[Theory] The Sage Of the Six Path's third lost son

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this is my first real post in this forum so be nice :p here goes...

The Sage had a third son, the ancestor of the uzumaki clan. who was hidden or lost to history and who inherited the sage's red hair (if he had one) and wish for piece among everyone. while the senju and uchiha ancestors would continuously fight among themselves (as kids), the uzumaki ancesstor would try to make them work together in peace. it might also be possible that this is the origin of the "three man team" system of shinobi.

this is also one way to explain how the sage knew that a future person would bring peace to the tailed beasts. it wasn't really a prediction like he knew the future or something. he might have just said "one day a person of the uzumaki would come, and if he manages to make peace with all the tailed beasts, he will make the entire world in peace." or something like that, and naruto became that person.

i don't think the senju ancestor was really all into making the world a better place. he did fight the uchiha and never tried to make peace with him, deeming that it's better for the world to be rid of the uchiha. and his heritage followed: hashirama killed madara, tobirama pushed the uchiha, the third (while protesting) allowed eventually for the massacare of the uchiha, kakashi came to the conclusion that he need to kill sasuke to end his revenge, kakashi also did the same with obito. wherever you go a senju eventually said that the only option is to kill the uchiha. naruto is the only one who still try to help sasuke, karin forgave sasuke. nagato eventually revived everyone and in the end really tried to make peace.

it appears to me that the only people who at the end don't try to kill someone to make the world a better place is the uzumaki, and that is exactly what the sage wished for. it's like what they say that nuclear bombs will not bring protection and peace, it will only bring more nuclear bombs.
 

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honestly anything is possible. there's a lot of hidden shit right now. were just going to have to wait and see.
 

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Not likely, but He could have had brothers and sisters the SO6P that is and that their would explain The Uchiha,Senju,Uzumaki connection sines they are distant relatives the Uzumaki to both Senju and Uchiha. But keep writhing you may find a subject that we can agree on and find something we might have overlook.
 

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What part of ''Uzumaki are part of Senju'' don't you get?
 

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What part of ''Uzumaki are part of Senju'' don't you get?

you've only red the mis tranlated manga huh? its meant to say "there of the same lineage."
 

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i really don't think so...the sage was probably an uzumaki...i.e he belonged to the uzumaki clan...after he sealed the juubi in him...his sons were born and they inherited the juubi's traits..not the sage...he probably taught the sealing techniques to his own clan so...well thats just my theory
 

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If the sage had a third son why has he never been mention? This theory is poor.And until proven otherwise the sage wasn't an Uzumaki.
 

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What part of ''Uzumaki are part of Senju'' don't you get?

we have detalied explenation of how the shinobi world was created as well as the ancestor of the two most importent clans. but all we know about the origin of the uzumaki is "distant relatives of the senju". unless there will be a chapter with more explenations about their origins my theory is a possibility.
 

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we have detalied explenation of how the shinobi world was created as well as the ancestor of the two most importent clans. but all we know about the origin of the uzumaki is "distant relatives of the senju". unless there will be a chapter with more explenations about their origins my theory is a possibility.


Sasuke getting the rinnegan is a possibility.Sakura being from a powerful clan is a possibility.Konohamaru surpassing Naruto is a possibility.But just like all those possibilities, without any information giving any credence to the Uzumakis being from a third son of the Sage of The Six paths, your theory is a failure.Especially, seeing as it was previously stated in the MANGA that the Sage split his powers among his TWO sons.The key word being two.
 

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No,just no. Uzumaki is just an ordinary clan with strong vitality and sealing jutsus,there is nothing special about them,they arent bastards of Rikkudo Sennin.
 

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Sasuke getting the rinnegan is a possibility.Sakura being from a powerful clan is a possibility.Konohamaru surpassing Naruto is a possibility.But just like all those possibilities, without any information giving any credence to the Uzumakis being from a third son of the Sage of The Six paths, your theory is a failure.Especially, seeing as it was previously stated in the MANGA that the Sage split his powers among his TWO sons.The key word being two.

failure is kind of a harsh term. my theory hasn't failed yet. i'm ok with that my theory is weak but it's not a failure.

and the manga told us that tobi is madara uchiha, that itachi murdered his clan because he chose to do it. this is not the first time the manga misleads us or lies to us and we shouldn't expect it to stop now.

and the entire idea of theory is to come up with ideas when you don't have enough information. if we had the information we wouldn't need a theory.
 

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failure is kind of a harsh term. my theory hasn't failed yet. i'm ok with that my theory is weak but it's not a failure.

and the manga told us that tobi is madara uchiha, that itachi murdered his clan because he chose to do it. this is not the first time the manga misleads us or lies to us and we shouldn't expect it to stop now.
and the entire idea of theory is to come up with ideas when you don't have enough information. if we had the information we wouldn't need a theory.

He is right about this, only some parts about is not entirely true, because the part about madara and itachi are told/informed
And the manga didn't state that obito was madara, it was the idea created because we couldn't tell what face was behind the mask, the ideas and the knowledge
 

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If the sage had a 3 son then the uzumaki clan would been distant relatives to both senju/uchiha and if the sage was a uzumaki in the first place the uzumaki clan would have both powers of senju/uchiha which they dont
 

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i really don't think so...the sage was probably an uzumaki...i.e he belonged to the uzumaki clan...after he sealed the juubi in him...his sons were born and they inherited the juubi's traits..not the sage...he probably taught the sealing techniques to his own clan so...well thats just my theory

Excellent, I agree
 

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this is my first real post in this forum so be nice :p here goes...

The Sage had a third son, the ancestor of the uzumaki clan. who was hidden or lost to history and who inherited the sage's red hair (if he had one) and wish for piece among everyone. while the senju and uchiha ancestors would continuously fight among themselves (as kids), the uzumaki ancesstor would try to make them work together in peace. it might also be possible that this is the origin of the "three man team" system of shinobi.

this is also one way to explain how the sage knew that a future person would bring peace to the tailed beasts. it wasn't really a prediction like he knew the future or something. he might have just said "one day a person of the uzumaki would come, and if he manages to make peace with all the tailed beasts, he will make the entire world in peace." or something like that, and naruto became that person.

i don't think the senju ancestor was really all into making the world a better place. he did fight the uchiha and never tried to make peace with him, deeming that it's better for the world to be rid of the uchiha. and his heritage followed: hashirama killed madara, tobirama pushed the uchiha, the third (while protesting) allowed eventually for the massacare of the uchiha, kakashi came to the conclusion that he need to kill sasuke to end his revenge, kakashi also did the same with obito. wherever you go a senju eventually said that the only option is to kill the uchiha. naruto is the only one who still try to help sasuke, karin forgave sasuke. nagato eventually revived everyone and in the end really tried to make peace.

it appears to me that the only people who at the end don't try to kill someone to make the world a better place is the uzumaki, and that is exactly what the sage wished for. it's like what they say that nuclear bombs will not bring protection and peace, it will only bring more nuclear bombs.

Pretty good effort, works quite nicely for a theory. Now I ask... if God was Divided in Yin Yang... where did the third son come from?
 

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I think the theory of having a third son is damn Right possible,I mean the first son has his eyes,the second his body but none his heart or will(or mind),Maybe the third son couldn't have been known because he wasn't as string as the other two or fought with them either.let's not forget that we also didn't know about izuna until madara mentioned him,he wasn't string like his brother so he wasn't known.but still it can be that the uzumaki were descendants of the sage's brother or sis who knows
 

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I seriously doubt there's a "third child", there are only two: The Elder and Younger Sons who represent the Yin and Yang of the Jūbi, the Rikūdo Sennin himself is Uzumaki.
 

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The thing that for me give the most support for this theory is that the senju also kill in order to bring peace. in the end the senju will try to kill whoever threatens their clan/village.

i do not know a lot about yin yang or it's related culture/religion but from what i understand yin and yang are endlessly fighting each trying to overcome the other but in the end the fighting never stops. yin and yang just keep fighting forever. if the senju really wanted to bring peace using love why do they fight the uchiha? isn't that using power to achive peace?

as i said, the main thing in this theory is that the senju are not the actual chosen people of the Sage. they use power to destroy any threat just like the uchiha.
 
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