Obito = The Sage's Older Son, Naruto = The Sage's Younger Son

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Senju - Uzumaki = relatives, what are you talking about? LOL

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Woop, it seems I've made a mistake. Naruto = A relative of the senju.

And it still doesn't contradict my theory in anyway, so I'm good. Sorry for misunderstandment.

 

[first sage hokage]

who TF SAID obito was child of prophecy?!?:hyper:

He's not going to toss his character aside. What I'm basically saying is that Naruto and Obito are both children of prophecy.

Sasuke doesn't have to be a child of prophecy for him to be a great character that can fight Naruto later on.

 

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The Mokuton is the body of the Juubi:

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The Sharingan is the eye of the Juubi:

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The Rinnegan is the Juubi's Eye (Sharingan) + Body (Mokuton) combined:

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The Uzumaki Heritage (Life Force + Sealing Jutsu) is Rikudou Sennin's original bloodline prior to becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki:

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Rikudou Sennin divided himself into Yin and Yang:

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The Juubi's Yin became the Uchiha:

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The Juubi's Yang became the Senju:

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The Senju and Uchiha then are the body and the eye of the Juubi

Therefore the equation is:

Uzumaki (Rikudou Sennin) + Juubi = Senju (Mokuton/Yang) and Uchiha (Sharingan/Yin)

Made a big mistake.

Sorry, I thought Naruto WAS a senju, but he's just a relative. My fault. Thanks for clarifying that.xd

 

[saw2097]

Its an interesting theory and would be quite the twist.

 

[Aggregator]

who TF SAID obito was child of prophecy?!?:hyper:

Technically, Madara. Read my theory.

 

[iNotorious]

The Mokuton is the body of the Juubi:

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The Sharingan is the eye of the Juubi:

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The Rinnegan is the Juubi's Eye (Sharingan) + Body (Mokuton) combined:

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The Uzumaki Heritage (Life Force + Sealing Jutsu) is Rikudou Sennin's original bloodline prior to becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki:

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Rikudou Sennin divided himself into Yin and Yang:

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The Juubi's Yin became the Uchiha:

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The Juubi's Yang became the Senju:

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The Senju and Uchiha then are the body and the eye of the Juubi

Therefore the equation is:

Uzumaki (Rikudou Sennin) + Juubi = Senju (Mokuton/Yang) and Uchiha (Sharingan/Yin)

Nice theory right there !

Woop, it seems I've made a mistake. Naruto = A relative of the senju.

And it still doesn't contradict my theory in anyway, so I'm good. Sorry for misunderstandment.

No problem and i hope naruto gets a power up because things getting bad for the alliance. Obito being the juubi's jinchuuriki is BAD for them and good for obito and his evil plans.

 

[Made in Heaven]

This theory was great and your signature is amazing =D

 

[first sage hokage]

noooo no one deemed him that lol in manga ONLY naruto minato and nagato lol u jus tryna make it make sense soooo u making up sh*t lol lets stick to the facts, your lying about small details to glue your theory together lolO_O

Technically, Madara. Read my theory.

 

[saw2097]

noooo no one deemed him that lol in manga ONLY naruto minato and nagato lol u jus tryna make it make sense soooo u making up sh*t lol lets stick to the facts, your lying about small details to glue your theory together lolO_O

Madara referred to him as the savior in the Obito flashbacks.

 

[Versatile jutsu]

Exactly, for Naruto has one thing that the Younger Son lacks: friendship with the Bijuus like Rikudou and Naruto have.

no. i mean naruto not have love way like younger brothers.

 

[first sage hokage]

okay no here is why, ying and yang is chakra if that was true there would be no tailed beast to to remake the 10 tails, SO6P WAS jinncuuriki but nowhere did it say he had type of seal that leak 10 tail chakra into his own chakra system PLUS if that was the case there would be no need to even make the tailed beast (spilting up tailed beast chakra ying/yang in ALL tailed beast)

Nice theory right there !




No problem and i hope naruto gets a power up because things getting bad for the alliance. Obito being the juubi's jinchuuriki is BAD for them and good for obito and his evil plans.

yea in an evil way by reviving madara this new chap jus explained "one day you'll repay me" he was always meant for that lol in madara's eyes so he words to obito always was meant for this that moment

Madara referred to him as the savior in the Obito flashbacks.

 

[Trollasaur]

Obito shits on Naruto though

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

okay no here is why, ying and yang is chakra if that was true there would be no tailed beast to to remake the 10 tails, SO6P WAS jinncuuriki but nowhere did it say he had type of seal that leak 10 tail chakra into his own chakra system PLUS if that was the case there would be no need to even make the tailed beast (spilting up tailed beast chakra ying/yang in ALL tailed beast)

Not really since the Yin/Eye of the Jūbi is the Sharingan while the body/Yang of the Jūbi is Mokuton, the Bijūs are the chakra of the Jūbi.

 

[Aggregator]

noooo no one deemed him that lol in manga ONLY naruto minato and nagato lol u jus tryna make it make sense soooo u making up sh*t lol lets stick to the facts, your lying about small details to glue your theory together lolO_O

Why are you being so rude, bro?

It's just a theory, no need to get in arguments here. But it's fact that Madara called Obito the savior of this world.

 

[first sage hokage]

ying and yang is chakra? there is no three parts jus one ying and yang making chakra, like mental and physical energy to use chakra, when minato took yang why do you think he also took have of his chakra lol CAUSE YING AND YANG IS CHAKRA nine tails is chakra SO he shrunk HALF the size.

Not really since the Yin/Eye of the Jūbi is the Sharingan while the body/Yang of the Jūbi is Mokuton, the Bijūs are the chakra of the Jūbi.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

ying and yang is chakra? there is no three parts jus one ying and yang making chakra, like mental and physical energy to use chakra, when minato took yang why do you think he also took have of his chakra lol CAUSE YING AND YANG IS CHAKRA nine tails is chakra SO he shrunk HALF the size.

Yin has a little bit of Yang and Yang has a little bit of Yin, so the body of the Juubi is predominantly Yang with a little bit of Yin, the Eye of the Juubi is predominantly Yin with a little bit of Yang while the chakra of the Juubi itself is yin and yang

One God (Juubi) was divided into Yin(Uchiha) and Yang (Senju)

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Madara in black symbolizing yin Hashirama in white symbolizing yang

 

[first sage hokage]

im jus tryna debate lol no anger here man

Why are you being so rude, bro?

It's just a theory, no need to get in arguments here. But it's fact that Madara called Obito the savior of this world.

why couldnt the god be SO6P dividing being two sons, yin being heart of body of SO6P AND YANG being sharingan?

Yin has a little bit of Yang and Yang has a little bit of Yin, so the body of the Juubi is predominantly Yang with a little bit of Yin, the Eye of the Juubi is predominantly Yin with a little bit of Yang while the chakra of the Juubi itself is yin and yang

One God (Juubi) was divided into Yin(Uchiha) and Yang (Senju)

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Madara in black symbolizing yin Hashirama in white symbolizing yang

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

why couldnt the god be SO6P dividing being two sons, yin being heart of body of SO6P AND YANG being sharingan?

The powers of the Rikūdo Sennin came from the Juubi when he became its Jinchuuriki, that is why both the Sharingan and Mokuton have the unique ability to suppress Bijūs, because all of them came from the same source: Jūbi

 

[Transcendence]

Nice theory, but I disagree. I have my own theory which completely disproves the Elder-Younger Son parallel between Naruto and Sasuke; this applies to Obito as well.

- The Younger Son was the progenitor of the Senju
- The Older Son was the progenitor of the Uchiha
- Rikudou their "father"

Seems straight forward right? Well it's more complicated. It's clear Kishimoto isn't a geneticist, but it is biologically impossible to have such an even split between the son regarding their prominent features (The Eyes and the Body evenly distributed between each). That inherently rules out the possibility of it being a natural birth process. Rikudou was said to be able to create anything out of nothing with COAT. He did it with the Juubi, BUT ON HIS DEATHBED. With such an even split of Yin to Yang (Elder to Younger) he had to use Creation of All Things. But there's another thing we know; He sealed the Juubi in the moon in his old age, meaning he still had the Juubi inside him when he created his sons. His main chakra source was the Juubi, so using COAT had to have an effect (Juubi's chakra) on the creation of his sons.

- We've seen that the Juubi can use Mokuton techniques and has a hard body (Senju)
- We know it has an eye reminiscent of the Sharingan because of the Tomoes (Uchiha)

What do we know about Madara and Hashirama? Madara had the highest form of Sharingan (Peak of Elder Son) and Hashirama had Mokuton (Peak of Younger son), both things that correspond to the persona of the Juubi itself. The Elder Younger parallel was done with Madara and Hashirama; Hashirama spreading peace through love by equaling nations power by spreading the Bijuu's whereas Madara wants to subjugate the world in a Genjutsu (Control is synonymous with Power), both paralleling the Sons.

Naruto IS NOT A SENJU. It is explicitly stated in the manga that the Uzumaki's are relatives to the Senju. This would imply that they have a common link down the road from the original bloodlines. It can't be the Younger Son because that would make them descendants of the Senju, which as we know from Manga fact, they are not. The only plausible link left is Rikudou. This leads to another possibility: The Uzumaki are then related to the Uchiha. Our first clue was when we saw the Elder Son's eye; It is an exact replica of the Uzumaki swirl (Which was the symbol of their country); This can't be coincidence. Another subtle hint was when Sasuke; An Uchiha, was needed to help unseal AN UZUMAKI SEALING TECHNIQUE AT THE NAKA SHRINE (Shiki Fujin where they revived the 4 Hokages). But again, this is a mere possibility. If anything, this adds to the Sage=Uzumaki theory and we already know from the Bijuu's that Naruto parallels Rikudou, and we know Naruto is an Uzumaki, so to solidify the parallel, he will also probably be Uzumaki.

Last but not least; the only two "Saviors" or Prophecy children, stated in the manga, are Nagato and Naruto; Both Uzumaki's. We know that there were two possibilities: Being a Harbinger of Peace or Harbinger of Destruction. Nagato was the destruction, Naruto the Harbinger of Peace. The last savior not seen in the manga? Rikudou. See an Uzumaki trio? Quite possibly since two of the three stated saviors are Uzumaki. Two of these people have/had the Rinnegan, so Naruto may get it to fulfill the prophecy (Since it is stated in a time of great peril; The war, the eyes will be bestowed on a chosen one: Naruto/Nagato to be either a Harbinger of Destruction or Harbinger of Peace).

Great thread either way

 

[first sage hokage]

so SO6P had tailed beast sperm.........it would make more sense if SO6P was woman lol PLUS naruto born with ninetails was in same body as nine tails and didnt get anything abilities

The powers of the Rikūdo Sennin came from the Juubi when he became its Jinchuuriki, that is why both the Sharingan and Mokuton have the unique ability to suppress Bijūs, because all of them came from the same source: Jūbi