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1- Minato is Hashirama's level
2- Bee is stronger than Uchiha bros
3- Kakuzu can defeat Itachi
4- Hiashi is kage level

There are probably more but i don't remember currently
 

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Oh, and one more thing. Kiba is a beast. I feel like he's highly underrated and deserves some kind of success. He's in the same boat as Anko; two great characters who were wasted.
 

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Oh, and one more thing. Kiba is a beast. I feel like he's highly underrated and deserves some kind of success. He's in the same boat as Anko; two great characters who were wasted.

Kishi has thrown away tons of great characters K11, and the Kage body guards being just a few. Oh, and Yamato too.
 

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1. Kakashi is above Uchiha brothers.
2. Minato is on par with Hashirama.
3. Naruto beats everyone apart from Minato and Hashirama.
4. Might Guy is above Uchiha brothers.
 

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Fixed a few things. But yes I agree. Although I do believe Kishi was at least fair in telling us "If you ain't an uchiha or some kinda senju/uzumaki I don't care about you."
And that's what I don't like. By that logic, why did he even introduce the other characters? There was no point if they weren't going to contribute anything. Waste of designs, if I must say.
 

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I think nowadays Kishi is rushing things .. for instance Sasuke turning good .. one story about the past and the hatred Sasuke had is all gone .. like da hell? .. And Sakura's power-up .. I'm sorry but that was terrible .. I knew she would get that bead thing on her head .. but I think Kishi should have foreshadowed that a few chapters during the war .. because to be honest it felt kind of random .. And even after she got it .. she punched like a few clones and now is on the sidelines with Sai .. I mean if you are gonna give her a power up then why didn't you make her stick with Naruto like Sasuke is .. I mean she's a main character too :| .
 

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1 orochimaru(without edo tensei) is stronger than minato
2 Rinnegan obito is stronger than edo madara
3 Kakuzu is stronger than hebi sasuke
 

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But it's true. The Rinnegan does require Senju DNA with Uchiha's ;)

A year ago it wasnt. Infact it was considered blasphemy to suggest the mighty Uchihas needed the help of the vastly inferior senju fodders to awaken their true doujutsu.
 

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A year ago it wasnt. Infact it was considered blasphemy to suggest the mighty Uchihas needed the help of the vastly inferior senju fodders to awaken their true doujutsu.

Well who's laughing now? Lol

Those were the same people who ridiculed theorists saying Tobi=Obito ;) such a blazing fail of a release. Lol
 

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I think nowadays Kishi is rushing things .. for instance Sasuke turning good .. one story about the past and the hatred Sasuke had is all gone .. like da hell? .. And Sakura's power-up .. I'm sorry but that was terrible .. I knew she would get that bead thing on her head .. but I think Kishi should have foreshadowed that a few chapters during the war .. because to be honest it felt kind of random .. And even after she got it .. she punched like a few clones and now is on the sidelines with Sai .. I mean if you are gonna give her a power up then why didn't you make her stick with Naruto like Sasuke is .. I mean she's a main character too :| .


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Does this look like the face of good to you?
 

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-I really don't like Naruto and Sasuke's characters, they're just plain annoying to me now.
-Obito is one of, if not the best villain in the series IMO.
-Obito was and IS Tobi, people say they are different characters.
-Ths prophecy ruined Naruto's character completely.
-Madara is boring and cliche.
-Lee, Gai and Neji all needed more development as they were the most comedic characters in the series.
-Minato's character isn't interesting.
-Nagato's conversion was handled well.
-Sakura isn't useless.
-Characters like Anko and Shizune had good potential but Kishi did not develop on them.
-Uchihas are actually well written characters
-Itachi is like a Mary Sue
-Powers in part 2 should have been handled better. We go from part 1 kunais and shurikens to meteors?
-Hinata is one-dimensional.
-Kabuto is an interesting character.
-Flashbacks are great for the story.
-VS Threads are annoying.
-And what really annoys me is when people say 'Kishi doesn't care about his own manga' of course he does, he could spending time with his children but instead wants to write the story for his fans.

Edit: I take back the Itachi being the Mary Sue. At least be actually admitted himself that he failed.
 
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Well who's laughing now? Lol

Those were the same people who ridiculed theorists saying Tobi=Obito ;) such a blazing fail of a release. Lol
Actually I was one of those :heh: . I still think its ridiculous.
 

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Sasori can stomp Itachi.

Kishimoto ****ed up part 2

The war is was boring for some time.
 

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Am I the only person who thinks Kishi is the biggest sexist ever?

I don't know if that is popular or unpopular.
 

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Kishi has thrown away tons of great characters K11, and the Kage body guards being just a few. Oh, and Yamato too.
Exactly. All of them had great potential, and it was just wasted, and now he's trying to cram everything in at the last minute, when it should've been done throughout the manga itself, leading up to this point. Speaking of Yamato, where is he and what's his current condition? It seems as if nobody is interested in finding him.
 

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Does this look like the face of good to you?

What's wrong with saying "Burn" to your enemy .. I agree he isn't completely good yet .. But still .. I meant his decision of protecting the village .. because 40 chapters ago .. he was still the dude who HATED the village .. and now he wants to protect it? .. I know you can have a change of heart .. but Hate doesn't quickly go opposite .. it takes time .. and I think Kishi rushed that part U_U .
 

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Well who's laughing now? Lol

Those were the same people who ridiculed theorists saying Tobi=Obito ;) such a blazing fail of a release. Lol
To be fair here, I never truly believed that Obito was Tobi. It made little to no sense. Obito survived the rock, somehow turned evil, most likely due to Madara, and then was on par with THE Yellow Flash when he was originally a chuunin new to the sharingan not too long ago?

Oh, and he controlled Kurama and Kurama made some comment like "You, I remember you". Or such.

It made more sense for Tobi to be someone else. For the longest time the name itself was seen as "proof". Up until, perhaps, ten chapters or a little before the reveal it still could have been some one else and anyone could put up an argument for it.
 
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