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Shattering Heaven
Naruto vs. Madara theme music
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The Conditions Of Battle:
These are the Scenarios of Battle that I will outline
-CQC
-Mid Range
-Long Range
-Sealing Method
Vocabulary:
RM or Rikudo Mode = KM, KCM, Kyuubi Mode
S-RM or Shin-Rikudo Mode = KM2 or KCM2 (The Humanoid BM)
Shin-Susano'O = Perfect Susano'O
Biju Mode will be referred to as it is normally
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*Sealing is explained in the Sealing Method Section
CQC:
In CQC Naruto has a few notable advantages that would give Naruto the Edge in a Straight hand to hand fight. He even has the ability to make it through Susano'O to continue his assault on Madara.
Neither Combatant has an overwhelming lead in Taijutsu Skill. Madara took on Alliance members with Ease [
There are three main focal points to Naruto CQC hand to hand offence.
If Madara is inside his Susano'O, Naruto is Capable of Breaking through with his
A Sage Kage Bunshin would completely bypass Preta Path with the Shock Wave of its Punch [
Naruto may have to deal with Moku Bunshin while in CQC. These would be dealt with By Sage Kage Bunshin or by S-RM Kage Bunshin. Sage Kage Bunshing can deal with these Bunshin by removing them from The battle with their physcial strength. [
If Naruto chose to start the match off with Kuchiyose, then he can have Fukasaku and Shima use
Madara's last form of close range offence is his Katons. Where Naruto's Cloak already has multiple instances of blocking Katon based attacks [
Mid-Range:
Mid-Range is where Naruto and Madara usually do the most damage and can freely use their strongest Jutsu. If Madara somehow managed to put some distance between himself and Naruto, This is the Range at which they will fight. It is also where Madara will chose to enter Perfect Susano'O or use Mokuton: MokuRyu.
MokuBunshin would be a contiued worry here. Naruto has the options of letting his Kage Bunshin continue to combat them or he can use Bijudama to destroy them all in one go. The MokuBunshin using Susano'O cannot use Preta path as the inate nature of Susano'O is to pour chakra from the Tenketsu whilst Preta is the opposite. If the previous is chosen, Gama Kuchiyose can help keep the MokuBunshin at bay.
Putting Madara in a dead State is accomplish-able in a word. Bijudama. Bijudama has enough chakra to overload Preta path and put Madara's Edo Tensei Body in a "dead" state. If Madara using the Perfect Susano'O then
Please Refer to the post in the Spoiler for an explanation to Edo Tensei's Chakra features and how much preta is able to absorb
In conclusion to this, Madara is incapable of absorbing Bijudama or using Perfect Susano'O & Mokuton at the same time. As Bijudama is beyond Madara's Knead/Release capabilities as well as Perfect Susano'O taking up most of his chakra knead/Release capacity,
Once Madara activates the Perfect Susano'O, Naruto simply has to overpower the structure with one of his own.
The Perfect Susano'O only shown form of offensive nature is the power of its swords. Largely known for being able to slices through mountains, These swords can be blocked with the Biju Modes Tails as they were already capable of
Mokuton, is the other method of attacking Naruto that would be an option. Most of Madara's Mokuton is completely countered by the shockwaves that Naruto can create while using the Kyuubi's Chakra. [
With Intel on the Jutsu, Naruto knows that approaching the Dragon is of consequence. Thus, he will take a diffrenct route of defeating the Jutsu. He may use Bijudama to destroy the Dragon as it was already destoyed by a Bijudama [
Theres also the remote chance of Madara using Tengai Shinsei. The probably of this is low as the Meteors have laready been destroyed by Mountain busting level attacks. Naruto could also tank them based on his durability feats from above, and above all else it puts Madara himself in danger.
Long Range:
This is where Madara is put at the biggest Disadvantage. At this range, Madara has to resort to a fire fight. Which he is sorely outmatched in as all he has to rely on is Susano'O sword Slashes. Which Naruto already has proven he can overpower or block.
Sealing Method:
- Naruto can seal Madara with the following method: After Madara has been caught by
Another option is for Gamabunta to place Madara in his mouth and then undue his summoning.
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Naruto vs. Madara theme music
The Final Episode by Asking Alexandria
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The Conditions Of Battle:
Both are Fresh and fully rested
Intel: Full
Location: Grassy Plain
30 Meters Distance
Intel: Full
Location: Grassy Plain
30 Meters Distance
These are the Scenarios of Battle that I will outline
-CQC
-Mid Range
-Long Range
-Sealing Method
Vocabulary:
RM or Rikudo Mode = KM, KCM, Kyuubi Mode
S-RM or Shin-Rikudo Mode = KM2 or KCM2 (The Humanoid BM)
Shin-Susano'O = Perfect Susano'O
Biju Mode will be referred to as it is normally
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*Sealing is explained in the Sealing Method Section
CQC:
In CQC Naruto has a few notable advantages that would give Naruto the Edge in a Straight hand to hand fight. He even has the ability to make it through Susano'O to continue his assault on Madara.
Neither Combatant has an overwhelming lead in Taijutsu Skill. Madara took on Alliance members with Ease [
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] while Naruto has been trained in formal martial arts and
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. Sharingan would undoubtably give Naruto Headaches, but this is remidied by Kage Bunshin and a Shunshin that escapes even Madara's eyes. There are three main focal points to Naruto CQC hand to hand offence.
- His Chakra Enhanced Punch that Knocked away Bijudamas
- Kage Bunshin Shenanigans
- Kurama's Ability to break Naruto out of Genjutsu
If Madara is inside his Susano'O, Naruto is Capable of Breaking through with his
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. These same punches were done in quick succesion. Naruto needs only to land a single one of these punches to put Madara in a dead state, which can be accomplished by working in tandum with his Kage Bunshin and using his supeior Taijutsu. Chakra Limbs which arn't subject to Sharingan's Pre-Cog can also land blows that can incapacitate Madara,
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. The trickiest part of this is watching for Preta Path. Naruto has two ways to deal with this. - Timing his punch very carefully in a position where Madara isn't using Preta Path (Possibly with Shunshin or in tandum with his Kage Bunshin
- Sage Kage Bunshin
A Sage Kage Bunshin would completely bypass Preta Path with the Shock Wave of its Punch [
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]. Preta Path would also become a hinderance if Madara starts to Absorb Senjutsu Chakra. Naruto may have to deal with Moku Bunshin while in CQC. These would be dealt with By Sage Kage Bunshin or by S-RM Kage Bunshin. Sage Kage Bunshing can deal with these Bunshin by removing them from The battle with their physcial strength. [
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]If Naruto chose to start the match off with Kuchiyose, then he can have Fukasaku and Shima use
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to temporarily stun Madara and affords Naruto an opening to attack. This is not to be confused with Magen: Gama Rinshō that resluts in a Genjutsu. Kawazu naki doesn't require Senjutsu prep. Madara's last form of close range offence is his Katons. Where Naruto's Cloak already has multiple instances of blocking Katon based attacks [
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]Mid-Range:
Mid-Range is where Naruto and Madara usually do the most damage and can freely use their strongest Jutsu. If Madara somehow managed to put some distance between himself and Naruto, This is the Range at which they will fight. It is also where Madara will chose to enter Perfect Susano'O or use Mokuton: MokuRyu.
MokuBunshin would be a contiued worry here. Naruto has the options of letting his Kage Bunshin continue to combat them or he can use Bijudama to destroy them all in one go. The MokuBunshin using Susano'O cannot use Preta path as the inate nature of Susano'O is to pour chakra from the Tenketsu whilst Preta is the opposite. If the previous is chosen, Gama Kuchiyose can help keep the MokuBunshin at bay.
Putting Madara in a dead State is accomplish-able in a word. Bijudama. Bijudama has enough chakra to overload Preta path and put Madara's Edo Tensei Body in a "dead" state. If Madara using the Perfect Susano'O then
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to achieve the same effect. The Ultimate Bijudama can be intiated by Naruto alone with the help of a BM Kage Bunshin helping with the Chakra Kneading.Please Refer to the post in the Spoiler for an explanation to Edo Tensei's Chakra features and how much preta is able to absorb
Edo Tensei Chakra:
When Madara was Freed from the Edo Tensei Covenant he Stated that Edo Tensei's have and Infinte Amount of Chakra. People have Taken this to mean that And Shinobi Resurected With Edo Tensei can Spam Jutsu's and make them much more powerful that they normally would.
This is False, While The Edo Tensei Bodies do have an unlimited amount of Resouces from which to make chakra they cannot Knead or release more chakra than there body could before resurection (or however much their body could in the state it was ressurected in.
I Base this on The Fact that Muu was incapable of Using Jinton after being split.
After Being Split the amount of chakra he could release/Knead was effectivly cut in half.
Further Proof on the fact that only a certain amount of chakra can be kneaded/Released by any certain person is proven by Naruto's Learning of the Rasengan. He had to Train his Chakra Ciculatory System to Knead more chakra and Also be able to release and sustain more chakra (the Second Step of the Training is an excellent example)
So In conclusion, Yes Edo Tensei Bodies have the Resouces to Continously Make Chakra, Yet the ninja Cannot Knead/Release more chakra than when they could in their life.
References:
Preta Path:
Preta Path has the ability to Abosorb Ninjutsu and Render them useless. This is done by taking in the Chakra and spinning the chakra until it is steralized (this is stated in the databook but i couldn't find the page to save my life) The Chakra does not go to the Preta path users chakra reservers but instead literally becomes nothing (for the lack of a better of a better way to put it)
I find that this is done by opening the Tenketsu and allowing the jutsu to flow into the user's Chakra Ciruclatory system (The opposite of Kaiten in a way) The Chakra is then Spun until it becomes sterile.
Now there's Two Factors that dictate how much the user can Absorb and how fast they can absorb it.
1. The Amount of Chakra that the User can Knead/Release
2. The User's Skill in Chakra Control
The Amount of Chakra that the User Can Knead/Release Dictates the amount of Chakra that The user of Preta Path can allow into their Chakra System at one time. Chakra being absorbed must be spun and sterilized to allow more to enter the system, This is where the User's Skill in Chakra Controll comes into play. The user's Chakra Control Dicates the Speed at which they can spin the absorbed chakra and therfore means that the better chakra control they have the faster they sterilize the absorbed chakra. The Use of the Barrier when using Preta Path means that the user has either worse Chakra control or cannot Knead/Release as much Chakra as one that does not have to use the barrier. Meaning that the path that used preta in the six paths of Pain cannot absorb as much chakra as Madara or Nagato.
References:
When Madara was Freed from the Edo Tensei Covenant he Stated that Edo Tensei's have and Infinte Amount of Chakra. People have Taken this to mean that And Shinobi Resurected With Edo Tensei can Spam Jutsu's and make them much more powerful that they normally would.
This is False, While The Edo Tensei Bodies do have an unlimited amount of Resouces from which to make chakra they cannot Knead or release more chakra than there body could before resurection (or however much their body could in the state it was ressurected in.
I Base this on The Fact that Muu was incapable of Using Jinton after being split.
After Being Split the amount of chakra he could release/Knead was effectivly cut in half.
Further Proof on the fact that only a certain amount of chakra can be kneaded/Released by any certain person is proven by Naruto's Learning of the Rasengan. He had to Train his Chakra Ciculatory System to Knead more chakra and Also be able to release and sustain more chakra (the Second Step of the Training is an excellent example)
So In conclusion, Yes Edo Tensei Bodies have the Resouces to Continously Make Chakra, Yet the ninja Cannot Knead/Release more chakra than when they could in their life.
References:
Madara's Statement on Edo Tensei:
Muu's Edo Body Failing to use Jinton:
Naruto's Rasengan Training:
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Muu's Edo Body Failing to use Jinton:
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Naruto's Rasengan Training:
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Preta Path:
Preta Path has the ability to Abosorb Ninjutsu and Render them useless. This is done by taking in the Chakra and spinning the chakra until it is steralized (this is stated in the databook but i couldn't find the page to save my life) The Chakra does not go to the Preta path users chakra reservers but instead literally becomes nothing (for the lack of a better of a better way to put it)
I find that this is done by opening the Tenketsu and allowing the jutsu to flow into the user's Chakra Ciruclatory system (The opposite of Kaiten in a way) The Chakra is then Spun until it becomes sterile.
Now there's Two Factors that dictate how much the user can Absorb and how fast they can absorb it.
1. The Amount of Chakra that the User can Knead/Release
2. The User's Skill in Chakra Control
The Amount of Chakra that the User Can Knead/Release Dictates the amount of Chakra that The user of Preta Path can allow into their Chakra System at one time. Chakra being absorbed must be spun and sterilized to allow more to enter the system, This is where the User's Skill in Chakra Controll comes into play. The user's Chakra Control Dicates the Speed at which they can spin the absorbed chakra and therfore means that the better chakra control they have the faster they sterilize the absorbed chakra. The Use of the Barrier when using Preta Path means that the user has either worse Chakra control or cannot Knead/Release as much Chakra as one that does not have to use the barrier. Meaning that the path that used preta in the six paths of Pain cannot absorb as much chakra as Madara or Nagato.
References:
Pain's Preta Path:
Nagato using Preta Path:
Madara Using Preta Path:
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Madara Using Preta Path:
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In conclusion to this, Madara is incapable of absorbing Bijudama or using Perfect Susano'O & Mokuton at the same time. As Bijudama is beyond Madara's Knead/Release capabilities as well as Perfect Susano'O taking up most of his chakra knead/Release capacity,
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. Nor has Madara ever used any other Jutsu at the same time as Perfect Susano'O.Once Madara activates the Perfect Susano'O, Naruto simply has to overpower the structure with one of his own.
The Perfect Susano'O only shown form of offensive nature is the power of its swords. Largely known for being able to slices through mountains, These swords can be blocked with the Biju Modes Tails as they were already capable of
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. Thes same swords have also been proven to be blocked by less durable substances [
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, Naruto can lock down Perfect Susano'O and stop it from retaliating whilts Naruto continues his assault. Also note that each arm was able to hold down a Biju.Mokuton, is the other method of attacking Naruto that would be an option. Most of Madara's Mokuton is completely countered by the shockwaves that Naruto can create while using the Kyuubi's Chakra. [
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With Intel on the Jutsu, Naruto knows that approaching the Dragon is of consequence. Thus, he will take a diffrenct route of defeating the Jutsu. He may use Bijudama to destroy the Dragon as it was already destoyed by a Bijudama [
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] or simply escape it if he comes into contact with the attack. Theres also the remote chance of Madara using Tengai Shinsei. The probably of this is low as the Meteors have laready been destroyed by Mountain busting level attacks. Naruto could also tank them based on his durability feats from above, and above all else it puts Madara himself in danger.
Long Range:
This is where Madara is put at the biggest Disadvantage. At this range, Madara has to resort to a fire fight. Which he is sorely outmatched in as all he has to rely on is Susano'O sword Slashes. Which Naruto already has proven he can overpower or block.
Sealing Method:
- Naruto can seal Madara with the following method: After Madara has been caught by
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, Naruto can grab hold of him while Fukasaku and Shima can use Reverse Kuchiyose on Naruto. From there they will drop him in the toad oil which will force him to absorb Senjutsu and turn to stone. Since he's not experiencing pain, he will not break from the Genjutsu as a result of this.Another option is for Gamabunta to place Madara in his mouth and then undue his summoning.
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Nice try tho. 
