Obito or Madara as the final Villain.

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Last week there were several threads about Madara being done and today we learn that he is about to join the party and to top it off, he spoke about a Trump Card.
Who do you guys think will be the true final Villain in the end?
Kishi is toying with us.
 

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Obito, Madara does not have anything against the main character.

Final villain is the person who is relevant to the main character which obito is.

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Jubito ll b the final villan... And Naruto sage of 6 paths 11 b the final hero
 

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idc kishi just saved the series with the trump card tho...next few weeks finna be epic
 

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idc kishi just saved the series with the trump card tho...next few weeks finna be epic

kishi saved the manga by making madara the final villain?

Lol so he can fight hashirama the main character?

Lol silly base.
 

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Obito is more fit for the role of the main antagonist than anyone else. Including Madara. He's the EXACT opposite of the protagonist, he affected the protagonist, and made him the person he is today, and he affected Sasuke, the second main protagonist too.

He affected almost every character in the Narutoverse in some way, and caused this whole war.

Madara does not have any relation to the protagonist and the second protagonist. He isn't fit for the role.
 

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Madara, because his reasons for being a villain are more justifiable.
 

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People keep forgetting Orochimaru and so does Kishi. U_U
 

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Obito is more fit for the role of the main antagonist than anyone else. Including Madara. He's the EXACT opposite of the protagonist, he affected the protagonist, and made him the person he is today, and he affected Sasuke, the second main protagonist too.

He affected almost every character in the Narutoverse in some way, and caused this whole war.

Madara does not have any relation to the protagonist and the second protagonist. He isn't fit for the role.

exactly, Madara is only relevant to hashirama, Once they fight, Hes over.
 

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its like Kishi cant decide who will be FV, Madara was supposed to go with ET, Obito was supposed to revive Madara who would become the Jin, Obito countered that shit and became the Jin, Madara has a trump card, Cmon Kishi get rid of one of them (Hopefully Madara) don't screw my homie Obito over
 

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O..bi..to..? i think hes already gone

I wana see this trump card because how can madara still show confidence infront of jubito, its gotra be big.
 

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O..bi..to..? i think hes already gone

I wana see this trump card because how can madara still show confidence infront of jubito, its gotra be big.

Madara has confidence with everything he does, That's his downfall tho.
 

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Madara would be much better at controlling the Juubi than Obito because his ocular powers are far superior. Madara right now poses a bigger threat than Obito does.
 

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Obito hands down. As stated by Aggregator, he is the common antagonist link between the two protagonists. Also, Kishi could not be any more now clear that Obito is Dark Rikudou. Dark Rikudou is an excellent concept for a final villain in this series.
All Madara is as a villain is powerful, he's more fit to be a final villain in dbz than Naruto in my opinion.
 

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kishi saved the manga by making madara the final villain?

Lol so he can fight hashirama the main character?

Lol silly base.

Obito is more fit for the role of the main antagonist than anyone else. Including Madara. He's the EXACT opposite of the protagonist, he affected the protagonist, and made him the person he is today, and he affected Sasuke, the second main protagonist too.

He affected almost every character in the Narutoverse in some way, and caused this whole war.

Madara does not have any relation to the protagonist and the second protagonist. He isn't fit for the role.

While i agree with your reasoning for obito being the final villain, you guys are forgetting he has been madaras pawn all along, obito nagato and even akatsuki were all doing madaras bidding and on top of that obito was going around pretending to be madara for soo long.

i think madara is more relevant to kishis favorite charactor sasuke, i mean naruto and obito had the spotlight for how long and madara has jus been sitting there watching. its time for sasukes climax. no homo
 

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kishi saved the manga by making madara the final villain?

Lol so he can fight hashirama the main character?

Lol silly base.

Obito is more fit for the role of the main antagonist than anyone else. Including Madara. He's the EXACT opposite of the protagonist, he affected the protagonist, and made him the person he is today, and he affected Sasuke, the second main protagonist too.

He affected almost every character in the Narutoverse in some way, and caused this whole war.

Madara does not have any relation to the protagonist and the second protagonist. He isn't fit for the role.

tHESE two above said exactly what I wanted to say.

Manga's forshadowings,plot and everything will get destroyed if Madara becomes the final villain.

Btw I think Obito got played,and is gone.
 

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Obito, Madara does not have anything against the main character.

Final villain is the person who is relevant to the main character which obito is.

/thread

You have a point but Madara spent over 100 years planning for this and if he is not the final Villain then what was the purpose of Kishi using it as one of the plots?
 

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You have a point but Madara spent over 100 years planning for this and if he is not the final Villain then what was the purpose of Kishi using it as one of the plots?

but this show is about naruto, not about madara and Naruto has a problem with obito who is the exact opposite of Naruto.

Naruto was entrusted with the task to defeat obito and that is why they will have an epic fight in the end, Good vs Bad,

One who stayed good even with all the hardship VS the other who gave in to hatred.

Obito Vs naruto.
 

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Madara would be much better at controlling the Juubi than Obito because his ocular powers are far superior. Madara right now poses a bigger threat than Obito does.

Madara could have a fail safe in the Rinnegan that Obito has and that may be the turning point.
 

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Madara would be much better at controlling the Juubi than Obito because his ocular powers are far superior. Madara right now poses a bigger threat than Obito does.

Your arguments are so invalid. You're using Mada's power as an argument. An antagonist does NOT have to be powerful to be a main antagonist. And then, to your other comment, "Madara's reasons for being a villain is justifiable." No. Just no.

A good bad guy in a story is SUPPOSED to be unjustifiable. His actions, his motives, his reasons. They are ALL supposed to be unjustifiable.

The key to making a good villain is to make his motives unjustifiable, and to make the majority of the audience hate him. Kishi did that wonderfully. Madara just seems like an average antagonist, with nothing really special about him besides his abilities, which shouldn't even be mentioned, because like I said before, the main antagonist does not have to be a powerhouse. Madara just seems to be a one-dimensional character, who's level of complexity as a character is nowhere near Obito's. Kishi WORKED HARD on Obito. He added character depth, great character development, and he made everyone hate him. THAT'S a good antagonist.

We've seen multiple sides of Obito. We haven't seen even two of Madara, because he's just so simple. Having a simple character like that become a main antagonist? Bad storytelling.
 
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