fine before...but still nice page..
a sickness doesn't appear out of nowhere. meaning that he was sick for a while before his final fight.
taking a look at how bad itachis sickness was, it's obvious that he was sick for a while.

now is the time for common sense.
 

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Hard fight, but it would go like Itachi (healthy)>Sasuke>Minato. Minato may be fast as hell, but bunch of Rasengan's ain't gonna do much damage on Susano'o, especially Itachi's one. The guy has a sealing sword, and a absolute shield along with Susano'o. The only matter is his chakra. FTG? What is he going to do run away? It doesn't help that much, since he can't break through Susano'o easily. And forget the sealing jutsu's, we've only seen a couple of them, and none of them can be done during a real fight, unless the opponent is stand right infront of you completely still, or you die after using them. And we all know the current Sasuke... He would literally sh*t on Minato.
 

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Itachi is severely overhyped.

Hell, almost everyone will agree that Itachi is one of Sasuke's benchmarks, and although the series is almost over, many people won't admit that Sasuke has surpassed him even though he was destined to.

Word of God has placed Itachi below Sharingan Tobi and around Jiraiya. That is fair and respectable. He has quite the selection of strengths, but he has many weaknesses and drawbacks as well which people often overlook or ignore. The Word of God has also said that he isn't perfect.

P.S. "Healthy Itachi" is fanfiction. People need to stop pretending otherwise.


eh 3t almost defeated him only because itachi`s sickness was screwing him..it would be easier for itachi had he not been sick =D

izanami is still a factor or KA.itachi didnt go all out in his fight with sasuke at all.i do admit his fight with EMS sasuke would be very close XD

that is with EMS sasuke we`ve seen for now....when sasuke starts using PS and some OP shit then i will instantly admit that itachi loses XD
Itachi's MS was screwing him. Gotta take the good with the bad. Sasuke is also very powerful and skilled as well, don't underrate him.

Izanami is almost impossible to use, and he cannot use Koto Amatsukami.

Itachi said Sasuke needed MS to surpass him, Sasuke got MS; now he has EMS. Even if he was still around Itachi's level, he's undoubtedly more powerful now. Especially since Sasuke was supposed to surpass Itachi, and the series is almost over.
 
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