The Juubi's Similarity to Juugo: Super Far-out Idea

[Tebows Youth Group]

So, this is going to seem strange, but if you bare with me through the thread I think you'll see where I'm headed.

Part 1: The Similarities​

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When Kishimoto wrote chapter 635 he decided not to include Jugo in Orochimaru's group but to instead send him with Sasuke to the battlefield. Now, obviously this could just be random (Jugo couldn't help revive the Kages) and that could be what happened. But, Jugo isn't even fighting. He's just standing there, so I feel like Kishi put him there for a reason. As the author, he needed Jugo near the Juubi and its mini versions for now, and I think I might have an idea as to why...

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We know Jugo's body is constantly absorbing natural chakra.

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Just as the Juubi is

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For awhile now, many people, including myself, have speculated that the Juubi is just basically the personification of Nature. And since it is constantly absorbing natural chakra, was said to be the progenitor of the world, basically transformed into a flower earlier, has what looks like a forest on its back and can use wood, I would say that may be an accurate assumption. So if we can conclude that it is nature personified or at the least has some deep connection with nature than would it not be safe to assume it can communicate with nature? And if we can assume that it can communicate with nature than would it not also be safe to assume that beings descended from it can do the same?​

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The point I am trying to make is that Jugo and his clan are basically mini-human versions of the Juubi. In fact look at these last couple of chapters. It seems the mini-Juubi's and Jugo's body composition are identical.

Check at the scythe on Jugo's arm

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And Here

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And then look at the mini-Juubi's arms

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And even the flesh shields they use are similar


Jugo

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Mini-Juubi

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Part 2: The Theory

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So it would seem that Jugo is nothing more than a mini Juubi with a brain. His body more closely resembles the Juubi than it does a human. Remember when he gave Sasuke flesh and became a kid? Then absorbs a Samurai's flesh and became an adult again? Jugo could technically be the oldest person in the series if his body works the way the Juubi's does.


So, what does this all mean? It's hard to say but I have an idea..

Jugo's clan almost has to be related directly to the Juubi in some way. And what do we know has instant, direct relationship with the Juubi?

These Guys

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And we know the Juubi and Sage fought, would it not make sense that it used these spawns?

And the most interesting part? The don't disappear when some one absorbs the Juubi..This is after Obito absorbed the Juubi in case you couldn't tell. You seem them in the front there.

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So, to wrap this all up. Is it possible, that Jugo and is clan are actually the descendants of these mini-Juubi the first time they were sent out against the Sage? I know it's weird and that I sound like a guy from Ancient Aliens, but they more than anything relate to what Jugo is. Is it possible that the Sage breathed life into them after the battle with the Juubi?

I know its strange, but I feel like Kishi has Jugo there for a reason right now, cus he certainly isn't doing anything productive. I guess we'll see.​

 

[Moegi of Akatsuki]

didn't u already post it in manga sub section

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

Didn't mean to post it that early, my computer was having problems. This is the thread. I edited that one to say it was a mistake. Hopefully the mods will just take it down.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

I agreed :I I once made a thread about this in one of my accounts and people turn it down and said I was just talking randomness but the MINI juubis DOES look like juugo and even the transformation state

 

[I Sun I]

Hmm it doesnt seem stupid allthough i wish that doesnt happen enough with taka everytime they show up the show gets worse

But i dont hate juugo anyway

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

I agreed :I I once made a thread about this in one of my accounts and people turn it down and said I was just talking randomness but the MINI juubis DOES look like juugo and even the transformation state

I can't quite piece it together yet. This is just me vomiting ideas at the moment. But Jugo's clan are not ninjas, they don't even use elemental jutsu. They are more animal than human it seems. Or more Juubi than Ninja

 

[GhostProject]

This is extremely interesting, and a good comparison.

Also, its possible the name similarities mean something as well? I have no knowledge whatsoever about Japanese language so this is as baseless as it gets, but doesn't Juubi directly translate to Ten Tails? Does Juugo mean Ten _____?

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Now that you mention, these guys have a lot in common. You very well may be onto something...

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

I can't quite piece it together yet. This is just me vomiting ideas at the moment. But Jugo's clan are not ninjas, they don't even use elemental jutsu. They are more animal than human it seems. Or more Juubi than Ninja

I cant either :/ maybe the Jugo clan descended from the JUUBI, hmm but for that to happen then Lol wont that make the juubi getting intimate or it could just make the clan

a next thing too is that we never really saw them as other normal clans, they just came randomly and orochimaru seemed interest in it hm,, it in fact helped orochi with his nature jutsus,

maybe they represent nature side in the juubi?? heh they are manifestion of nature that appears when nature is disturbed?

 

[Fodder#4]

I'm not entirely certain if this is the case; but there DOES seem to be some relationship between Juugo and the Juubi. . . Great work!

 

[ballerjordan]

Interesting.

Good theory.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

This is extremely interesting, and a good comparison.

Also, its possible the name similarities mean something as well? I have no knowledge whatsoever about Japanese language so this is as baseless as it gets, but doesn't Juubi directly translate to Ten Tails? Does Juugo mean Ten _____?

You know I actually had put that at the end of the thread. Just as a teaser to show the similarities, but deleted it when I posted. But yeah Japanese is a complicated language. Its hard to know the pronunciation and spelling of the word exactly without actually speaking Japanese.

 

[GOD2U]

Great theory. I've always thought the juubi and jugo were related. Thanks for the well thought out and displayed thread.

 

[ShinraTensei17]

This is very interesting. Nice finding.

 

[Prince Charles]

amazing theory.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

You need not look further for the Jūbi's spawns, The "offspring" of the Jūbi are no other than the Uchiha and Senju Ancestors since they are literally the Yin (Uchiha) and Yang (Senju) of the Jūbi created by Rikūdo Sennin with Banbutsu Sōzō like the Bijūs, it was stated by Kabuto that Jūgo's Clan is connected with Ryūchido, not the Jūbi. The Mini-Jūbis share more similitude with White Zetsus because Mokuton is the Body of the Jūbi.

 

[Haru70]

That was a good read. There are quite a few similarities between them after all.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

You need not look further for the Jūbi's spawns, The "offspring" of the Jūbi are no other than the Uchiha and Senju Ancestors since they are literally the Yin (Uchiha) and Yang (Senju) of the Jūbi created by Rikūdo Sennin with Banbutsu Sōzō like the Bijūs, it was stated by Kabuto that Jūgo's Clan is connected with Ryūchido, not the Jūbi. The Mini-Jūbis share more similitude with White Zetsus because Mokuton is the Body of the Jūbi.

You make a good point with Ryuchido, it's something I thought about when I was making the thread, but just couldn't come up with anything substantial linking the mini-Juubi's to the Dragon Sages. But I will say that I have to disagree with you about the mini-Juubi's being more similar to Zetsu than to Jugo. We can't know for sure until the Anime version comes out or something is said in the manga, but the way the Juubi...

A. Shed its flesh from Amaterasu

B. Created the mini-Juubis

...seems much more indicative of a Jugo characteristic, then say, a Hashirama characteristic. Again, we can't know until we see it with color and sound and everything. Remember, the Jugo's body is constantly absorbing natural chakra, something we have only seen from the Juubi up to this point. I think "descendants" was the wrong word for what I think Jugo is, its more like "remnants" or left over pieces from Juubi's body. I agree with the premise that the Uchiha and Senju are it's lineage through the Sage. But think about it like this..


Flow of Time ------->

Uzumaki-------->

Sage (Uzumaki)+ Jubi (Jugo's clan)= Senju------>
Uchiha------>

Jugo's Clan----->

Now obviously the Juubi was not part of Jugo's clan, but what I'm saying is that they seem to be outside the influence of the Sage and Juubi combination. They are only related to Juubi, through being left over pieces of his battle, hence why the curse mark comes from their DNA and why they are constantly absorbing natural chakra. It is because the flesh of the Juubi is constantly absorbing natural chakra.

Like the diagram you use to map the lineage of ninja, I see it as also having a tangent for Jugo's clan off to the side where the Uzumaki's are...

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

You make a good point with Ryuchido, it's something I thought about when I was making the thread, but just couldn't come up with anything substantial linking the mini-Juubi's to the Dragon Sages. But I will say that I have to disagree with you about the mini-Juubi's being more similar to Zetsu than to Jugo. We can't know for sure until the Anime version comes out or something is said in the manga, but the way the Juubi...

A. Shed its flesh from Amaterasu

B. Created the mini-Juubis

...seems much more indicative of a Jugo characteristic, then say, a Hashirama characteristic. Again, we can't know until we see it with color and sound and everything. Remember, the Jugo's body is constantly absorbing natural chakra, something we have only seen from the Juubi up to this point. I think "descendants" was the wrong word for what I think Jugo is, its more like "remnants" or left over pieces from Juubi's body. I agree with the premise that the Uchiha and Senju are it's lineage through the Sage. But think about it like this..


Flow of Time ------->

Uzumaki-------->

Sage (Uzumaki)+ Jubi (Jugo's clan)= Senju------>
Uchiha------>

Jugo's Clan----->

Now obviously the Juubi was not part of Jugo's clan, but what I'm saying is that they seem to be outside the influence of the Sage and Juubi combination. They are only related to Juubi, through being left over pieces of his battle, hence why the curse mark comes from their DNA and why they are constantly absorbing natural chakra. It is because the flesh of the Juubi is constantly absorbing natural chakra.

Like the diagram you use to map the lineage of ninja, I see it as also having a tangent for Jugo's clan off to the side where the Uzumaki's are...

We need only look at Jūgo himself:

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White Zetsu and Mini-Jūbis:

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[Tebows Youth Group]

We need only look wt Jūgo himself:

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White Zetsu and Mini-Jūbis:

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Yea, I mean if what I say comes to be true, I don't think the Jugo's color being different from the Juubi will shake things up. Its hard to say what color those things are exactly. Its hard to say what color the Juubi is exactly. The volume cover seems to depict him as a brown.

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The similarity to me comes with the scythe they use on their arms. As soon as I saw that the parallels started to fall into place. I mean Jugo talking with birds? CONSTANTLY absorbing natural chakra, it all seems to fit with the Juubi so well. There is a relationship there and I think/hope that is why Jugo is on the battlefield at the moment.

EDIT: The spikes on the Zetsu do help your point. But we know the Zetsu basically came from the Juubi or at least from its shell, Gedo Mazou. I'm just thinking in terms of a human depiction of the Juubi's body, no interference from the Sage. And when I think about it that way I see Jugo's clan.