Madara is stronger than Hashirama

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madara only said that PS is his full power because it used to be his full power back in the day when he was only EMS madara.it doesnt mean anything.it was just a way of saying.just like when he said that anyone who sees PS dies.but that was proven to be wrong two times.so yeah.you guys take everything that a character says in the manga for granted....which is not...

madara was equal to hashirama even when he was only EMS madara for god`s sake cant you see it?? hashirama barely won and collapsed moments later.if that doesnt indicate that they were equal then i dont know what does....

if only EMS madara almost beat hashirama then edo madara will rape hashirama...it`s that simple.rinnegan alone can beat hashirama
first of all, EMS madara had the kyuubi on his side.

And second of all, MAdara stated that PS is his strongest power meaning that His rinnegan pales in comparison mainly due to the fact that he has to train to use the rinnegan.
 

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stating that hashirama is the only one who could stop him even in his edo form Implies that Hashirama is Equal to or greater than that of edo Madara.

It was kishi reminding us that hashirama is the the superior one.

Madara was only saying that because of the results of their last battle. Hashirama has the potential, it doesn't mean he can do it.
Why didn't you just say that then?

I thought you'd understand what I was talking about..
 

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same arguement as always for this... madara openly admits hashirama is stronger... nxt point hashirama is confident enough to put fighting madara off till he gets rid of the real problems at hand, as for wen obito goes OP mode he cancels all clones and gets in his face immidiatly, this is the planning of a person much stronger than the other... so wen someone openly admits someone can beat them then ur not going to get anything but madara fans to beleive he is stronger than hashirama...
 

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Madara was only saying that because of the results of their last battle. Hashirama has the potential, it doesn't mean he can do it.


I thought you'd understand what I was talking about..
he stated it while in edo form and Fully aware of his rinnegan.

It's kishi reminding us that hashirama is the stronger one.
 

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madara was equal to hashirama even when he was only EMS madara for god`s sake cant you see it?? hashirama barely won and collapsed moments later.if that doesnt indicate that they were equal then i dont know what does....

if only EMS madara almost beat hashirama then edo madara will rape hashirama...it`s that simple.rinnegan alone can beat hashirama

Facts. All facts right here.

Just kill yourself right now

Good Lord, I didn't know you felt that way about it..
 

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Power is power; and I'm sure Madara's new arsenal puts him way above 1000 hands. Proof that Madara stated his full power was PS?



No, I just wasn't going to post in your thread anymore.

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wood release is a non factor against hashirama. madara's strongest jutsu does (tengai shinseI) nothing to him since he is an edo

buddha >> PS

hate to say it but fodder hashi takes this
 

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Why is this so hard for people to grasp? Accept it.

Throw out any crappy argument, and I'll attempt to prove otherwise.

Madara said it himself even with Hashirama cells Madara said the only one who could stop him was Hashirama.
 

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first of all, EMS madara had the kyuubi on his side.

And second of all, MAdara stated that PS is his strongest power meaning that His rinnegan pales in comparison mainly due to the fact that he has to train to use the rinnegan.

he didnt train for preta path and universal pull of the meteor.but was still able to use it.there is no proof that madara cant use all rinnegan techs.

so you are saying kyuubi wasnt a part of his power? that`s like saying juubi isnt a part of obito`s power right now.

edo madara has just been trolling till now,he hasnt even shown 50% of his power...:win:
 

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No matter, his Rinnegan-enhanced arsenal still tops the 1000 hands.

How so? He himself states the peak of his power, even in his current Edo form is Perfect Susanoo, which as we know was taken down by the Buddha. The only benefit the Rinnegan gives him in a fight against Hashirama is the Deva Path because of Bansho Tenshin and Shinra Tensei (Meteors by extension) and we've seen from Naruto that the stronger the person the easier it is to withstand its abilities (BM Naruto feats for example and Hashirama complies under these stipulations). Preta doesn't absorb Mokuton as it's REAL TREES. All the other abilities are nothing in the face of Hashirama since what Madara can do with them can do better with his Susanoo (Has multiple limbs to compensate for Asura but on a larger scale with his massive Susanoo).
 

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Madara said it himself even with Hashirama cells Madara said the only one who could stop him was Hashirama.

This cannot be the only argument you people put up.. Smh..

He said Hashirama may be able to do it, not straight up could do it do it.
 

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Hashirama is an elite shinobi, who has the ability to ascertain his opponent's strength. Not once, he said he wouldn't be able to beat madara, whereas in the case of obito, he frankly states that he (Obito, after becoming jyuubi's jinchuriki) has become stronger than him (Hashi). During the last battle, after defeating madara, he also stated that he himself was the only one capable of defeating him. And similarly, he gladly accepts the challenge put up by madara in a playful manner, even after seeing madara's rinnegan and his fusion with hashi's cells, because he knows he can defeat him, even though it might be quite challenging. So, it would be wrong to conclude, who is stronger, just like that.

As for the unlimited supply of chakra and stamina, it is not only true for edo madara, but also for other edos as well. No matter, how much they fight, they won't get exhausted or run out of chakra, as it was mainly aimed to clear up the battle field, when the jutsu was developed. However, they will suffer the damages caused by external attacks, but regenerate overtime continuing the fight, if their souls are not sealed properly at the right moment.
 
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he didnt train for preta path and universal pull of the meteor.but was still able to use it.there is no proof that madara cant use all rinnegan techs.

so you are saying kyuubi wasnt a part of his power? that`s like saying juubi isnt a part of obito`s power right now.

edo madara has just been trolling till now,he hasnt even shown 50% of his power...:win:

kyuubi was part of his power yes.

Juubi is part of obito's power yes.

But current Madara does not have the kyuubi which means hes at a huge disadvantage then last time.
 

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kyuubi was part of his power yes.

Juubi is part of obito's power yes.

But current Madara does not have the kyuubi which means hes at a huge disadvantage then last time.

not neccessarily :)

those giant meteors could destroy shinsuusenju...as we`ve seen he can spam that shit XD

Madara said it himself even with Hashirama cells Madara said the only one who could stop him was Hashirama.

lol.madara said a lot of things.he said everyone who sees PS dies.which clearly isnt true. again i repeat....you take everything he says too much for granted..
 
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not neccessarily :)

those giant meteors could destroy shinsuusenju...as we`ve seen he can spam that shit XD

those meteors are not even the size of the PS.

Shin suusenju makes the PS look like a tiny ant compared to it.

Shin suusenju would be able to grab it mid air and toss it.
 
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