The most powerful Shinobi without Dōjutsu.

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Yeah okay... sure. Whatever you say. I forgot how pointless it is to debate with you.

No you forgot how to lose when you're wrong instead of crying about it and making up excuses to win an argument. ​

 

[Pecnut]

But you are hardly stupid right? lol tell me what DSM Kabuto can do sir? blinding jutsu? minato is a sensor. genjutsu. minato is a sensor which can tell if gnejustu is happening. everything else is a sure fail. If Minato is the fastest in the world and his speed is instantaneous please tell me how Kabuto is going to even react let alone dodge. ​

I think Kabuto has got some pretty good speed, he managed to dodge one of Susanoo's arrows.

 

[Smd]

You obviously do not know how top shinobi work, when talking about the strongest shinobi you put them in there prime/peak of power *facepalm*.

oh my bad.

thats not what the op said.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

I think Kabuto has got some pretty good speed, he managed to dodge one of Susanoo's arrows.

Kakashi MS can react to susanoo arrows and Minato pawned a sharingan user already sorry bro susanoo arrows aren't instantaneous. ​

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Hashirama, kabuto, oro,
the rest is fodders.

oro isn't even top10
Kabuto with Edo Tensei takes this

 

[Smd]

Umm that manga-shot is kind of out of context... Orochimaru was talking about Sasuke when he said "He was manipulated by Itachi..." Not Kabuto

you missed 50% of the manga scan.

-orochimaru saw everything kabuto did,
-kabuto needed stolend orochimaru dna to gain access to DSM/edo tensi
-orochimaru took back his powers from kabuto and left him with his own
-kabuto is stuck in izanami

 

[November]

The vote list should have had only 3 people whose names are hashirama, kabuto, orochimaru.

 

[Deadai]

But you are hardly stupid right? lol tell me what DSM Kabuto can do sir? blinding jutsu? minato is a sensor. genjutsu. minato is a sensor which can tell if gnejustu is happening. everything else is a sure fail. If Minato is the fastest in the world and his speed is instantaneous please tell me how Kabuto is going to even react let alone dodge. ​

1. Minato's sensing ability's have been shown by placing his finger's on the ground to sense the area how is that going to make any big difference?

2. Kabuto is a better senser then Minato is, capable of pre-predicting attacks

3. You have yet to tell me what in Minato's arsenal actually does any dmg to Kabuto. Minato will just ware himself out in this battle, he has not shown any great chakra reserves to handle Kabuto & his 38 edo's if you think he does you crazy.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Hashirama imo this thread should not be three pages for the obvious. Just my opinion.

 

[Pecnut]

you missed 50% of the manga scan.

-orochimaru saw everything kabuto did,
-kabuto needed stolend orochimaru dna to gain access to DSM/edo tensi
-orochimaru took back his powers from kabuto and left him with his own
-kabuto is stuck in izanami

Ok first of all even though Kabuto integrated Orochimaru's DNA with his own, he still had to train damn hard to achieve sage mode. Do you think DSM came automatically after Kabuto integrated Oro's DNA? You've got to have the potential, power and ability to become a sage, you can't just click your fingers and BOOM you're a sage.

And I was just talking about the bit where Orochimaru said "He was manipulated by Itachi..." It's in the wrong place, that bit was out of context because he wasn't talking about Kabuto he was talking about Sasuke.

 

[theacknowledgedone]

I think Kabuto has got some pretty good speed, he managed to dodge one of Susanoo's arrows.

A black chakra rod deflected it....lol

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I love how ppl bring Kcm too minato's arsenal when clearly that can only b achieved in Edo form I thought this was alive ninja .-. And Kcm won't count as his prime because he died before he can even use it

Even with Kcm

Hashirama orlchimaru kabuto(prime) and naruto >>>>>> minato with or without kcm

 

[Deadai]

Hashirama imo this thread should not be three pages for the obvious. Just my opinion.

Kabuto brings up edo Madara with edo Akatsuki as back up GG Hashirama.

 

[November]

oro isn't even top10
Kabuto with Edo Tensei takes this

oro with edo tensei, bro! U_U

 

[Sherlock.]

Hashi for now.... Minato if he shows some more hax powers.... =D =D

Definitely Naruto by EOS.... =D =D

 

[Pecnut]

A black chakra rod deflected it....lol

What the fck are you on?

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[Dęvîa Puęrî]

oro isn't even top10
Kabuto with Edo Tensei takes this

Go to sleep current orlchimaru is in top 5
Arms acess to 10k jutsu healthy senju body
And 3 Edo Kage perfect form and hydra mode sword of kansanji snake jutsu

I highly doubt anybody can **** with him in this war besides madara and hashirama o and the jubbi junjurchi god obito (too soon lmfao)

 

[Deadai]

What the fck are you on?

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He is referring to the recent chapter where Madara had Obito deflect Susanoo arrow with 3 black rods. Allthough dodging Susanoo arrow with what seems to be low difficulty itself is still a feat for speed.

 

[Haru70]

No you forgot how to lose when you're wrong instead of crying about it and making up excuses to win an argument. ​

In this picture is Kurama with both Yin/Yang chakra's:

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Shinsuusenju dwarfed him. Bee would be even smaller in that picture, because Kurama with both halves of his chakra is larger than Bee.

Now here is a picture of the Bomb that Minato warped:

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Notice Bee in the top panel. Kurama, before he lost the other half of his chakra, would be bigger in Bee's position, and he wouldn't be nearly as dwarfed as he was compared to Shinsuusenju.

IMO, the Bijuu Bomb was not as big as Shinsuusenju.

 

[blazekev90]

NONE of them match up to KABUTO or OROCHIMARU with EDO.

DSM kabuto is BA enough, adding his 30+ edo he defeats anyone.

Zetsu Body OROCHIMARU, obviously none has wood release, to what extent? It remains unknown but still a boost. This arguably grants him SM but still unknown. Nonetheless, his Edo owns all as well.