Madara is stronger than Hashirama

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How so? He himself states the peak of his power, even in his current Edo form is Perfect Susanoo, which as we know was taken down by the Buddha. The only benefit the Rinnegan gives him in a fight against Hashirama is the Deva Path because of Bansho Tenshin and Shinra Tensei (Meteors by extension) and we've seen from Naruto that the stronger the person the easier it is to withstand its abilities (BM Naruto feats for example and Hashirama complies under these stipulations). Preta doesn't absorb Mokuton as it's REAL TREES. All the other abilities are nothing in the face of Hashirama since what Madara can do with them can do better with his Susanoo (Has multiple limbs to compensate for Asura but on a larger scale with his massive Susanoo).

No, Madara's Perfect Susanoo was only used as a shell for the Kyuubi, and not used in it's actual complete form as seen when Madara was facing the 5 Kages.
Also, the Susanoo was broken only due to the clash of TBB swords and the 1000 hands.
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Madara doesn't need Preta to counter Mokuton, as he has simple Shinra Tensei.
 

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those meteors are not even the size of the PS.

Shin suusenju makes the PS look like a tiny ant compared to it.

Shin suusenju would be able to grab it mid air and toss it.
what if madara makes 20 of them? :p

plus shinra tensei,chibaku tensei(which he probably has)
 

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those meteors are not even the size of the PS.

Shin suusenju makes the PS look like a tiny ant compared to it.

Shin suusenju would be able to grab it mid air and toss it.

Are you kidding me??

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You can't see anything, even Madara's regular Susanoo.

what if hashirama makes 20 shin shuusenju? xd

It's a summoning, so that's impossible.
 

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Are you kidding me??

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You can't see anything, even Madara's regular Susanoo.



It's a summoning, so that's impossible.

Shinsenjuu isn't a summoning. It's a Sage Mokuton technique hence the term "Senpou: Shinsenjuu". Nowhere did it say Kuchiyose no jutsu: Shinsenjuu.
 

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Shinsenjuu isn't a summoning. It's a Sage Mokuton technique hence the term "Senpou: Shinsenjuu". Nowhere did it say Kuchiyose no jutsu: Shinsenjuu.

was just going to say,

i agree.
 

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Shinsenjuu isn't a summoning. It's a Sage Mokuton technique hence the term "Senpou: Shinsenjuu". Nowhere did it say Kuchiyose no jutsu: Shinsenjuu.

You're right, sorry. It still is unable to tank even a single Meteor as the meteors size is way too large for it to handle.
 

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You're right, sorry. It still is unable to tank even a single Meteor as the meteors size is way too large for it to handle.

Shinsenjuu is larger than the meteors that Madara pulled from the atmosphere.
 

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Shinsenjuu is larger than the meteors that Madara pulled from the atmosphere.

indeed.you are right.but i bet it would destroy the shinsuusenju if 20 of those dropped on it.madaracould do it.he dropped two like it was nothing
 

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Shinsenjuu is larger than the meteors that Madara pulled from the atmosphere.

No it isn't. Proof:

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Here, you can barely see the landscape..

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Here,although it is on the ground, you can see trees and it's clearly not as big as a Meteor that moved the clouds.
 

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No it isn't. Proof:

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Here, you can barely see the landscape..

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Here,although it is on the ground, you can see trees and it's clearly not as big as a Meteor that moved the clouds.
Does it matter? The size difference? Meteor can't be maneuvered by madara, but Hashi can control the hands of shisuusenju. So, if Madara could spam the meteors, Hashi could use the shisuusenju to extend its hands, and spam them against madara, with ease. Don't you argue that meteors are way too heavy for shisuusenju to handle, if Hashi could lift off kyuubi's bijuu dama using Mokouton, and throw it at a far off distance, whose small lump is quite heavy for a human, an arm for a meteor should be enough.
So, one shisuusenju is enough. And if Kishi tells that Hashi could spam shisuusenjus, that would be really epic. And heed my words, now the only one capable of defeating hashi is obito, jyuubi's jinchuriki.
 
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