Taking Down Madara

[S A G E]

Really? Could you show me the manga page, because if he can use the rinnegan abilities half as good as nagato then i say hands down he is the best but he hasnt shown any. Also gravity would bring them down, the size of them he would not even need to pull them down

It is assumed, its like saying the sage wasn't as proficient with rinnegan compared to Nagato.
You can't provide a proof either that Madara can't so well just have to wait now, shouldn't we?
Also deva paths ability (shinra tensei and bansho tennin) is not just gravity, its also using attractive (pull) and repulsive (push) forces, that's how he pulled down the meteors.
Madara has already used bansho tennin (attractive) ability, he'll use that against minato.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Edo Itachi>Edo Madara? LOL NOPE

Itachi would get stomped if they weren't Edo, what makes you think them being edo makes any difference?

Madara with limited Chakra would ****ing stomp Itachi with limited chakra
Madara with UNLIMITED chakra would assrape Itachi with unlimited chakra.

Well for one no chakra or stamina strain on itachi allowing him to effectively use his jutsu and a superior mind to madara who is to chilled out which is either because he is so powerful or cause he is foolish. I believe abit of both.

And how would that happen vs ems user with shinra tensei susanoo gravity control?
Kunais dont tend to be so fast.

When has he shown any gravity controll or the use of shinra tensei?

 

[Clouds]

Thats quite a predicament, hmm well i guess i would say what would madara do if minato just stands on the susanoos head and moves around its body like an annoying fly? Its weakness is its size i guess minato could call his frogs and trip it up and hope to seal it as it is made of chakra and minato sealed and split up the kyuubi.



That is true though i think he would be able to seal the susanoo as it is chakra

That would mean he stands still and get hit by amaterasu. >.>

 

[KingHashirama]

Nah Haven't seen anything that makes him unbeatable by the Shodaime.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

It is assumed, its like saying the sage wasn't as proficient with rinnegan compared to Nagato.
You can't provide a proof either that Madara can't so well just have to wait now, shouldn't we?
Also deva paths ability (shinra tensei and bansho tennin) is not really gravity, its using attractive (pull) and repulsive (push) forces, that's how he pulled down the meteors.
Madara has already used bansho tennin (attractive) ability, he'll use that against minato.

Ok its just i try not to assume and your right i cant prove that i guess we will have to wait and see. That is true though it does imitate gravity and it is alot easier to say gravity than attract and repulse. Even if he did use bansho tennin whats to stop minato from teleporting?

 

[AlphaScythian]

When has he shown any gravity controll or the use of shinra tensei?

Dont play stupid, he knows all of what nagato knew. Its his eyes and his mastery, and his eye programming that allowed to kill fodders with a simple glare, and his rods, and his meteors, and his gedo, his plan and his dream.
Minato is nothing in face of madara

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

That would mean he stands still and get hit by amaterasu. >.>

Ok, i give up madara wins. Now i really hope minato beats him in the manga however unlikely that is.

 

[Revengedace]

Madara too much of a Tank man lol

 

[Amaterasuice]

Wait, come to think of it, Madara released himself from the jutsu. Could he release Minato from it as well?

If Minato had control over his body like Madara has, we need to think of the variables on both sides.

We can assume Madara has human path, but since we haven't actually seen it, I'll take it out of the equation. He probably has other sealing techniques as well, but whateves.

Madara has wood dragon, fire/water/earth jutsu, infinate chakra, immortality, multiple mokuton clones, perfect susanoo, meteroites, the preta path, and genjutsu.

Minato has infinate chakra, half of kurama's chakra, rasengan, few clones, RDS, and ftg.

On one hand, Madara clearly has the more power, but not a single sealing technique we know of (besides probably human path).

Minato has a lot less power (tbh), but has a sealing technique. Seeing how strong Madara is, only one of the RDS's caliber would probably hold Madara permanently. But as fast as Minato is, RDS is a slow technique, and if Minato activates the jutsu, Madara could just break lose and just lose arms like Orochimaru did, and Minato would lose his life. So Minato would probably know that's a bad idea against someone like him and do nothing.

So without human path or the suspection that Madara has at least a basic sealing technique, this will be a annoyingly long fight. Mostly Minato dodging and thinking, "You know? Getting hit with meteorites that destroy my seals suck."

While Madara is thinking, "Blondes are annoying. If I had just went to sealing practice with my bro, this wouldn't happen."

But, Madara probably has Human path and that should be able to seal Minato.

 

[S A G E]

Ok its just i try not to assume and your right i cant prove that i guess we will have to wait and see. That is true though it does imitate gravity and it is alot easier to say gravity than attract and repulse. Even if he did use bansho tennin whats to stop minato from teleporting?

I guess its a matter of how fast Madara will be able to pull Minato depending on speed of his jutsu and distance where the target it, vs how fast Minato will be able to teleport before the jutsu allowed Madara to touch him and use Human paths sealing ability.

However it's still a fact that Madara can't be harmed by Minato either, since its too dangerous for him to get close and sealed.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Dont play stupid, he knows all of what nagato knew. Its his eyes and his mastery, and his eye programming that allowed to kill fodders with a simple glare, and his rods, and his meteors, and his gedo, his plan and his dream.
Minato is nothing in face of madara

Lol ok im going to wait and see then, i hope he displays some rinnegan powers or i guess i will get to say i told you so =D

Wait, come to think of it, Madara released himself from the jutsu. Could he release Minato from it as well?

If Minato had control over his body like Madara has, we need to think of the variables on both sides.

We can assume Madara has human path, but since we haven't actually seen it, I'll take it out of the equation. He probably has other sealing techniques as well, but whateves.

Madara has wood dragon, fire/water/earth jutsu, infinate chakra, immortality, multiple mokuton clones, perfect susanoo, meteroites, the preta path, and genjutsu.

Minato has infinate chakra, half of kurama's chakra, rasengan, few clones, RDS, and ftg.

On one hand, Madara clearly has the more power, but not a single sealing technique we know of (besides probably human path).

Minato has a lot less power (tbh), but has a sealing technique. Seeing how strong Madara is, only one of the RDS's caliber would probably hold Madara permanently. But as fast as Minato is, RDS is a slow technique, and if Minato activates the jutsu, Madara could just break lose and just lose arms like Orochimaru did, and Minato would lose his life. So Minato would probably know that's a bad idea against someone like him and do nothing.

So without human path or the suspection that Madara has at least a basic sealing technique, this will be a annoyingly long fight. Mostly Minato dodging and thinking, "You know? Getting hit with meteorites that destroy my seals suck."

While Madara is thinking, "Blondes are annoying. If I had just went to sealing practice with my bro, this wouldn't happen."

But, Madara probably has Human path and that should be able to seal Minato.

I agree lol that was great to read, still not sure if he has human path but if he did i guess minato would happen to be screwed.

I guess its a matter of how fast Madara will be able to pull Minato depending on speed of his jutsu and distance where the target it, vs how fast Minato will be able to teleport before the jutsu allowed Madara to touch him and use Human paths sealing ability.

However it's still a fact that Madara can't be harmed by Minato either, since its too dangerous for him to get close and sealed.

I could not agree more though im not sure if he has human path sealing abilities.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Lol ok im going to wait and see then, i hope he displays some rinnegan powers or i guess i will get to say i told you so =D

Didnt he display preta? Inyuton? Rods require outer, right? Meteorites are most likely bansho tensei on humongous scale.
Why in hell would others be left out?

 

[griffnat13]

how about spamming meteorites?

Yes, that and Minato couldn't get inside any of Madara's susanoos. Honestly, I like Minato, but I think that he is a LOT of hype.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Didnt he display preta? Inyuton? Rods require outer, right? Meteorites are most likely bansho tensei on humongous scale.
Why in hell would others be left out?

I honestly dont remember him using preta path ever, if anyone could get the image that would be awesome. Im sure your imagining him using preta path, i have no clue what inyuton is and yes i think the rods do, im not so sure about that because he kinda created them instantly whereas pein/nagato had to take some time to do that

 

[AlphaScythian]

I honestly dont remember him using preta path ever, if anyone could get the image that would be awesome. Im sure your imagining him using preta path, i have no clue what inyuton is and yes i think the rods do, im not so sure about that because he kinda created them instantly whereas pein/nagato had to take some time to do that

Dude preta was used to absorb FRS and jinton, the very fist panels of rinnegan madara. Inyuton are rods.
Nagato had that glare kill shit i think its human path, i think madara programmed it to protect his investment, which proves his skill over nagato.

 

[Acid Ace]

Make a Tl;DR please, thanks.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Dude preta was used to absorb FRS and jinton, the very fist panels of rinnegan madara. Inyuton are rods.
Nagato had that glare kill shit i think its human path, i think madara programmed it to protect his investment, which proves his skill over nagato.

Damn your right, i guess i forgot, i googled it and your right he absorbs it but not properly cause he was using susanoo. The ability to absorb jutsu i gotta say that alone makes you powerful. I still think minato has a chance but now im leaning towards madara. I hope he displays more rinnegan powers. P.s Glare kill shit?

Make a Tl;DR please, thanks.

What is TL;DR?

 

[FleeOnSight]

Actually minato beating Madara is debatable. As Madara does not have a thing that can hit minato. People like to say meteors and ps. But he's shown that he can evade large attacks such as juubi tbb. Which is > meteor and he can simply ftg away from attacks or s/t barrier attacks. As for offense with his kind of speed and ability to place a seal on you with just contact and no hand seal he has a legit chance at beating Madara. IMO.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Damn your right, i guess i forgot, i googled it and your right he absorbs it but not properly cause he was using susanoo. The ability to absorb jutsu i gotta say that alone makes you powerful. I still think minato has a chance but now im leaning towards madara. I hope he displays more rinnegan powers. P.s Glare kill shit?

Yes, nagato killed leaf fodders with it. I think madara programmed it for life threatening situations to protect his everything (eyes) just like itachi did with amaterasu in sasuke.

 

[TrollingSage]

Wait, come to think of it, Madara released himself from the jutsu. Could he release Minato from it as well?

If Minato had control over his body like Madara has, we need to think of the variables on both sides.

We can assume Madara has human path, but since we haven't actually seen it, I'll take it out of the equation. He probably has other sealing techniques as well, but whateves.

Madara has wood dragon, fire/water/earth jutsu, infinate chakra, immortality, multiple mokuton clones, perfect susanoo, meteroites, the preta path, and genjutsu.

Minato has infinate chakra, half of kurama's chakra, rasengan, few clones, RDS, and ftg.

On one hand, Madara clearly has the more power, but not a single sealing technique we know of (besides probably human path).

Minato has a lot less power (tbh), but has a sealing technique. Seeing how strong Madara is, only one of the RDS's caliber would probably hold Madara permanently. But as fast as Minato is, RDS is a slow technique, and if Minato activates the jutsu, Madara could just break lose and just lose arms like Orochimaru did, and Minato would lose his life. So Minato would probably know that's a bad idea against someone like him and do nothing.

So without human path or the suspection that Madara has at least a basic sealing technique, this will be a annoyingly long fight. Mostly Minato dodging and thinking, "You know? Getting hit with meteorites that destroy my seals suck."

While Madara is thinking, "Blondes are annoying. If I had just went to sealing practice with my bro, this wouldn't happen."

But, Madara probably has Human path and that should be able to seal Minato.

First of all, Madara's strength doesn't mean he cant be sealed by anything other than RDS. He just has to be killed before sealing, like all the other edos. The five element seal should get the job done, if Minato manages to kill him.
Secondly, Hiruzen was unable to pull Oro's soul because he was too old and weak, not mention injured.
Once the reaper grabs Madara, there's nothing he can do about it.