Madara's Trump Card Will Definitely Fail

[~Sovereign~]

Oh sorry Kishimoto. I must have missed the Part where it was stated that Madara's Trump Card is to kill or hurt Juubito.

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what else can madara possibly do??? tickle him??? lol

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I think it would be strange for his trump card to fail after he just failed to control Obito.

Why even bring up the trump card if he is just going to fail again.

It is because Kishimoto is about to introduce poetic justice, making Madara realize that humans shouldn't mess with Divine Powers (like Father and God in FMA)

 

[RikudouMadara]

He will fail, it's the Evil is not a Toy Trope, no need for Kishimoto to alter his losing streak (failed to be RT by Nagato, failed to recapture Hachibi and Kyuubi before Jūbi is reborn, failed to be RT by Obito)

Hmm...you may be right Sir Derp, but this is the one time I hope you're not.:T_T: If you are then oh well I can't complain about something I have no control over. :yayy:

 

[~Sovereign~]

Not necessarily

Madara told Obito to use his name

Everyone thought Madara was dead

Madara being alive raises questions

questions lead people to seek answers

answers which require the real Madara to fulfill, which is why Kabuto obtained his body.

and there are other ways of being resurrected that Madara knew about, like edo tensei.

So it's not really a miscalculation, just unfortunate.

its miscalculation bro, just because obito did what madara said and madara was revived its still a new plan because the original plan was simply for nagato to revive madara and we don't know what madara would've did then because him and obito would be alive and madara wouldn't even need to control obito, their wouldn't be a trump card needed. When nagato died and obito didn't revive madara, that alone changed madara's ENTIRE original plan.

I think it would be strange for his trump card to fail after he just failed to control Obito.

Why even bring up the trump card if he is just going to fail again.

That's the point, madara doesn't need to be successful right now, and if obito dies it'll kinda ruined the story now that we see he survived the first time.

And if you think about it, why would kishimoto let obito survive from madara trying to kill him last chapter just to kill obito the next chapter??? that will be an insanely bad writing from kishi honestly

BTW its not like madara is planning to fail, but he's up against the juubi right now, nothing may be according to plan right now

 

[Lightbringer]

its miscalculation bro, just because obito did what madara said and madara was revived its still a new plan because the original plan was simply for nagato to revive madara and we don't know what madara would've did then because him and obito would be alive and madara wouldn't even need to control obito, their wouldn't be a trump card needed. When nagato died and obito didn't revive madara, that alone changed madara's ENTIRE original plan.

That's why there's a back-up plan, just like Madara how put his will in Obito just in case.

Madara has been planning this for roughly a century, I doubt he'd overlook something like what if he chooses not to resurrect me and become god himself.

He had the zetsu look after Obito as well to make sure that everything went according to plan.

We still don't know what exactly may have happened if Obito didn't resurrect Madara once the juubi transformation was complete since Madara said not to revive him until he capture the kyuubi and the hachibi.

Madara possesses the rikudou's eyes right now, he might know a jutsu that the SO6P originally used to defeat the juubi.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

kabuto's trump card is an edo tensai but we don't know what madara will do, either way madara cant kill obito and take the juubi right now...

I am showing you the end of madara's trump card as example kabuto's trump card, its demise will be like kabuto's own.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It is because Kishimoto is about to introduce poetic justice, making Madara realize that humans shouldn't mess with Divine Powers (like Father and God in FMA)

I can't wait for this, it'll be the best thing thats ever happened to Madara's character.

 

[~Sovereign~]

That's why there's a back-up plan, just like Madara how put his will in Obito just in case.

Madara has been planning this for roughly a century, I doubt he'd overlook something like what if he chooses not to resurrect me and become god himself.

He had the zetsu look after Obito as well to make sure that everything went according to plan.

We still don't know what exactly may have happened if Obito didn't resurrect Madara once the juubi transformation was complete since Madara said not to revive him until he capture the kyuubi and the hachibi.

Madara possesses the rikudou's eyes right now, he might know a jutsu that the SO6P originally used to defeat the juubi.

Let me say this then, the black zetsu failed to control obito, this means obito is no longer connected to madara in any kind of way. Logically, Madara can only use some type of special attack on obito now, and I do think that it will be a rinngean tech BUT I will say this, OBITO ONLY HAS ONE RINNEGAN AND THIS MIGHT SAVE THE DAY because if madara tries to control him via rinnegan, it can still fail because obito's MS will play a major role because that means madara doesn't have full control of obito based on eyes. No matter how you look at it madara's trump card has the odds against it

And just to throw it out there, I think the so6p used the treasures to beat the juubi IMO

I am showing you the end of madara's trump card as example kabuto's trump card, its demise will be like kabuto's own.

I still doubt it

I think its gonna be different, something like another secret rinnegan tech or something

 

[Lightbringer]

Let me say this then, the black zetsu failed to control obito, this means obito is no longer connected to madara in any kind of way. Logically, Madara can only use some type of special attack on obito now, and I do think that it will be a rinngean tech BUT I will say this, OBITO ONLY HAS ONE RINNEGAN AND THIS MIGHT SAVE THE DAY because if madara tries to control him via rinnegan, it can still fail because obito's MS will play a major role because that means madara doesn't have full control of obito based on eyes. No matter how you look at it madara's trump card has the odds against it

And just to throw it out there, I think the so6p used the treasures to beat the juubi IMO

Obito's body is still half-zetsu

Madara created it for him, if he separates that from Obito, then Obito will die regardless of him being jinchuriki and the juubi would then be unleashed.

Obito may have a rinnegan, but it's not a full one. Obito failed to exercise the six paths, proving that he doesn't possess all of them. Much like the concept of how one could only acquire the full potential of the sharingan only if he has both of them.

Also Obito doesn't seem to be in control of himself at the moment anyhow.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Obito's body is still half-zetsu

Madara created it for him, if he separates that from Obito, then Obito will die regardless of him being jinchuriki and the juubi would then be unleashed.

Obito may have a rinnegan, but it's not a full one. Obito failed to exercise the six paths, proving that he doesn't possess all of them. Much like the concept of how one could only acquire the full potential of the sharingan only if he has both of them.

Also Obito doesn't seem to be in control of himself at the moment anyhow.

if obito is split in two, I highly doubt he'll die now because juubi SHOULD be able to heal him just like kyuubi can heal, and juubi should heal faster than kyuubi too.

exactly that's my point, obito only has one eye so I don't think madara can control him with rinnegan

 

[Lightbringer]

if obito is split in two, I highly doubt he'll die now because juubi SHOULD be able to heal him just like kyuubi can heal, and juubi should heal faster than kyuubi too.

exactly that's my point, obito only has one eye so I don't think madara can control him with rinnegan

I never said about controlling him, but possibly sealing him or separating his power

I'm not sure about healing either.

The kyuubi hasn't shown to be able to heal limbs

in fact, Naruto's shoulder-blade was dislocated and needed Rock Lee's helping to pop it back in place while in Bijuu mode

Obito still has a weird looking mark on his face after becoming jinchuriki and that's not even part of zetsu

 

[iFlowMotion]

Damn and I thought kishi wrote this series. Well guess not no wonder it's boring

 

[Naijakid]

The title says it all really....

Whatever madara's trump card is, it will fail, and I have 3 reasonable reasons why its obvious it'll fail.

1. Kishimoto spent 2 1/2 chapters building all this up, obito losting his mind and juubi now in control of a human body to focus its chakra/energy. Do you really think kishimoto will let madara just put a stop to juubito just like that??? Just stands up and uses a trump card, that's it?? NO, madara is only gonna piss juubito off next chapter and im almost sure madara will be joining alliance pretty soon since madara's trump card will surely get juubito's attention though, it'll probably attack and injury madara a little bit before madara joins the alliance.

After madara's trump card fails, he'll almost have to join the alliance because madara and hashirama are around the same level power wise (I don't really care who you think is stronger) and hashirama already admitted to being weaker than juubito. So who can be the most help to the alliance at this point?? madara obviously

2. Madara is WAAAY too cocky and calm. It's easy to slip up when your so full of yourself. Another thing is that madara still wasnt ready to use his trump card ON HIS OWN, he's only about to use it because juubito is about to figure out what madara is up to and then it'll probably be too late to use the trump card then, so basically madara is being forced to play his trump card while he can, as you can see madara said "I can't wait anymore".

3. I highly doubt we're done seeing obito and naruto having their back and forth conversation about being alike yet different. So that means obito will have to eventually get his mind back somehow. This means that the juubi cant be taken from obito at the moment because it'll kill obito, so whatever happens madara's trump card cant work.

Well that's my 3 reasons for now. Do you agree?

Highly plausible anything can Happen at this point

 

[Made in Heaven]

Yeah, I agree. Kishi wouldn't just build up all this hype for Juubito and then just throw it away.

 

[~Sovereign~]

I never said about controlling him, but possibly sealing him or separating his power

I'm not sure about healing either.

The kyuubi hasn't shown to be able to heal limbs

in fact, Naruto's shoulder-blade was dislocated and needed Rock Lee's helping to pop it back in place while in Bijuu mode

Obito still has a weird looking mark on his face after becoming jinchuriki and that's not even part of zetsu

separating the power is practically extracting the juubi from obito which will kill him

why cant juubi heal limbs???? naruto's should blade wasn't destroyed, it was out of place, there is a dfference bro, besides, tsunade was just in half, I believe the juubi can heal a split body if karin and suigetsu can do it

what's your point?

Highly plausible anything can Happen at this point

almost anything....this is an akward war already

Yeah, I agree. Kishi wouldn't just build up all this hype for Juubito and then just throw it away.

exactly

if madara had waited a little while before using the trump card then its might've been a 50/50 chance but there is no way kishi will let madara be successful now, I really cant see it