[Theory] Kishimoto's Inspiration Behind Rikudou Sennin Meeting Naruto Uzumaki

[Thorium]

Another arrow shot in the air with the bulls-eye drawn afterwards, but good work. Loved this theory -- too accurate to be a coincidence.

Looking forward to your next one...perhaps on something that isn't related to SO6P ^.^

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

As usual, i have to disagree with you, because your theory is, once again, based on nothing.

 

[itachi kills]

nothing to say you rock

 

[Filo]

I liked the first few pictures lol so you are saying that the sage never actually died because of attaining nirvana. Hmm this is a better explanation of how his chakra could survive

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Love it!

Well done as always!

Thanks Melanee

 

[CrimsonFire]

When it comes to the Rikudou Sennin theories you are a pro Derp. Of course I ready to see the flash back Rikudou Sennin to see what his character is like and see Rikudou Sennin actual feats xd .

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Another arrow shot in the air with the bulls-eye drawn afterwards, but good work. Loved this theory -- too accurate to be a coincidence.

Looking forward to your next one...perhaps on something that isn't related to SO6P ^.^

there is no mystery left in the manga except for SO6P.

 

[CrimsonFire]

there is no mystery left in the manga except for SO6P.

Yeah it's pretty sad when you think about it U_U

 

[Gyakusetsu]

But doesn't this go against the Sage Toad's prophecy? The prophecy of Maitreya is that he will come when the Dharma is unknown. The Sage Toad prophecy is that Jiraiya's disciple would either save or condemn the world. I take that "condemn the world" very seriously. The Sage Toad didn't mean that in an indirect way.

Also the incorporation of Shintoism and Buddhism did not begin with Ryobu Shinto. Both Shingon and Tendai had already begun this process. Also, from another thread where you posited a different theory on Kirin Rei's post, Sages and Sennin are not Bodhisattva (that's 100% Kishi combination) you're really starting to drive me nuts with some of the near misses.

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[Lightning Release]

I'll never understand how you come up with these threads.. I like it.. Very well done.

 

[blue666666]

great work well thought outhttp://narutobase.net/forums/images/smilies/win.gif

 

[Pr0teu5]

I still have at least one issue with this thread in that the sage of the six paths and the stories of his two sons always seemed to be a representation of then Amida raigo triad with the sage being Amida Buddha, the senju ancestor being the thousand armed bodhisattva of mercy kannon, and the Uchiha clan ancestor being the bodhisattva of wisdom.

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The Amida Sanzon Triad, Amida Raigō, and Amida Sanzon Raigō are common themes in Japanese Buddhist statuary and painting, especially among Japan's Pure Land (Jōdo 浄土) sects. In triad artwork, Amida Buddha sits in the center and is surrounded by two main attendants (kyōji 脇侍) -- Seishi Bosatsu (representing wisdom) is generally on the right and Kannon Bosatsu (representing compassion) on the left. As Amida faith spread in the late Heian and early Kamakura periods, so too did artwork of Amida descending from heaven to lead the faithful back to his Pure Land of Ultimate Bliss (Jp. = 極楽 Gokuraku; also called Jōdo 浄土). In paintings and scrolls, this is generally depicted by showing Amida riding atop a cloud, often accompanied by Seishi and Kannon. In addition, artwork often depicts Amida surrounded by 25 Bodhisattva (including Seishi and Kannon) descending from heaven to welcome and guide departed souls back to paradise. The term Raigō 来迎 is translated as "coming in welcome."

as compared to this page.

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In this panel Hashirama's summons the bodhisattva of mercy Kannon (whose Chinese name is Guanyin) directly indicating this representation even further.

 

[NagazuDead]

Man, You are taking this manga way to serious, Man it's only a "manga" or a "book", I don't think Masashi paid so much attention to these buddist things and instead getting idea through using brain + maybe he is a Buddism. But you are taking this too serious. It's like you are writing a new story, You thinks back and gets ideas from what you have seen and your readors thinks that you have been thinking so hard and so long.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Man, You are taking this manga way to serious, Man it's only a "manga" or a "book", I don't think Masashi paid so much attention to these buddist things and instead getting idea through using brain + maybe he is a Buddism. But you are taking this too serious. It's like you are writing a new story, You thinks back and gets ideas from what you have seen and your readors thinks that you have been thinking so hard and so long.

Kishimoto takes his inspiration from Eastern religion and mythology

 

[Gyakusetsu]

I still have at least one issue with this thread in that the sage of the six paths and the stories of his two sons always seemed to be a representation of then Amida raigo triad with the sage being Amida Buddha, the senju ancestor being the thousand armed bodhisattva of mercy kannon, and the Uchiha clan ancestor being the bodhisattva of wisdom.


as compared to this page.

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In this panel Hashirama's summons the bodhisattva of mercy Kannon (whose Chinese name is Guanyin) directly indicating this representation even further.

I agree with the logic here. It is very similar to Danichi Buddha and his two guardian attendants of Fudo Myo-O and Aizen Myo-O. I was aware of the similarity for Amitabha Buddha but felt that Fudo Myo-O was more representative of the Elder and that since Shingon and Tendai incorporated Shinto Kami, and Shingon's central Buddha is Danichi that it was more accurate. Regardless, both I feel are accurate inspirations for the Elder and Younger sons. Also, folks should note both sets of guardian attendants represent manifestations, and combined they are Danichi or Amitabha . This does not discount the theory that Derp is putting forth but it would take some effort to connect the two since it would seem that Sasuke and Naruto represent the two guardian attendants.

 

[alexu9696]

In the south of Naruto City:

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Where the famous Naruto whirlpools are located:

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Is a small island called Shikoku Island:

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In this island was born a priest named Kukai:

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Kukai was the founder of Shingon Buddhism, The Urabe Clan which the Uzumaki Clan was based from (

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) practiced Ryobu Shinto also known as Shingon Shinto which is the incorporation of Shintoism with the Shingon sect of Vajra Buddhism:

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When Kukai was nearing his death, he retreated to the mountains:

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And entered an Eternal Samadhi which is a mystical form of mental concentration:

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He did this to avoid death so that he could await and meet his successor, the Maitreya Bodhisattva:

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This I believe is Kishimoto's inspiration for Naruto meeting Rikudou Sennin inside his subconscious like Minato and Kushina did, Naruto is Rikudou's successor and Rikudou most probably stored his chakra essence inside Kurama and the Bijuus so that one day he could meet the person who had united them, his successor Naruto:

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i agree with you.... and yes Rikudou Sennin will meet Naruto.... there is also very possible that Rikudou is the ancestor of the Uzumaki clan....

You don't like obito and you hate his fans, i also fell the same way so we are bros =D

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I agree with the logic here. It is very similar to Danichi Buddha and his two guardian attendants of Fudo Myo-O and Aizen Myo-O. I was aware of the similarity for Amitabha Buddha but felt that Fudo Myo-O was more representative of the Elder and that since Shingon and Tendai incorporated Shinto Kami, and Shingon's central Buddha is Danichi that it was more accurate. Regardless, both I feel are accurate inspirations for the Elder and Younger sons. Also, folks should note both sets of guardian attendants represent manifestations, and combined they are Danichi or Amitabha . This does not discount the theory that Derp is putting forth but it would take some effort to connect the two since it would seem that Sasuke and Naruto represent the two guardian attendants.

The Elder and Younger Sons are the Eye and Body of the Jūbi created with Banbutsu Sōzō, Naruto does not represent the Younger Son for then Naruto would represent the Body of the Jūbi which is absurd, Naruto as an Uzumaki represents Rikūdo, the human Uzumaki Rikūdo who fought the Jūbi before becoming its Jinchūriki, hence the proper dichotomy of human(Naruto) vs divine (Jūbi) is achieved

 

[Gyakusetsu]

The Elder and Younger Sons are the Eye and Body of the Jūbi created with Banbutsu Sōzō, Naruto does not represent the Younger Son for then Naruto would represent the Body of the Jūbi which is absurd, Naruto as an Uzumaki represents Rikūdo, the human Uzumaki Rikūdo who fought the Jūbi before becoming its Jinchūriki, hence the proper dichotomy of human(Naruto) vs divine (Jūbi) is achieved

Setting aside the fact that we are discussing what is/is not possible for a fictional story. You're using another of your theories to support this one but let's explore. By placing Naruto (and only Naruto) as representative of Rikūdo, we would be completely dismissing the fact that Sasuke and Naruto progress together. There is no ascendancy between the two. I agree with your theory that Uzumaki's are related to Rikūdo but don't believe that Rikūdo ever produced Uzumaki descendants.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Setting aside the fact that we are discussing what is/is not possible for a fictional story. You're using another of your theories to support this one but let's explore. By placing Naruto (and only Naruto) as representative of Rikūdo, we would be completely dismissing the fact that Sasuke and Naruto progress together. There is no ascendancy between the two. I agree with your theory that Uzumaki's are related to Rikūdo but don't believe that Rikūdo ever produced Uzumaki descendants.

Their progression does not necessarily imply that their power levels should be in equilibrium but rather the firmness in their resolves, the Younger Son like Hashirama had no friendship with the Bijūs, Rikūdo and Naruto does, also there is the possibility that Sasuke may in fact end up as the Jūbi's Jinchūriki

 

[Gyakusetsu]

Their progression does not necessarily imply that their power levels should be in equilibrium but rather the firmness in their resolves, the Younger Son like Hashirama had no friendship with the Bijūs, Rikūdo and Naruto does, also there is the possibility that Sasuke may in fact end up as the Jūbi's Jinchūriki

I believe that there was intent behind Kishimoto's comments. It is not a matter of Sasuke needing to be powerful enough to be the Jūbi's Jinchūriki and be a strong antagonist but that the pair must progress together. This implies strong connection between the characters, more so than simple rivalry. It would be far easier and more suspenseful to have an antagonist much stronger than the protagonist. As to the nature of the Younger sons relationship to the Bijūs, who knows?