[VS] Hashirama & Tobirama vs Naruto & Minato

[Sacrosanct]

Looking for different perspectives here.

Knowledge: Manga
Distance: 150 Meters
Location: Valley of the End
Restrictions: None.

Who do you think would win?

 

[Blunt]

1-2 feat Tobirama / Hashirama vs BM Naruto / Minato.

Minato and Naruto win, with high difficulty. Tobirama is not in any of their leagues in this match up.

 

[Gakido]

Naruto & Minato win

 

[Sacrosanct]

1-2 feat Tobirama / Hashirama vs BM Naruto / Minato.

Minato and Naruto win, with high difficulty. Tobirama is not in any of their leagues in this match up.

What is Naruto's use against Sage Mode Hashirama, who had multiple biju under his control at once, considering that Naruto only possesses half of Kurama's chakra? Either Flower Tree World puts him down due to his lack of knowledge on the jutsu or he's restrained the whole fight.

I don't see what Minato would be able to do against Hashirama and Tobirama.

 

[Edinburgh]

Tobirama has this on his own. Hashirama is not needed.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

What is Naruto's use against Sage Mode Hashirama, who had multiple biju under his control at once, considering that Naruto only possesses half of Kurama's chakra? Either Flower Tree World puts him down due to his lack of knowledge on the jutsu or he's restrained the whole fight.

I don't see what Minato would be able to do against Hashirama and Tobirama.

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is close to Shinsuusenju's size.

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, which can be accomplished with the help of a Kage Bunshin, is bigger than Shinsuusenju. Look at the after match near the bottom of the right panel. The little black dot is the the Juubi and its standing in the crater of Ultimate Bijudama [

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OT: Naruto & Minato win

 

[Nous]

I think the Senju Brothesr would win.​

 

[Fresco]

The Senju Brothers should take this. Hashirama is an especially good fighter against Bijuu given his arsenal is built around restraining and fighting them. Also, I believe the power levels between Minato and Tobirama are relative; Minato having a slight, slight advantage in that aspect.

 

[Sacrosanct]

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is close to Shinsuusenju's size.

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, which can be accomplished with the help of a Kage Bunshin, is bigger than Shinsuusenju. Look at the after match near the bottom of the right panel. The little black dot is the the Juubi and its standing in the crater of Ultimate Bijudama [

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OT: Naruto & Minato win

The thing is, Shinsuusenju survived a barrage of Tailed Beast Bombs coming from Kurama with all of his chakra when those Tailed Beast Bombs were all stabbed with Madara's Perfect Susanoo swords which easily slice mountains, and then picked up Kurama and put him to sleep (but not after ripping Perfect Susanoo off, a feat that just hasn't been repeated). I don't see how BM Naruto, utilizing half of Kurama's chakra and not using Perfect Susanoo swords to assist his Tailed Beast Bombs, would be able to do much against Shinsuusenju.

Sage Mode Hashirama's Flower Tree World would cover the whole battlefield and without knowledge on it Naruto gets knocked out, possibly even Minato as well. If not, Minato's not taking Hashirama and Tobirama.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

The thing is, Shinsuusenju survived a barrage of Tailed Beast Bombs coming from Kurama with all of his chakra when those Tailed Beast Bombs were all stabbed with Madara's Perfect Susanoo swords which easily slice mountains, and then picked up Kurama and put him to sleep (but not after ripping Perfect Susanoo off, a feat that just hasn't been repeated). I don't see how BM Naruto, utilizing half of Kurama's chakra and not using Perfect Susanoo swords to assist his Tailed Beast Bombs, would be able to do much against Shinsuusenju.

Sage Mode Hashirama's Flower Tree World would cover the whole battlefield and without knowledge on it Naruto gets knocked out, possibly even Minato as well. If not, Minato's not taking Hashirama and Tobirama.

Note that they never truely detonate on Shinsuusenju [

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]. If Flash Bijudama detonates on Shinsuusenju then its hittingthe entire Jutsu, especially the main infastructure which is all Naruto needs to hit.

Naruto can create shockwaves similar to his 4TK form to keep Mokuton: Kajukai Kōrin at bay

 

[Transcendence]

Hashirama solo's. He doesn't even need SM to suppress Naruto and then use FTW to knock out Minato, effectively ending the battle.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Note that they never truely detonate on Shinsuusenju [

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]. If Flash Bijudama detonates on Shinsuusenju then its hittingthe entire Jutsu, especially the main infastructure which is all Naruto needs to hit.

Naruto can create shockwaves similar to his 4TK form to keep Mokuton: Kajukai Kōrin at bay

We have no idea what effect BM Naruto's Tailed Beast Bombs whilst utilizing half of Kurama's chakra would have on Shinsuusenju seeing as the Tailed Beast Bombs Shinsuusenju went up against were not only coming from Kurama who had all of its' chakra, but were infused with Perfect Susanoo swords which easily sliced mountains. If it were that easy to take down Shinsuusenju (to the extent that BM Naruto could take it down with half of Kurama's chakra at his disposal), then let me offer you this question: why didn't Madara simply aim a few Tailed Beast Bombs there? All that we have to assume is that it would fail (seeing Madara's lack of intimidation when facing Shinsuusenju, it can be assumed he has faced it before and knows more about it than we do as the readers), and that Madara chose the seemingly more effective option yet still couldn't take it down.

Without knowledge on what it does, he'll have no idea what to do against it. Although he may be able to do that, he wouldn't know to do it as he isn't familiar with the jutsu. It's stated to be created instantaneously (ignore the hyperbole), and the pollen knocked out the Kage fairly quickly.

 

[Penguin]

I absolutely hate how people say Tobirama is worthless. He is definatly in their league. Team Senju win btw. Flower Tree World. Then Naruto dies by Hiraishingiri.

 

[TheSages456]

hashirama solos.

mokuryu makes narutos kurama avatar falter.
hashirama puts them to sleep with the flower world.
beheading with sword GG.

 

[Bronze]

naruto and minato wins this. naruto solos hashirama while minato solos tobirama.

 

[Sacrosanct]

I absolutely hate how people say Tobirama is worthless. He is definatly in their league. Team Senju win btw. Flower Tree World. Then Naruto dies by Hiraishingiri.

Tobirama is in Minato's league in my opinion and slightly better, but he's not in Naruto's league or Hashirama's (they're just... different, although Hashirama is still much more powerful). Tobirama's not killing Naruto, unless he's forced to fight without using Kurama's chakra (which is a possibility).

naruto and minato wins this. naruto solos hashirama while minato solos tobirama.

I understand you saying Minato can beat Tobirama seeing as Tobirama has displayed no feats so far, but do you seriously think Naruto can take on Hashirama, when he only has half of Kurama's chakra at his disposal? Hashirama made Kurama (with all its chakra) who was clad in Perfect Susanoo go to sleep. Flower Tree World potentially solos the two considering that if Sage Mode Hashirama uses it, it will cover the battlefield and more, which means they either flee (forfeit) or get knocked out.

 

[Bronze]

I understand you saying Minato can beat Tobirama seeing as Tobirama has displayed no feats so far, but do you seriously think Naruto can take on Hashirama, when he only has half of Kurama's chakra at his disposal? Hashirama made Kurama (with all its chakra) who was clad in Perfect Susanoo go to sleep. Flower Tree World potentially solos the two considering that if Sage Mode Hashirama uses it, it will cover the battlefield and more, which means they either flee (forfeit) or get knocked out.

100% kyuubi is weaker than naruto. jinch are stronger than their bijuu when they control their power. every bijuu is a weakness to a mokuton user. all of hashirama's techs are destroyed by naruto destructive jutsusu. FTW is through the shock wave of kyuubi.

naruto and hashirama are about equal in ninjutsu.

naruto is superior in taijutsu, since he is way faster than hashirama, he physically stronger than hashirama, he is more durable with kyuubi chakra.

genjutsu dont work on naruto since kyuubi breaks it.

Naruto's SM is also superior.

so yes naruto wins.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Tobirama is in Minato's league in my opinion and slightly better, but he's not in Naruto's league or Hashirama's (they're just... different, although Hashirama is still much more powerful). Tobirama's not killing Naruto, unless he's forced to fight without using Kurama's chakra (which is a possibility).



I understand you saying Minato can beat Tobirama seeing as Tobirama has displayed no feats so far, but do you seriously think Naruto can take on Hashirama, when he only has half of Kurama's chakra at his disposal? Hashirama made Kurama (with all its chakra) who was clad in Perfect Susanoo go to sleep. Flower Tree World potentially solos the two considering that if Sage Mode Hashirama uses it, it will cover the battlefield and more, which means they either flee (forfeit) or get knocked out.

Naruto can solo Hashirama. I post my rebuttal later today or tommorow. Im strapped for time at the moment.

 

[Zexion~]

Hashirama solos .. A biju going up against the king of the biju's is a bad idea ... and Minato loses easily ..

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Tobirama has this on his own. Hashirama is not needed.

so he gets the dogshit beat out of him by two fake pseudo jinchurikis with 1% kyuubi but the two real things with 50% each is no problem?

100% kyuubi is weaker than naruto. jinch are stronger than their bijuu when they control their power.

100% kyuubi kills naruto. the belief that a bijuu is stronger with a jin comes from deidaras statement when he still believed bijuus were mindless animals. we know now they arent

Sage Mode Hashirama's Flower Tree World would cover the whole battlefield and without knowledge on it Naruto gets knocked out,

how does the pollen go through chakra shroud

Tobirama is in Minato's league in my opinion and slightly better,

latest chapter should emphasise the gap nicely. tobirama is constantly amazed by everything minatos doing. tobirama got buttfuked by jounins. minatos been killing jounins in one hit since he was a kid