Hiruzen's Nature Types

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Does anyone else think Hiruzen has more than two nature types?

He was called The Professor because of his vast knowledge of techniques but without more than two nature types, he wouldn't be able to access most of those techniques. Also, I believe he must have more than two because he lived a long life and I'm sure Kakashi stated that most shinobi master two or more nature types. Since Hiruzen was an advanced shinobi, I think he mastered more than two nature types.

The only reason I believe this is because Hiruzen seems really weak when compared to all Kage and I'm sure he must have more than what he's shown.
 

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He must know at least 3 or 4 of the basic natures, considering his age and that Sarutobi clan members are able to master high-level techniques (and probably chakra natures as well) with ease.
 

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Maybe.
You shouldn't say he seems weak because his only fight was in part 1 (different power levels) and against 2 edos (only RDS would work, why waste time spamming jutsus).
The truth is that he held his own against Oro + Exteremely nerfed Hashi + weak Tobirama. Also, keep in mind he wasn't in his prime anymore (therefore very nerfed too), because otherwise Oro would have been raped.
 

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Maybe.
You shouldn't say he seems weak because his only fight was in part 1 (different power levels) and against 2 edos (only RDS would work, why waste time spamming jutsus).
The truth is that he held his own against Oro + Exteremely nerfed Hashi + weak Tobirama. Also, keep in mind he wasn't in his prime anymore (therefore very nerfed too), because otherwise Oro would have been raped.
Orochimaru was toying with the old hag:yay:
No
Manda
8 branches
10, 000 snakes
Rashamon
 

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It doesn't really matter how many element can he use if he uses all of them on jounin level. Mastering an element ( or two ) on Kage level is better than having 3 or 4, but using them on fodder level.
 

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Orochimaru was toying with the old hag:yay:
No
Manda
8 branches
10, 000 snakes
Rashamon
Nonetheless, its canon that Oro + nerfed edo Hashi + nerfed edo Tobirama >/= Old Hiruzen.
Why would he summon Rashomon? The only attack he could block with that would be the 'weak' Katon Hiruzen used.
Could Manda or his Hydra Form fit in there, or properly fight in such a limited space?
He lost because of his arrogance, yes, but he also had the 1st and 2nd Hokages with him. Were they full strenght? No. But neither was Hiruzen.
Did it look like Hiruzen went all out against Oro? He had to use RDS on the other two, why tiring himself using jutsus that wouldn't work? By hype his arsenal is on pair/close to that of Hashi's.
 
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Maybe.
You shouldn't say he seems weak because his only fight was in part 1 (different power levels) and against 2 edos (only RDS would work, why waste time spamming jutsus).
The truth is that he held his own against Oro + Exteremely nerfed Hashi + weak Tobirama. Also, keep in mind he wasn't in his prime anymore (therefore very nerfed too), because otherwise Oro would have been raped.
So you think we'll see more of him?
 

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So you think we'll see more of him?
Maybe, maybe not.
Obviously he can fight 100 times better than he fought against Oro, but the way things are going i don't think Kishi will waste time focusing too much on his character, with Naruto, Sasuke, Hashirama and Minato being the priorities.
He already showed Hashirama is in fact a GoS.
By the way Tobirama is portrayed i think he's the one who will show off more (even more than Minato since Kishi only makes him use FTG all the time, no diversity at all).
Minato already has some good feats.
And there's Hiruzen who already had a opportunity to shine but plot ruined it. After that he got revived but portrayal puts him somewhat below Tobirama and is also the one who's appeared less/had the less impact. This makes me believe that we won't see Hiruzen as a GoS.
 
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