Itachi vs Hashirama (READ)

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The Madara who fought Hashirama had no Rinnegan. The EMS has the same abilities as the MS.

Orly, where is Sasuke's/Itachi's Perfect Susanoo?

The MS can't see through clones, only the EMS can. This is shown by Madara seeing through Naruto's KBs while Obito could not.
 

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Orly, where is Sasuke's/Itachi's Perfect Susanoo?

The MS can't see through clones, only the EMS can. This is shown by Madara seeing through Naruto's KBs while Obito could not.

Prove me the PS is an EMS ability.
 

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Prove me the PS is an EMS ability.

I don't have to. Madara's EMS sees through clones, Obito's does not.

Thus the MS does not see through clones.

Another instance is Kakashi fooling Itachi with bunshins.

Come on mate, this is like Part 1 stuff.

2/10.
 

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I don't have to. Madara's EMS sees through clones, Obito's does not.

Thus the MS does not see through clones.

Another instance is Kakashi fooling Itachi with bunshins.

Come on mate, this is like Part 1 stuff.

2/10.

Maybe I'm wrong, tho it doesn't really matter cuz Hashirama stomps anyway.
And I also don't want to protect Itagay, let alone give him new feats XD
 

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He can see through the clones with his Sharingan.

Madara's Sharingan=/=Itachi's Sharingan. Madara has been fighting Hashirama his whole life and his Sharingan (All levels of his Sharingan) was able to see through clones yet no one else's was. All this means is that the perception of Madara's Sharingan is greater than that of any other Uchiha.
 

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Madara's Sharingan=/=Itachi's Sharingan. Madara has been fighting Hashirama his whole life and his Sharingan (All levels of his Sharingan) was able to see through clones yet no one else's was. All this means is that the perception of Madara's Sharingan is greater than that of any other Uchiha.

Where'd you got the bold from?

If that was true Nagato/Obito should be able to see through Naruto's clones.

I strongly believe it's the EMS part, which neither Nagato nor Obito can use.
 

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Where'd you got the bold from?

If that was true Nagato/Obito should be able to see through Naruto's clones.

I strongly believe it's the EMS part, which neither Nagato nor Obito can use.

Madara only had EMS for two fights against Hashirama. Once at VotE (Where seeing through Wood Clones didn't happen) and when he fought Hashirama after Izuna died. He mentioned as his old rival he was able to see through these, so I doubt that he was only able to see through them for only one battle against Hashirama.

All it would mean is that Madara's perception with Sharingan is better than the rest.
 

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The OP set up the thread to where Itachi will insta-tsukuyomi. He thinks prep time is making moku-bunshins or doing handseals. If that's the case, activating sharingan is prep time :|

Worst case scenario, Hashirama wins low diff.

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