Minato is a Jinchuriki

[Bogard]

There have been a lot of discussion concerning this matter, whether he is a pseudo Jinchuriki(only possess Kyubi's chakra), or a Jinchuriki(with Kyubi inside him). After thinking about it, i came to the conclusion that he is infact a Jinchuriki(he does possess a half Kyubi in him). I'll explain:

Remember that

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inside himself, Kyubi's size reduced greatly

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And when you look at the above panel, it seems that the remaining Kyubi isn't even half as huge as his former self, so it's safe to assume that Minato infact sealed more than half of Kyubi within himself(which would mean that the yin chakra is actually not only darker but also greater than the yang part)

As a comparison lets take Kyubi when

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This is how he looks

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Like you can see, we don't observe a decrease in size at all, only a more squeletic form and it's safe to assume that the FRS he received served to weaken him to this state

This shows that if Minato only took Kyubi's chakra like some people think, Kyubi shouldn't have decrease in size at all. It leads then us to the conclusion that Minato does possess Kyubi inside(the yin and dark part of it). So Minato is a Jinchuriki

Now i'd also like to explain the reason why Minato has KCM. People think it's plot. Well, it's far from being the case. Remember what Sarutobi said

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"The soul sealed together will battle for all eternity"

So the fact that Minato sealed the yin chakra of Kyubi along with him means that they were fighting for all eternity inside the God of Death's belly. The fact that Minato has KCM simply means that Minato won the battle against Kyubi

It would also explain why Kyubi was shocked and surprised after Minato turning into that mode

So like you can see it is not a plot hole. Maybe Kishi will further explain later at some point

 

[Cursed Prince]

Kishi wont explain further, he never explains further Lol

 

[Guntah]

The term Is Pseudo Jinchuriki, a being that possess the Bijuu chakra but not the Bijuu itself (theres a lot of them in fillers Sora, Fukai, Ginkaku, Kinkaku and now Minato)

 

[Bogard]

Kishi wont explain further, he never explains further Lol

Lol that's true, but i'm pretty sure it will be the case since i believe we'll see both Minato and Naruto turn into complete BM, so there he would have no other choice but explaining it

The term Is Pseudo Jinchuriki, a being that possess the Bijuu chakra but not the Bijuu itself (theres a lot of them in fillers SOra, Fukai, Ginkaku, Kinkaku and now Minato)

That shows you didn't read OP at all

 

[Kαmi]

Interesting points indeed. However I have to disagree. The reason for this is because Minato doesn't have the soul of the Kyuubi, he doesn't have Kurama himself inside of him, that's what Naruto has. Whether he has the chakra or not, he does not have the actual tailed beast in him which is what defines a Jinchuuriki. You can split up chakra but you can't split up souls. Unless Minato is able to use creation of all things like SO6P, I can't agree that Minato split up the Kyuubi's soul and has his own Kurama inside of him, which we know he doesn't.

 

[Guntah]

That shows you didn't read OP at all

Now i did. Makes sense, its well done. But i dont think Kishi will explain it.

 

[Imperfect]

Nice read, but I'm still sticking to the theory that he only has chakra with no conscience.

Just like how Minato's representation of chakra inside Naruto knew about everything leading up to the Pain arc, but Edo Minato was slightly surprised to see Rasenshuriken, Kurama had no idea of what took place inside the reaper death seal.

Still you made a good case, and this is where I would tip my hat to you... IF I HAD ONE!!! XD

 

[Edo Odin]

Lol that's true, but i'm pretty sure it will be the case since i believe we'll see both Minato and Naruto turn into complete BM, so there he would have no other choice but explaining it

However, BM would require the Kyuubi's (The one sealed inside Minato) consent, something that he'd never give. Like Hiruzen stated in the scan you posted, 'The souls will mingle, hating each other and battling the other for all eternity' This being the case, the chances of the Kyuubi giving Minato his chakra freely are zero, meaning that Minato can only go as far as KCM, since he has apparently gone down the same road Naruto went, and taken the Chakra by force.

 

[take it easy]

wrong. minato pseudo jinchuuriki like sora or kin gin bros.

 

[Javaweb]

He's not a jinchuriki it's just that he has the nine tails chakra but not the beast inside of him. It's like from the Naruto filler with Sora. He has some of the nine tails chakra but he is not a jinchuriki. The Gold and Silver Brothers have some of the Nine Tails chakra in them but there not a jinchuriki. He's a pseudo jinchuriki. For more I do check Narutopedia and search Jinchuriki

 

[GrayParadise]

10/10 thread.
I agree. It's only a matter of time before he pulls out Bijuu Mode.

wrong. minato pseudo jinchuuriki like sora or kin gin bros.

He's not a jinchuriki it's just that he has the nine tails chakra but not the beast inside of him. It's like from the Naruto filler with Sora. He has some of the nine tails chakra but he is not a jinchuriki. The Gold and Silver Brothers have some of the Nine Tails chakra in them but there not a jinchuriki. He's a pseudo jinchuriki. For more I do check Narutopedia and search Jinchuriki

Guys
Guys.
Cmon guys, seriously guys.
Guys.
Reading is fundamental.

 

[Bogard]

Interesting points indeed. However I have to disagree. The reason for this is because Minato doesn't have the soul of the Kyuubi, he doesn't have Kurama himself inside of him, that's what Naruto has. Whether he has the chakra or not, he does not have the actual tailed beast in him which is what defines a Jinchuuriki. You can split up chakra but you can't split up souls. Unless Minato is able to use creation of all things like SO6P, I can't agree that Minato split up the Kyuubi's soul and has his own Kurama inside of him, which we know he doesn't.

Yes he does. He sealed the yin of Kyubi inside him, which represent the dark side of the Kyubi. Remember what he said

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I'll lead the nine tails away with Shiki fujin. He didn't only sealed the chakra, but the entity itself. Only that he couldn't have been able to seal it all

 

[OWanime]

dude I agree with you all the way because the bijuu have conscience as well so it's like how orochimaru is in each curse seal xd it's debatable but you can't deny this side

 

[Bogard]

However, BM would require the Kyuubi's (The one sealed inside Minato) consent, something that he'd never give. Like Hiruzen stated in the scan you posted, 'The souls will mingle, hating each other and battling the other for all eternity' This being the case, the chances of the Kyuubi giving Minato his chakra freely are zero, meaning that Minato can only go as far as KCM, since he has apparently gone down the same road Naruto went, and taken the Chakra by force.

Minato's mode currently has both markings(from KCM and BM), which only appeared on Naruto when he got Kyubi's consent, so i suppose he is a Perfect Jinchuriki currently as well

 

[GrayParadise]

He's not a jinchuriki it's just that he has the nine tails chakra but not the beast inside of him. It's like from the Naruto filler with Sora. He has some of the nine tails chakra but he is not a jinchuriki. The Gold and Silver Brothers have some of the Nine Tails chakra in them but there not a jinchuriki. He's a pseudo jinchuriki. For more I do check Narutopedia and search Jinchuriki

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this isn't at all accurate. Hiruzen and Oro disprove this.

When they were fighting and Hiruzen sealed up Oro, he only sealed a portion of his soul, the part containing his arms. By yyour logic this would be impossible, a deal or no deal jutsu.

 

[Bogard]

Nice read, but I'm still sticking to the theory that he only has chakra with no conscience.

Just like how Minato's representation of chakra inside Naruto knew about everything leading up to the Pain arc, but Edo Minato was slightly surprised to see Rasenshuriken, Kurama had no idea of what took place inside the reaper death seal.

Still you made a good case, and this is where I would tip my hat to you... IF I HAD ONE!!! XD

He has the soul as well. Just look at this pic:

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Kyubi's soul was trapped together with Minato's. The Shiki fujin technique takes souls, not chakra

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I disagree for simple reasons:

1. If Minato was capable of becoming Kurama's Jinchuuriki then Konoha would not have needed to import Kushina from Uzushiogakure, the only reason Minato is currently capable of utilizing Kurama's Yin Chakra is because he has an Edo Body. Like the Kin-Gin Brothers a living person needs tremendous lifeforce and chakra to handle the raw Kyuubi's power (I say "raw" because the Kyuubi Cloak the Shinobi Alliance received was already modified by Naruto with the cooperation of Kurama)

2. Minato needs Kurama's cooperation in order to synchronize the Yin Chakra inside his Edo Body with the Kyuubi inside Naruto in order to utilize it, without Kurama's cooperation, Minato would be incapable of using it at all:

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3. The only reason Minato even has the KCM Cloak right now is because Kishimoto is stalling Naruto to receive Kurama's Yin Half because something "big" will happen, Minato's current mode is only a plot device to stall/delay Naruto's powerup.

 

[Penguin]

I disagree, but to each his own.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

And no, Minato did not seal Kurama's "soul" with the Shiki Fuujin, only the Yin part of its chakra, the mechanics are different with regards to Orochimaru's arms, Orochimaru's arms were the arms of a real soul, Kurama's Yin Half is just chakra, that is why the former (Oro's arms) could not be assimilated with Hiruzen's own soul since no two things can occupy the same space at the same time.

Kurama's Yin Chakra is just that, chakra, capable of being assimilated inside a soul. To further cement this, take a look at the difference in effects between Kurama's sealing and Oro's sealing, in Orochimaru's case, the use of ninjutsu requiring hand seals has been completely sealed away from him because the arm part of his soul was truly lost, while in Kurama's case, he is still able to use the techniques of Bijuus like Bijuudama, that is because only his Yin Chakra was missing, the only thing that was limited is the energy output of Kurama's Bijuudama since half of his chakra was taken away but none the less he was still capable of using it.

From this we can clearly see the substantial difference between Orochimaru's and Kurama's sealing with RDS, the former truly lost a part of his soul while the latter merely lost his chakra.

 

[Bogard]

1. If Minato was capable of becoming Kurama's Jinchuuriki then Konoha would not have needed to import Kushina from Uzushiogakure, the only reason Minato is currently capable of utilizing Kurama's Yin Chakra is because he has an Edo Body. Like the Kin-Gin Brothers a living person needs tremendous lifeforce and chakra to handle the raw Kyuubi's power (I say "raw" because the Kyuubi Cloak the Shinobi Alliance received was already modified by Naruto with the cooperation of Kurama)

Minato only has half(or more) of Kyubi. Nothing says he could have handled 100% Kyubi. It's for that reason Kushina was better since her chakra was strong enough to hold Kyubi inside her. Not only that but at that point, Minato was still young. It's not as if people even knew about his capacities that much. Uzumaki on the other hand were well-known for the strength of their chakra especially after Mito's passage in konoha. So it's not for nothing that they decided to take Kushina there. If Kushina wasn't there they would have played lotterie like Kumo did, with people sometime dying in vain. Holding a Bijuu inside yourself isn't that particularly strange especially since we have seen plenty of Jinchurikis who are not from Uzumaki clan starting from Killer-Bee