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In the "Obito breaking from Madara's control was implied." thread, BlastIt says
1. I go with the idea that Obito's willpower and Hashi's cells prevented him from dying as a sacrifice for the Rinne Tensei. But if that wasn't the case, how do you think Obito survived?
2. If Edo Madara was able of having Obito be the sacrifice for the Rinne Tensei and Madara was resurrected, would that mean that Madara's soul in his Edo Tensei form leaves Edo Madara and moves to the actual Madara, or does it mean that there would be an Edo Madara and Madara's real body?
3. Also, what I don't get is, even if an Edo clone is immortal, couldn't Edo Madara just do self-sacrifice to resurrect his actual body and not need Obito as the sacrifice?
4. If Black Zetsu was incapacitated by Choujouro's sword and White Zetsu is dead, how is there, how were both in forming Obito's head (the part when Obito said "Sensei")?
5. Similarly, how was it before the above happened that Obito's face shifted from having the Obito and Spiral Zetsu form to the Obito and Black Zetsu form?
As shown from last chapter, when Obito was yelling about his body, it appears that Black Zetsu was beginning to emerge.
6. Did Obito become the Juubi jinchuuriki because the Juubi broke out of the torii gate and then bonded with Obito (probably off panel for a moment because we don't see Obito jumping towards the Juubi and offering his body to it)?
That weird thing after the panel of the Juubi arms grabbing Naruto and Sasuke might be the Juubi merging with Oibto.
7. From ch. 467.
If the Juubi was such strong chakra that the Rikudou Sennin had to use the last of his strength to use Banbutsu Souzou to divide the Juubi into the Bijuu and used his Chibaku Tensei to seal the Juubi into the moon, even for the Sage, that would require using chakra on a level that probably kill even an EMS/Mokuton/Rinnegan-wielding Madara from using. Even with these 3 mighty jutsu, Madara still couldn't hold a candle against the Sage.
I think the Sage in part sealed the Juubi away because even his body couldn't handle that much chakra.
I think that the Sage having the Juubi in his body would eventually be too much even for him to carry. If that's the case, even if all 9 Bijuu were completely sealed into the Gedo Mazou, why would Obito and Madara think that they could control it?
Willpower/Resolve is an overlooked factor. Thats the same reason Minato/Kushina can still talk to baby Naruto even after getting impaled by Kurama. Its also the reason why Jiraiya practically resurrected himself even after getting stab in the back several times by Nagato. Great thread
1. I go with the idea that Obito's willpower and Hashi's cells prevented him from dying as a sacrifice for the Rinne Tensei. But if that wasn't the case, how do you think Obito survived?
2. If Edo Madara was able of having Obito be the sacrifice for the Rinne Tensei and Madara was resurrected, would that mean that Madara's soul in his Edo Tensei form leaves Edo Madara and moves to the actual Madara, or does it mean that there would be an Edo Madara and Madara's real body?
3. Also, what I don't get is, even if an Edo clone is immortal, couldn't Edo Madara just do self-sacrifice to resurrect his actual body and not need Obito as the sacrifice?
4. If Black Zetsu was incapacitated by Choujouro's sword and White Zetsu is dead, how is there, how were both in forming Obito's head (the part when Obito said "Sensei")?
5. Similarly, how was it before the above happened that Obito's face shifted from having the Obito and Spiral Zetsu form to the Obito and Black Zetsu form?
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As shown from last chapter, when Obito was yelling about his body, it appears that Black Zetsu was beginning to emerge.
6. Did Obito become the Juubi jinchuuriki because the Juubi broke out of the torii gate and then bonded with Obito (probably off panel for a moment because we don't see Obito jumping towards the Juubi and offering his body to it)?
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That weird thing after the panel of the Juubi arms grabbing Naruto and Sasuke might be the Juubi merging with Oibto.
7. From ch. 467.
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If the Juubi was such strong chakra that the Rikudou Sennin had to use the last of his strength to use Banbutsu Souzou to divide the Juubi into the Bijuu and used his Chibaku Tensei to seal the Juubi into the moon, even for the Sage, that would require using chakra on a level that probably kill even an EMS/Mokuton/Rinnegan-wielding Madara from using. Even with these 3 mighty jutsu, Madara still couldn't hold a candle against the Sage.
I think the Sage in part sealed the Juubi away because even his body couldn't handle that much chakra.
I think that the Sage having the Juubi in his body would eventually be too much even for him to carry. If that's the case, even if all 9 Bijuu were completely sealed into the Gedo Mazou, why would Obito and Madara think that they could control it?