[Theory] Tobi was always Madara

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

This was not mytheory and I take no credit for this theory, I just wanted to advertise it The user 'Scorezor' gave me reason to believe that Tobi has always been Madara. Madara's soul in Obito's body. Madara being the more dominant figure in Tobi but Obito still having some of his own mind/character. I know it sounds crazy. But then I watched the video he sent me and it has soooo much supported evidence. The video was not made by me or Scorezor, but Scorezor's friend who created this theory with him. The punctuation is pretty terrible but the content is still very understandable! Please look at the video its a seriously good theory!!!

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[kekerot]

does that even matter?

 

[FreakensteinAG]

The misconception is that the only thing Madara gave Obito was a very special Zetsu to repair his body and give him Senju DNA. This, however, meant that he could control him from the inside out if he wished (what we just witnessed in this week's manga). There was no "soul" inserted, as Obito still retained his memories and personalities that attributed to being slightly affected by Kakashi's Talk no Jutsu.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

SIR, are you by any chance KARUCHIBI?? you now go by sozo banbutsu and yomi jutsu, or just a follower. maybe his friend is the guy who use to go by karuchibi but now is sozo banbutsu and yomi jutsu

if so. GET OVER IT, TOBI IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE OBITO. If that was not enough 599 was named obito uchiha just like 559 is Madara UCHIHA. both chapters clearly had the truth behind it, Tobi is OBITO. dont believe in this madara put his stuff or soul in obito. The man behind the mask will always be obito. dont matter what, a clone of madara was not saved by madara,,, OBITO WAS. LOOK.

Thats like saying Naruto is the kyuubi. because the kyuubi is in naruto! I saw his videos before and it was terrible and clearly a tobito hater. He is sooo obsessed. he is going around sawyer7Mage videos and fornever.ETC spaming this dumb theory that was disapproved LONG TIME AGO..

 

[Henchman24]

All Madara did was place his will inside of the Hashi cells that he attached to Obito. The same method he used when making Black Zetsu.

It is the same technique that was used here.

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Obito is still Obito. He is just subconsciously influenced by Madara's will.

 

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

Yeah well the comment above is pretty much kinda what I believe

 

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

SIR, are you by any chance KARUCHIBI?? you now go by sozo banbutsu and yomi jutsu, or just a follower. maybe his friend is the guy who use to go by karuchibi but now is sozo banbutsu and yomi jutsu

if so. GET OVER IT, TOBI IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE OBITO. If that was not enough 599 was named obito uchiha just like 559 is Madara UCHIHA. both chapters clearly had the truth behind it, Tobi is OBITO. dont believe in this madara put his stuff or soul in obito. The man behind the mask will always be obito. dont matter what, a clone of madara was not saved by madara,,, OBITO WAS. LOOK.

Thats like saying Naruto is the kyuubi. because the kyuubi is in naruto! I saw his videos before and it was terrible and clearly a tobito hater. He is sooo obsessed. he is going around sawyer7Mage videos and fornever.ETC spaming this dumb theory that was disapproved LONG TIME AGO..

I didn't understand a bunch of that? Don't be hating. Its just a theory someone has got me interested in. And I KNOW ITS OBITO. But I just believe he was controlled by Madara alot even after Madara died. It is reasonable because Oro wanted to make Sasuke his vessel, why is it so hard to believe maybe Badara wanted to do the same to Obito?

 

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

The misconception is that the only thing Madara gave Obito was a very special Zetsu to repair his body and give him Senju DNA. This, however, meant that he could control him from the inside out if he wished (what we just witnessed in this week's manga). There was no "soul" inserted, as Obito still retained his memories and personalities that attributed to being slightly affected by Kakashi's Talk no Jutsu.

Maybe not a soul. But I believe Tobi was practically just Madara in Obito's body most lot of the time

 

[scorezor]

SIR, are you by any chance KARUCHIBI?? you now go by sozo banbutsu and yomi jutsu, or just a follower. maybe his friend is the guy who use to go by karuchibi but now is sozo banbutsu and yomi jutsu

if so. GET OVER IT, TOBI IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE OBITO. If that was not enough 599 was named obito uchiha just like 559 is Madara UCHIHA. both chapters clearly had the truth behind it, Tobi is OBITO. dont believe in this madara put his stuff or soul in obito. The man behind the mask will always be obito. dont matter what, a clone of madara was not saved by madara,,, OBITO WAS. LOOK.

Thats like saying Naruto is the kyuubi. because the kyuubi is in naruto! I saw his videos before and it was terrible and clearly a tobito hater. He is sooo obsessed. he is going around sawyer7Mage videos and fornever.ETC spaming this dumb theory that was disapproved LONG TIME AGO..

dude you sir... are an ignorant dude , oh well , the only things that i have to say are these. obito or tobi or whatever you wanna call it , is indeed uchiha madara , first of all , read obito's flashback , 2nd , you see that black zetsu is a PART of uchiha madara's WILL (WILL , i'm not even going to explain what the world will means here) 3rd my "friend" when pain sacrificed himself to ress the konoha ninjas tobi said to BLACK ZETSU(yes another part of madara) that he had to ress HIMSELF (HIM) and btw , speaking about madara dude , did you even READ THE SAME THING AS I DID? O.O when edo-madara was summoned by EDO-TENSEI by KABUTO , he asked kabuto "how did you read the SECRETS of MY BODY?" and "what did you do to THIS BODY" which means that HIS BODY IS OTHER THAN HE IS USING RIGHT NOW AT EDO-TENSEI , and the secrets of his body , what do you think that he means by that? yeah right , also another question dude: why did tobi mentioned OROCHIMARU when sasuke was fighting danzo? HINT: CURSE MARK , HINT: when he got out from anko he explained how the curse mark works. another thing , in the chapter 636 we see OBITO BEING CONTROLLED BY MADARA why and how? it's very simple , a part of his body was madara's will , which means black zetsu(i bet that u saw the same thing as i did) was the one who said "my body... my body..." at the chapter 636 was uchiha madara . itachi wasn't fooled by some "BOTBITO" lol. yes , he is a bot and he is a pawn of madara . for ending this with a bang . don't get your hopes too high , okay? you will be trolled face . oh and btw , why do you think that madara is laughing in the chapter 637 when "obito" fails the rinne-tensei?

 

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

dude you sir... are an ignorant dude , oh well , the only things that i have to say is this. obito or tobi or whatever you wanna call it , is indeed uchiha madara , first of all , read obito's flashback , 2nd , you see that black zetsu is a PART of uchiha madara's WILL (WILL , i'm not even going to explain what the world will means here) 3rd my "friend" when pain sacrificed himself to ress the konoha ninjas tobi said to BLACK ZETSU(yes another part of madara) that he had to ress HIMSELF (HIM) and btw , speaking about madara dude , did you even READ THE SAME THING AS I DID? O.O when edo-madara was summoned by EDO-TENSEI by KABUTO , he asked kabuto "how did you read the SECRETS of MY BODY?" and "what did you do to THIS BODY" which means that HIS BODY IS OTHER THAN HE IS USING RIGHT NOW AT EDO-TENSEI , and the secrets of his body , what do you think that he means by that? yeah right , also another question dude: why did tobi mentioned OROCHIMARU when sasuke was fighting danzo? HINT: CURSE MARK , HINT: when he got out from anko he explained how the curse mark works. another thing , in the chapter 636 we see OBITO BEING CONTROLLED BY MADARA why and how? it's very simple , a part of his body was madara's will , which means black zetsu(i bet that u saw the same thing as i did) the one who said "my body... my body..." at the chapter 636 was uchiha madara . itachi wasn't fooled by some "BOTBITO" lol. yes , he is a bot and he is a pawn of madara . for ending this with a bang . don't get your hopes too high , okay? you will be trolled face . oh and btw , why do you think that madara is laughing in the chapter 637 when "obito" fails the rinne-tensei?

this is still a nice theory but I don't know how it works out now because obito is actually going at his own will trying to become the 10 tails Jin, and I think he already is now? I think Madara was laughing at sasuke arrow attempt.. Just gotta see how things go

 

[scorezor]

this is still a nice theory but I don't know how it works out now because obito is actually going at his own will trying to become the 10 tails Jin, and I think he already is now? I think Madara was laughing at sasuke arrow attempt.. Just gotta see how things go

not at all , the one that dodged sasuke's arrow was madara , (the black zetsu) because u see in a certain panel that he controlled a part of obito body (again the black zetsu) to do that... so... for that matter , it was madara who did that , the reason that he is laughing... oh well... i'll wait and see . thank you for sending me this thread mate in a private message .

 

[Thorium]

If this was true, then all of Obito's character development would go down the drain. Something that Kishimoto just surprisingly preserved in the last few chapters by allowing Obito to resist Madara and make his own decision, even when he was being controlled by him in a weakened physical state.

Sorry, but the answer to this theory = NO.

 

[scorezor]

If this was true, then all of Obito's character development would go down the drain. Something that Kishimoto just surprisingly preserved in the last few chapters by allowing Obito to resist Madara and make his own decision, even when he was being controlled by him in a weakened physical state.

Sorry, but the answer to this theory = NO.

lool , mate ... do you know the meaning of madara's will? if so , then tell me that , please...

 

[xcoyote]

lool , mate ... do you know the meaning of madara's will? if so , then tell me that , please...

stop it its embarassing...Tobi is Obito end of story...

 

[scorezor]

stop it its embarassing...Tobi is Obito end of story...

orly? man , stfu really...... REALLY U SHOULD STFU , why? i'm gonna answer you with this question: why dind't kishimoto showed us the rest of the flashback of tobi? or by your means "OBITO"? like for example... the manipulation of kirigakure... and the massacre of the uchiha ? for now is all that i remember ... so , answer to me that! and don't give me a stupid answer ... cm'on man , and btw , kishimoto gave you a plotwist recently hint: "the other half of black zetsu"

 

[xcoyote]

orly? man , stfu really...... REALLY U SHOULD STFU , why? i'm gonna answer you with this question: why dind't kishimoto showed us the rest of the flashback of tobi? or by your means "OBITO"? like for example... the manipulation of kirigakure... and the massacre of the uchiha ? for now is all that i remember ... so , answer to me that! and don't give me a stupid answer ... cm'on man , and btw , kishimoto gave you a plotwist recently hint: "the other half of black zetsu"

all i see: hurr durr my shitty fanfic is right not the manga facts..

 

[scorezor]

all i see: hurr durr my shitty fanfic is right not the manga facts..

ok , bye , u don't give me a logical answer , so that was a complete waste of my time , have fun with your shitty obito fan base , while i will laugh when tobidara shows up . have fun , really... enjoy while you can .

 

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

Could go either way right now tbh. But Tobidara would be interesting.

 

[Observer]

Hmmmm

 

[Orochimagus]

Give the hell up. Manga ended with the answers being given. Obito was pretending to be Madara and wanted the plan for himself. He got angry when Kabuto revived Madara because that interfered with his plan of doing things alone. Madara was but a puppet.